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How to control the rip volume

Hi Pros,
Can anyone suggest me any idea how to fix to a standard volume (gain) during ripping when using foobar or EAC? I need some advise on those ripped file as well, as I have inconsitent replay volume for the file that I had ripped.
TQ.

How to control the rip volume

Reply #1
Use replaygain/mp3gain/vorbisgain/wavegain etc after ripping.
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

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Use replaygain/mp3gain/vorbisgain/wavegain etc after ripping.
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Wow, thanks dude  , this is for process after ripping. Any idea what can I do this during ripping?

 

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Reply #3
The point was that you DON'T want to do it during ripping.
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

How to control the rip volume

Reply #4
For this to work during playback don't you need a player that recognises the replaygain info in the file header?

That's hoe I understand it, but I'm not 100% sure.

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Hi Pros,
Can anyone suggest me any idea how to fix to a standard volume (gain) during ripping when using foobar or EAC? I need some advise on those ripped file as well, as I have inconsitent replay volume for the file that I had ripped.
TQ.
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With EAC the only option you have is to use nomalization (which is evil, IMO). Foobar... didn't now it can rip. Does it?

Think twice before going that route. The main target for a GOOD ripping application is to make a 1:1 copy of the original, down to the bit, as far as it is possible.

Every alteration of the original should be done post-processing.  As far as gain goes this can be done in the PCM (.wav) copy of the original (using e.g. wavegain) or in the encoded signal. If we talk about MP3 this can be done storing meta-information (replaygain tags calculated e.g. using foobar2000) or, with less precision, altering every frame of the MP3 stream (in the "global gain" field, IRC) using mp3gain. In the first case it is the player responsibility to obey to such information (foobar2000 does, Winamp does only using a modified input plug-in such as Otachan's in_mpg123), in the second case every correctly  implemented player should suffice.

My philosphy, anyway is *NOT* to alter the original in any way and use replaygain information stored in the tags if and when I want.

Sergio
Sergio
M-Audio Delta AP + Revox B150 + (JBL 4301B | Sennheiser Amperior | Sennheiser HD598)

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Reply #6
I agree that every alteration should be made post RIP.  But one needs a player that will read the 'levelling' info for each track.

I have (until recently) been using Musicmatch for playback.  Musicmatch includes a 'volume-levelling' tool.  I have switched to Winamp so I can use the Audioscrobbler plugin.

MY mp3s are no longer volume 'equalised'. 

I try to encode the best mp3s I can, but vol equalisation would  be great!!



S

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Reply #7
mp3gain can directly alter the mp3, or you can use one of the mp3 input plugins that read ape2 tags.
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

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Hi Pros,
Can anyone suggest me any idea how to fix to a standard volume (gain) during ripping when using foobar or EAC? I need some advise on those ripped file as well, as I have inconsitent replay volume for the file that I had ripped.
TQ.
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With EAC the only option you have is to use nomalization (which is evil, IMO). Foobar... didn't now it can rip. Does it?
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Yup. Foobar can sorta rip. I mean, there's a CDDA input plug-in, and you can play CD tracks just about the same as any file.

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Reply #9
.9 beta rips.
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

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Hi Pros,
Can anyone suggest me any idea how to fix to a standard volume (gain) during ripping when using foobar or EAC? I need some advise on those ripped file as well, as I have inconsitent replay volume for the file that I had ripped.
TQ.
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There are tools like Wack and React, which both work with EAC and Wavegain to find the correct replaygain of the wavs, then they pass the --scale parameter to Lame or the format you choose. I never got Wack to work, and I haven't tried React (it seems more complex).

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I agree that every alteration should be made post RIP.  But one needs a player that will read the 'levelling' info for each track.

I have (until recently) been using Musicmatch for playback.  Musicmatch includes a 'volume-levelling' tool.   I have switched to Winamp so I can use the Audioscrobbler plugin.

MY mp3s are no longer volume 'equalised'. 

I try to encode the best mp3s I can, but vol equalisation would  be great!!



S
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Winamp supports replaygain via plugin.  See this thread:

[a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18530&hl=otachan]http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....8530&hl=otachan[/url]