WinDuck® for Windows, CD Ripper by Dr. Oviri |
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WinDuck® for Windows, CD Ripper by Dr. Oviri |
 Apr 10 2007, 07:57
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QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 04:23)  An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... A true programmer would always validate the INI at startup...   QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 04:23) The Registry is more secure... Impenetrable. Oh hang on, what about regedit? A text-based config is easier to read, therefore easier to edit, therefore less likely to have errors made. QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 04:23) If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? That's OK if the settings don't change, but settings are supposed to be changed.Anyway, I've made my point now. I can see that you have made your decision, and I have no place trying to change that decision. Good luck with it.
-------------------- I'm on a horse.
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Apr 10 2007, 11:48
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Group: Members (Donating) Posts: 487 Joined: 12-August 02 From: Cheltenham, UK Member No.: 3029 |
QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 03:23) QUOTE (kwanbis @ Apr 9 2007, 23:37) i think that ss is right ... what advantages does the registry offer over the INI? none ... an vice versa? you can transport your settings with you. An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... The Registry is more secure... If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? You've drunk the Kool-Aid it seems. I don't know anyone outside Microsoft who thinks a single point of failure, i.e. 1 file per registry 'hive', is a good idea. |
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Apr 10 2007, 21:15
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Group: Developer (Donating) Posts: 2332 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Argentina Member No.: 2425 |
QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 03:23) An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... The Registry is more secure... If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? first, don't take this as something bad. I think your program is exactly why i need to send to my newbies friends. No installation, and i can setup whatever i want. But the only problem is the INI thing. An INI file would make it much more flexible, and it should take you no time to move from registry to ini. By the way, what is it programmed into? -------------------- MAREO: http://www.webearce.com.ar
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Apr 10 2007, 22:14
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I'm sure Warner Brothers would appreciate you using Daffy Duck as your icon logo, especially since you are using ®egistered Trademark logo.
I would suggest his links be removed, and maybe the author loved ever-so-gently by gorillas. This post has been edited by Chastity: Apr 10 2007, 22:15 -------------------- In Case Of Bose, Break Glass
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Apr 10 2007, 22:21
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QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 14:11) StrictISO and NoBitReservoir have not seen in other CD Ripper  Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"... |
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Apr 11 2007, 02:17
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QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 10 2007, 08:57) Impenetrable. Oh hang on, what about regedit? Is always more difficult use Regedit than an INI file, not? QUOTE (Chastity @ Apr 10 2007, 23:14) I'm sure Warner Brothers would appreciate you using Daffy Duck as your icon logo, especially since you are using ®egistered Trademark logo. I would suggest his links be removed, and maybe the author loved ever-so-gently by gorillas. I will dedicate you a thought tomorrow morning while I do the love with a girlie on the rear seat of my limousine QUOTE (CiTay @ Apr 10 2007, 23:21) Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"... I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you
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Apr 11 2007, 03:30
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QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 13:17) I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you Says the man with a kindergarten looking GUI, prehistoric features & a Duck! as his logo... So far looks like the program would appeal to people wanting: +Basic design, easy to use +Light weight, can be carried on flash disk I think the Mp3 tab needs a redesign & some kind of transportable file with configuration data is also needed. |
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Apr 11 2007, 04:51
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Listen Dr. Oviri, you have the right idea with WinDuck, small, basic design, easy to use, basically everything westgroveg said, but it has it's flaws/features. I'm willing to bet most of the people on these forums already have a ripper of choice (EAC, CDeX, FB2K, WA, iTunes, maybe even WMP). What we do need though is a portable ripper that just works and fits on a floppy. If your trying to replace this community's rippers of choice, good luck and god speed.
So basically, make a separate version that uses an INI file. This post has been edited by QHOBBES 2.0: Apr 11 2007, 04:52 -------------------- "We will restore chaos"-Bush on Iraq
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Apr 11 2007, 07:22
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QUOTE (QHOBBES 2.0 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:51) Listen Dr. Oviri, you have the right idea with WinDuck, small, basic design, easy to use, basically everything westgroveg said, but it has it's flaws/features. I'm willing to bet most of the people on these forums already have a ripper of choice (EAC, CDeX, FB2K, WA, iTunes, maybe even WMP). What we do need though is a portable ripper that just works and fits on a floppy. If your trying to replace this community's rippers of choice, good luck and god speed. Very well put. WinDuck is never going to replace EAC, foobar etc., so it needs a niche. The obvious choice, given its nature, is as a portable and simple application that can be carried on a USB drive. However, for this to really work you need to be able to take your settings with you as well, and you currently can't. Maybe even a U3 version; a it gimmicky perhaps, but marketing can be gimmicky.It's a shame that Dr Ovari is not more open to suggestions from his potential user-base, as without this skill he is unlikely to ever have an actual user-base. I also agree with other posters that the removal of copyright and plagiarised iconography may be prudent. It's really just unnecessary. I'd also like to see a LAME config more in fitting with the recommendation. This post has been edited by Synthetic Soul: Apr 11 2007, 07:27 -------------------- I'm on a horse.
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Apr 11 2007, 14:35
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QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 03:17) QUOTE (CiTay @ Apr 10 2007, 23:21) Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"... I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you That coming from a guy that still uses --r3mix... |
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Apr 11 2007, 14:36
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Group: Developer (Donating) Posts: 2332 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Argentina Member No.: 2425 |
totally agree with QHOBBES 2.0.
This post has been edited by kwanbis: Apr 11 2007, 14:36 -------------------- MAREO: http://www.webearce.com.ar
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Apr 11 2007, 14:51
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Dr. Oviri, please understand that the suggestions made in this thread are constructive criticism - recommendations for things that could be improved upon to make your utility better. What you have appears to be a very nice, small, lightweight, ripper/LAME-encoder, and you should be flattered that so many people have replied and shown interest in your project. If you continue to simply refute/ignore such suggestions, people are just going to walk away, leaving you with no user base.
So far I count 3 constructive suggestions for your project: 1. remove trademarked/copyrighted images 2. store application settings in an .INI file instead of the registry (for portability) 3. modify LAME settings dialog for greater consitency with the recommended User Interface Guidelines: http://lame.sourceforge.net/lame_ui_example.php And I still haven't been able to get this to run on my WinXP machine (crashes immediately at startup). You also need to take crash/bug reports more seriously rather than replying that "it works ok on my computer." This post has been edited by Remedial Sound: Apr 11 2007, 14:52 |
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Apr 11 2007, 19:04
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QUOTE (Remedial Sound @ Apr 11 2007, 19:51) So far I count 3 constructive suggestions for your project: 1. remove trademarked/copyrighted images 2. store application settings in an .INI file instead of the registry (for portability) 3. modify LAME settings dialog for greater consitency with the recommended User Interface Guidelines: Unless the name "Winduck" is REALLY a registered trade mark, i think that ® symbol should be dropped. |
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Apr 11 2007, 20:00
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Group: Developer (Donating) Posts: 2332 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Argentina Member No.: 2425 |
QUOTE (Remedial Sound @ Apr 11 2007, 13:51) Dr. Oviri, please understand that the suggestions made in this thread are constructive criticism - recommendations for things that could be improved upon to make your utility better. Exactly. If people is requesting changes here, is because you got us interested, NOT because we think your program is bad. -------------------- MAREO: http://www.webearce.com.ar
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Apr 12 2007, 03:05
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Group: Banned Posts: 139 Joined: 21-March 07 Member No.: 41686 |
I have never discovered any problem in no operating system. All my friends use WinDuck® for ages and no one has never complained about nothing.
Does the icon with Duffy Duck give back better the play upon words, not ?  WinDuck® is a registered mark, then no problem I could also do an INI file but at present I am very engaged with another much more important project; if you do not like it use EAC, CDex, Audiograbber or that you prefer...
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Apr 12 2007, 03:24
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Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: 12-January 06 From: Cambridge, MA Member No.: 27052 |
QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 12 2007, 08:05) Does the icon with Duffy Duck give back better the play upon words, not ? So? The point is that you are using someone else's trade mark... How can you even expect ANYONE to respect YOUR ® when you don't respect others'? |
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Apr 12 2007, 03:55
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did audiograbber give you the source or something?
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Apr 12 2007, 06:20
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Group: Banned Posts: 139 Joined: 21-March 07 Member No.: 41686 |
I do not know Jackie Franck, Sergey
I love Duffy Duck... is very funny!!!
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Apr 16 2007, 03:28
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QUOTE (CiTay @ Apr 11 2007, 15:35) That coming from a guy that still uses --r3mix... If I do not remember badly the complete answer it was: R3Mix with CD Covers and Unsynced Lyrics for my player... I do not think that you are able to do it in automatic way
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Apr 16 2007, 04:02
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QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 22:20) I love Duffy Duck... is very funny!!! It's Daffy Duck. If you love him so much you should learn to spell his name right.
This post has been edited by greynol: Apr 16 2007, 04:03 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Apr 16 2007, 08:00
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This is going nowhere, fast.
-------------------- we was young an' full of beans
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Apr 16 2007, 17:24
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QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 16 2007, 05:02) QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 22:20) I love Duffy Duck... is very funny!!! It's Daffy Duck. If you love him so much you should learn to spell his name right. True... But my program use Duff Beer
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 Apr 16 2007, 17:52
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QUOTE (Remedial Sound @ Apr 6 2007, 13:50) Crashes at runtime on my WinXP machine:   Looks promising though! I have the same problem (XP Pro SP2).  And it would be better with Vorbis support. This post has been edited by dutch109: Apr 16 2007, 17:54 -------------------- Vorbis -q2/5 (Android/PC) & WavPack -hhx6
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Apr 16 2007, 18:32
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Let's recap...
>Crashes at runtime on my WinXP machine QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 6 2007, 09:24) In my PC (98/ME/NT/XP/2000) it work fine QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 8 2007, 06:43) WinDuck support only Mp3 and Wave but better than others CD Ripper >Can you elaborate?QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 8 2007, 23:31) No, read the documentation of Lame >I think it would be nice if it used an INI instead, so that the app and settings were transferrable on USB pen. QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 9 2007, 13:28) A true programmer has not used INI files for at least six years QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 14:11) StrictISO and NoBitReservoir have not seen in other CD Ripper >Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"...QUOTE (Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 18:17) I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 10 2007, 23:22) It's a shame that Dr Ovari is not more open to suggestions from his potential user-base, as without this skill he is unlikely to ever have an actual user-base.
-------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Apr 17 2007, 09:25
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Yay, another insecure ripper. EAC are fine portable for me. I hate these childish UI's!
-------------------- Can't wait for a HD-AAC encoder :P
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