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Use of multiple identical vorbis tags
pacifist
post Mar 25 2014, 21:40
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Hello. I was wondering if there was some way to use foobar2000 to have multiple identical Vorbis tags?

Well, that's not quite the best way to explain it, I think. As I understand it, you are allowed to have more than one of the same Vorbis tag. So you could have two COMMENT tags.

Foobar2000 doesn't seem to allow this, as if you try to add an extra tag of the same name, it asks if you want to overwrite the existing one - you can't have two of the same.

Purpose? Well, say for instance you have several albums by an artist, along with a greatest hits album. The greatest hits album would contain tracks which also occur on the albums. Ideally, you could tag the track so that it appears in two locations.

For example, say I have the song "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen. I would like to have the tags read something like this:

ARTIST=Queen
ALBUM=A Night At The Opera
YEAR=1975
TRACK=11
ALBUM=Greatest Hits
YEAR=1981
TRACK=1

Then, hopefully, if I filtered for "Bohemian Rhapsody" in Foobar2000, the track would appear twice, once on the album and once on the Greatest Hits. The only way to do this at present is to have two actual copies of the file on my hard drive - junction points or symbolic links wouldn't work as the files would be identical right down to the tags. This way, you'd have one copy of the audio data, but two sets of metadata so it appears twice in the media library

Does anybody know if such a thing would be possible? I don't think there's anything in the Vorbis specification which says you can't have two tags of the same description, but I don't know how this would be implemented in Foobar2000 - even if it were, how would it know which TRACK went with which ALBUM?
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BenB
post Mar 25 2014, 22:20
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Technically it could be done, but having multiple album, track number and year tags in your files would be a sorting debacle. The albums would be displayed jumbled because foobar wouldn't know which album tag corresponded to each track number tag and year tag.

Normally what most do, assuming for example the tracks were ripped from the Greatest Hits album, is something like this:

ARTIST=Queen
ALBUM=Greatest Hits
YEAR=1981
TRACK=1
ORIGINAL ALBUM=A Night At The Opera
ORIGINAL YEAR=1975

I don't know of anyone who tags an "ORIGINAL TRACK" but you could do so if you wanted to.

EDIT:

I misread the above post. Please disregard my stupidity.

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post Mar 25 2014, 22:30
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QUOTE (pacifist @ Mar 25 2014, 20:40) *
Then, hopefully, if I filtered for "Bohemian Rhapsody" in Foobar2000, the track would appear twice, once on the album and once on the Greatest Hits. The only way to do this at present is to have two actual copies of the file on my hard drive - junction points or symbolic links wouldn't work as the files would be identical right down to the tags. This way, you'd have one copy of the audio data, but two sets of metadata so it appears twice in the media library
Try m-TAGS
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post Mar 25 2014, 22:38
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EDIT:

Never mind. It could be done with m-TAGS. I'll shut up now, lol.

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post Mar 26 2014, 10:46
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When the "same" track appears on different CDs, is often sounds different, and almost always is different. Culling these duplicates is an idea that occurs to most people at some point, but IMO it's a bad idea. It adds complexity and work, only saves an irrelevant amount of space, and potentially removes the best sounding version from your library.

But it's up to you wink.gif

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post Mar 26 2014, 20:03
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OP wants multiple sets of tags for one physical file a.k.a. one version
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post Mar 27 2014, 00:05
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I read it as saying the OP needed that because they'd already culled duplicates.

I guess you could also face it when trying to create a greatest hits compilation (that you didn't actually have) from regular albums (that you did). That's just a playlist though. (might need ReplayGain to sort out level differences if the artist's career / mastering ranges across different loudness levels; might still sound hopeless if the EQ or some other issue is very different on the different original releases.)

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