New Saul Williams album sold Radiohead-style, but done RIGHT |
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New Saul Williams album sold Radiohead-style, but done RIGHT |
 Oct 25 2007, 21:48
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Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 21-July 04 Member No.: 15638  |
Trent Reznor just announced the new Saul Williams album, and it's being distributed Radiohead-style. But this time, it's done right.
From http://niggytardust.com : You will first be asked to enter your e-mail address. This is where you will receive the download link when the album becomes available on November 1. If you choose to pay for the record, your download will be available in the following formats: 192Kbps MP3 320Kbps MP3 FLAC lossless audio If you choose not to pay for the record, you will receive it in 192Kbps MP3 format. All versions include a PDF with artwork and lyrics All files are 100% DRM free, and can be played on any device. MP3s are encoded with LAME v3.97 and love. |
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Oct 25 2007, 22:52
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 Group: Super Moderator Posts: 4887 Joined: 12-August 04 From: Exeter, UK Member No.: 16217 |
$5 is a very fair price.
Not quite Radiohead-style, but I agree that it's a bloody good setup. -------------------- I'm on a horse.
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Oct 26 2007, 01:44
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 Group: Super Moderator Posts: 3267 Joined: 26-July 02 From: princegeorge.ca Member No.: 2796 |
haha niggytardust
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Oct 26 2007, 08:34
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 Group: Members (Donating) Posts: 678 Joined: 10-December 01 From: Belgium Member No.: 622 |
QUOTE (Fuchal @ Oct 25 2007, 22:48)  Trent Reznor just announced... Cool, this probably means that future NIN releases will also be available as high-quality MP3 or FLAC. Joy! -------------------- Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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Oct 26 2007, 10:46
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Interesting, interesting. It is all unfolding like Alun Parry predicted. I am sure, Trent won't be telling fans to steel the lossless version this time
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This post has been edited by beyondipod: Oct 26 2007, 17:21 -------------------- Life is short, delaying enjoyment is pointless.
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Oct 26 2007, 15:17
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just preordered, for 0,00 $.
But if I like it, I will pay, and from what I'we found on myspace, I think I'll go to pay... Well done, this is the right way to go! |
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Oct 27 2007, 00:51
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Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 46048 |
Can't complain too much about that. 192kbps LAME 3.97 MP3 for those who pay nothing for Saul's new album, and the a variety of options for those who do. Reznor "leaked" one of the tracks, titled Break, at 320kbps, and it isn't half-bad.
It's great to see FLAC becoming a viable mainstream format. EDIT: Just took a look at Break with EncSpot Pro. The file is LAME 3.97 quality "58" -- that's 320 CBR, joint stereo, lowpass at 20.5 kHz. WaveLab detects 10 clips at default detection settings, and my eyes detect a bevy of clipped samples  EDIT: Removed redundant information after post was relocated. This post has been edited by Ron Jones: Oct 27 2007, 07:14 |
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Oct 27 2007, 07:14
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Group: Super Moderator Posts: 4887 Joined: 12-August 04 From: Exeter, UK Member No.: 16217 |
QUOTE (Ron Jones @ Oct 27 2007, 00:51) Just took a look with EncSpot Pro. The file is LAME 3.97 quality 58 -- that's 320 CBR, joint stereo, lowpass at 20.5 kHz. WaveLab detects 10 clips at default detection settings I must admit that I don't fully understand what that means. Is 58 really bad?Joint stereo and a lowpass filter of 20500 is standard for 320 CBR. This post has been edited by Synthetic Soul: Oct 27 2007, 07:18 -------------------- I'm on a horse.
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Oct 27 2007, 07:31
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Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 46048 |
The "58" is the LAME quality attribute defined in the header. The specs define the formula (assuming this isn't horribly outdated). It isn't file-specific or anything; it's just based on the encoding parameters, and is, as such, some sort of generic metric.
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Nov 1 2007, 22:01
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Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 46048 |
Just wanted to update on this real quickly. The album was released late last night (after some delay), and I downloaded the FLAC copy, which weighs in at around 425 megs. Not only is the lyrics/credits PDF well done, but the ZIP also includes a FLAC Fingerprint, a cue sheet and a playlist in M3U format. The cover art is also a hefty 760x560 JPG.
I'd say the album's hit-and-miss, but this this is an excellent package, and for $5, I'd say it's a steal. This is no In Rainbows. |
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Nov 1 2007, 23:04
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Very good. If they had this for all albums, i would be buying a lot of music right now.
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Nov 2 2007, 05:23
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I got the free version, and listened to it today. Decent album, sound quality was good. Worth what I paid for it
 I'll stick to CD's, though. I can't stand the thought of paying for a download...yuck. I'll take a physical pressed CD and pre-printed artwork any day of the week--I'd rather pay $10 or $15 for that over $5 for some FLAC's. |
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Nov 2 2007, 22:12
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QUOTE (Ron Jones @ Nov 1 2007, 22:01) Just wanted to update on this real quickly. The album was released late last night (after some delay), and I downloaded the FLAC copy, which weighs in at around 425 megs. Not only is the lyrics/credits PDF well done, but the ZIP also includes a FLAC Fingerprint, a cue sheet and a playlist in M3U format. The cover art is also a hefty 760x560 JPG. I'd say the album's hit-and-miss, but this this is an excellent package, and for $5, I'd say it's a steal. This is no In Rainbows. This is an excellent package!  And guaranteed error-free unlike Audio CDs, hushypushy... ...unless they actually ripped it from a CD!  I'm currently downloading the free version, and I have my doubts that I will like it as I'm not into Hip-Hop at all, although he seems to be one of the better (serious) artists in this genre (despite the quirky Ziggy Stardust reference). This post has been edited by Fandango: Nov 2 2007, 22:15 |
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Nov 5 2007, 01:39
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Niggy Tardust. Clever. I might have to check this out.
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Dec 21 2007, 20:56
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First post, and have to say good on Trent for getting it right compared to Radiohead!
$5 for the FLAC files was brilliant...I look forward to the NIN releases following this same format. |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:39
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FLAC Developer Group: Developer Posts: 1526 Joined: 27-February 02 Member No.: 1408 |
just saw a breakdown of the sales numbers, thought it might be interesting to some:
QUOTE As of 1/2/08, 154,449 people chose to download Saul's new record. 28,322 of those people chose to pay $5 for it, meaning: 18.3% chose to pay. Of those paying, 3220 chose 192kbps MP3 19,764 chose 320kbps MP3 5338 chose FLAC lots more info in the full post. a couple more interviews: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9847788-7.html http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9848536-7.html |
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