DVD Concert Video - Rip Audio?, Can I rip only the audio from DVD? Options

[EagerAqua]

Hi there,

I have tried a search but due to my lack of experience in this area, I am not 100% sure what I am looking for.

I have Pearl Jam's Touring Band concert DVD and would love to be able to rip just the audio from it and put it on my Nomad Jukebox. Is there a way to do this? If so, how?

Your help will be greatly appreciated,

Jeremy

[kurtnoise]

Yes, of course .....http://www.dvddecrypter.com

Choose "IFO Mode" in settings, in "Stream Processing" check your audio stream and uncheck the others. Don't forget to Demux your stream.

This post has been edited by kurtnoise: Nov 12 2003, 19:00

[caffreys]

Yes I would use DVDDecryptor and choose PCM files if they are available and after demuxing you will end up with a collection of 48kHz WAV files which you may need to resample to 44kHz. If you don't see any PCM files try demuxing 2-channel AC3 files, or failing that, 6-channel AC3 files. Either way I use a utility called HeadAC3he which assists in the resampling and conversion to MP3 format.

This works fine for me

[dreamliner77]

BeSweet is nice too.

[JeanLuc]

I use Smartripper ... works perfect ... you can either use "Direct Demux" or use BeSweet to convert the AC3 into six mono waves that can be downmixed to 2-Channel PCM afterwards according to your preferences

[NeoRenegade]

I use a combination of SmartRipper, DVD2AVI, AZID, Naoki's SSRC and WaveGain.

(For great justice.)

I can give you sample commandlines, etc. if you're interested

[EagerAqua]

Thanks for the advice everyone....I am going to try and absorb all the information I can on the programs listed and give it a try.

Thanks for the help,

Jeremy

[EagerAqua]

Sorry about another post here...meant to put it in my previous on. I found a guide on the web for this: http://www.glump.net/content/audio_dvd_rip/guide.htm. Any thoughts?

Jeremy

[mobius]

DVDdecrypter will rip the vob into one file. Then BeSweet does all the rest.

CODE

"C:\progz\BeSweetv1.4\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "m:\video_shit\pearljamz\VTS_01_1.vob" -output "m:\video_shit\pearljamz\VTS_01_1.mp3" -substream 0x80 -logfile "C:\progz\BeSweet GUI v0.6 b83\BeSweet.log" ) -azid( -c normal -L -3db ) -lame( -p --alt-preset standard )

You may want a -ssrc( --rate 44100 --normalize ) in there if your portable needs it. The normalize is also up to you.

Make sure you have:

http://dspguru.notrace.dk/VOBInput.zip

Wherever besweet lives.

Have fun,


mobius

This post has been edited by mobius: Nov 13 2003, 05:37

[Latexxx]

Having everything as one big file isn't ideal. I ripped Rammstein's Live aus Berlin with the following procedure(if I can remember correctly).
1. Dvddecrypter: File splitting: by cell Id, Stream processing: demux lpcm audio
2. mppenc + replaygain
3. Tagging using foobar2000

This post has been edited by Latexxx: Nov 13 2003, 17:14

[Loke]

I have my doubts if besweet is a good ac3-decoder. Its the same as with mp3, you have good decoders and bad ones.
Personally I would go for using smartripper or vstrip, both can rip out just the ac3-file or rip it to a vob, if i remember correctly. After I would use graphedit to extract the ac3-file, and decode it directly to a wav stereo file. This way I use the ac3decoding filter that comes with windvd-player.

[dreamliner77]

Its the same as with mp3, you have good decoders and bad ones

It's pretty much been proven thru abx results that there is no "real" discernable difference between mp3 decoders.

Also, with a concert dvd, chances are you won't have to deal with an ac3 stream anyway. Generally a concert dvd will always have a 2 channel stereo track.

[Latexxx]

I have my doubts if besweet is a good ac3-decoder. Its the same as with mp3, you have good decoders and bad ones.
Personally I would go for using smartripper or vstrip, both can rip out just the ac3-file or rip it to a vob, if i remember correctly. After I would use graphedit to extract the ac3-file, and decode it directly to a wav stereo file. This way I use the ac3decoding filter that comes with windvd-player.

Those direct show filters always apply some dynamic range compression!

[mobius]

I have my doubts if besweet is a good ac3-decoder. Its the same as with mp3, you have good decoders and bad ones.
Personally I would go for using smartripper or vstrip, both can rip out just the ac3-file or rip it to a vob, if i remember correctly. After I would use graphedit to extract the ac3-file, and decode it directly to a wav stereo file. This way I use the ac3decoding filter that comes with windvd-player.

BeSweet isn't an AC3 decoder. It calls azid.dll, which decodes AC3 as well as any AFAIK. Also, your comment about mp3 decoders is incorrect.

Also, with a concert dvd, chances are you won't have to deal with an ac3 stream anyway. Generally a concert dvd will always have a 2 channel stereo track.

Oh yeah. The led zepp royal albert hall disc I did recently had PCM audio instead of crappy AC3. That will make your job easier. Just ask DVDdecryter to demux it for you.


mobius

[xmixahlx]

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....49&hl=transcode

[Loke]

It's pretty much been proven thru abx results that there is no "real" discernable difference between mp3 decoders.

I disagree, there has been tests SHOWING that there are differences, some of the mp3 decodes sounds horrible, and I can hear it too. Take winamp 2.xx, if you look at the update-list you find that they changed the default-decoder in version around 2.6x cause the old sounded so crappy.
There also has been discussions on what decoder to use on this board before.

BeSweet isn't an AC3 decoder. It calls azid.dll

yeah, I know that, I just didnt remember what dec it calls, its long since ive been using it.

Also, your comment about mp3 decoders is incorrect.

no way, its right. There are big differences

[Loke]

Its old but here is an test:
mp3 decoder test

[dreamliner77]

Alright, let me say "recent" decoders.


Secondly, That test says nothing about how they sound. ABX results.

[kl33per]

There is little if any difference between the major MP3 decoders. Main differences would be in post-processing (i.e. dithering) and may be error handling. However, this topic is not about MP3 decoding.

To rip & decode AC3 tracks from a VOB file I would also use DVDDecrypter and BeSweet. To make it easy, I would also use BeSweet GUI for the uninitiated. You should probably use Normalization and Dynamic Range Compression but this is up to you.

DVDDecrypter
BeSweet

[sh0dan]

I have my doubts if besweet is a good ac3-decoder.

(I just skipped your other posts, as you provide nothing new to either of them).

You don't give ANY proof, or anything to back up this statement. You are GUESSING that BeSweet is worse.

Besweet has float precision sample handling, and an AC3 -> SSRC -> MP3 conversion is done in pure float, and the result is at no point converted to 16bit. Using your Graphedit method, you will in most cases give you a 16 bit PCM. So based on that I am GUESSING that your method sound worse than BeSweet. (Even though it is a qualified guess).

In reality, keeping the unmodified sound of the DVD is of course always preferable, if it is possible.

[andrew]

Yes, of course .....http://www.dvddecrypter.com

Choose "IFO Mode" in settings, in "Stream Processing" check your audio stream and uncheck the others. Don't forget to Demux your stream. 

I tried using your method and seems like the files that are RIP out is in VOB format. I thought that the ripped data will be in WAV format such that I burn use NERO to burn it? Is it ok to burn it @ 48khz on a cd?

Kindly advice!

[Audible!]

Is it ok to burn it @ 48khz on a cd?

No.
CD players are strictly 16/44.1, the audio must be resampled before you burn to disc.

Here is another tutorial on how to extract and downmix an AC3 from a DVD to red book stereo or mp3.

[andrew]

Is it ok to burn it @ 48khz on a cd?

No.
CD players are strictly 16/44.1, the audio must be resampled before you burn to disc.

Here is another tutorial on how to extract and downmix an AC3 from a DVD to red book stereo or mp3.

I tried using this too but the DEMUX to extra file is greyed out. so IF I'm able to rip it to VOB file to my HDD, is this the right step then? thanks!