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sample for vorbis aoTuV, ...and for other lossy encoders |
Jun 1 2004, 06:50
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CODE Sample name: Pierres réfléchies [reflected stones] Artist name: Pierre Henry Composition: Pierres réfléchies [34 min 53 sec] CD: MIX Pierre Henry 04.1 Label: Philips Reference: 472202-2 CODE Lossless format: flac 1.10 Size: 800 kb Length: 7 seconds CODE Lossy encoder tested: • vorbis aoTuV beta 2, at: -q6 (233 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [range: 0.0 – 7.0] -q7 (330 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [range: 3.0 – 7.0] -q8 (365 kbps): ABX = 17/20 [range: 1.0 – 4.0] [failed at –q9] • vorbis 1.01+GT3b2, at: -q6 (308 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [range: 0.0 – 7.0] -q7 (353 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [range: 0.0 – 7.0] -q8 (461 kbps): ABX = 13/16 [range: 1.0 – 3.0] [failed at –q9] Problem description: micro-attacks are blured, and sharpness is smoothened by an extra-noise. CODE • musepack 1.14 with --xlevel, at: --quality 5 (196 kbps): ABX = 11/12 [full range] --quality 6 (227 kbps): ABX = 14/16 [full range] --quality 7 (255 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [full range] --quality 8 (284 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [1.2 – 3.0] --quality 9 (312 kbps): ABX = 8/8 [1.2 – 3.0] [didn’t test above] Problem description: from –q5 to –q7 [include] micro-attacks are distorted. Reminds me a typical artifact I heard many times with similar signal and mpc encoding [creaking.wav; jump.wav; tosca.wav]: something like “boiling oil”... At –q8 and –q9, this artifact disapeared, but a lack of sharpness and a slight noise was audible, like vorbis aoTuV/GT3. Better ABX score at higher bitrate are due to a stronger concentration, not really needed with –standard/--extreme presets, obviously worse. ____ Testing conditions: - Beyerdynamic DT-531 headphone - Terratec DMX6fire soundcard - Onkyo R-A5 tuner/amplifier - foobar2000 0.82: kernel streaming • 32 fixed bit output without dithering - foo_abx v1.2 • no replaygain ____ Extra-comments: - I’ve began with aoTuV testing, and I resume the test 24 hours after with GT3 then musepack for comparison. - bitrate deviation is impressive with vorbis (especially Garf Tuning), but is controlled with musepack. MPC –q9 have the same bitrate on this short sample than vorbis 1.01+GT3b2 –q6. - ABX log files are included in the .zip archive. |
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Jun 1 2004, 07:52
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The bitrate jump from q 6 to q 7 for aoTuV b2 is particularly surprising (233 -> 330 kbps).
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Jun 1 2004, 16:08
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My results:
mpc q5 1.14 foo_abx v1.2 report foobar2000 v0.8.2 2004/06/01 18:50:40 File A: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.flac File B: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.mpc 18:50:41 : Test started. 18:51:39 : 01/01 50.0% 18:52:02 : 02/02 25.0% 19:12:50 : 03/03 12.5% 19:13:33 : 04/04 6.3% 19:20:05 : 05/05 3.1% 19:20:25 : 06/06 1.6% 19:21:44 : 07/07 0.8% 19:22:48 : 08/08 0.4% 19:23:39 : 09/09 0.2% 19:23:46 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 9/9 (0.2%) mpc q5 1.15r - foo_abx v1.2 report foobar2000 v0.8.2 2004/06/01 19:25:54 File A: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.flac File B: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.mpc 19:25:55 : Test started. 19:26:23 : 01/01 50.0% 19:26:41 : 02/02 25.0% 19:26:48 : 03/03 12.5% 19:27:58 : 04/04 6.3% 19:28:23 : 05/05 3.1% 19:28:47 : 06/06 1.6% 19:29:14 : 07/07 0.8% 19:29:55 : 08/08 0.4% 19:29:59 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 8/8 (0.4%) AoTuv q6 - 1st attempt foo_abx v1.2 report foobar2000 v0.8.2 2004/06/01 20:05:03 File A: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.flac File B: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.ogg 20:05:04 : Test started. 20:07:52 : 01/01 50.0% 20:09:32 : 01/02 75.0% 20:10:40 : 01/03 87.5% 20:12:08 : 01/04 93.8% 20:14:32 : 02/05 81.3% 20:14:43 : 03/06 65.6% 20:16:19 : 03/07 77.3% 20:17:21 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 3/7 (77.3%) another attempt AoTuv- foo_abx v1.2 report foobar2000 v0.8.2 2004/06/01 20:18:29 File A: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.flac File B: file://H:\temp\abx tests\HENRY - Pierres Réfléchies#4.shorter.ogg 20:18:30 : Test started. 20:18:41 : 00/01 100.0% 21:06:49 : Trial reset. 21:07:14 : 01/01 50.0% 21:07:41 : 02/02 25.0% 00:57:18 : 03/03 12.5% 00:58:05 : 04/04 6.3% 01:02:57 : 05/05 3.1% 01:04:21 : 06/06 1.6% 01:06:01 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 6/7 (6.3%) mpc has an obvious artifact. vorbis needed more attention, but it is also muffled in a way. |
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