.Ogg Vorbis aotuv, Question for Aoyumi |
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.Ogg Vorbis aotuv, Question for Aoyumi |
 Feb 25 2011, 12:33
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Just tried to encode a 5.1 file (6 channels in F2K) [Dances With Wolves Speech Sample (DTS Master) 48Khz], -q4 I get 331Kbps (128x5/2=320Kbps expected) & quality seems ok (Didn't ABX)
So personnaly I cannot reproduce the bug (Doesn't mean there isn't any). Edit: I used john33's oggenc2 like capma, not venc like alter4. This post has been edited by sauvage78: Feb 25 2011, 12:46 -------------------- CDImage+CUE
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Feb 25 2011, 12:56
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Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-July 09 From: Brussels Member No.: 71300 |
I don't know if the BS (Block-Switching) issue has been addressed in this latest Beta v601 release, but I can still easily ABX the Autechre killer sample.
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Feb 25 2011, 13:03
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Group: Members Posts: 677 Joined: 4-May 08 Member No.: 53282 |
The fact that such a bad sample for vorbis is still easyly ABXable is not really a surprise IMHO (unless you expect miracles like aotuv b2 at each aotuv release), the real question is more: is there any improvement even if still ABXable.
This post has been edited by sauvage78: Feb 25 2011, 13:06 -------------------- CDImage+CUE
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Feb 25 2011, 13:17
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 Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 22-December 09 From: nicyoume Member No.: 76223 |
QUOTE (john33 @ Feb 25 2011, 20:17)  QUOTE (Nowings69 @ Feb 25 2011, 09:14) @john33 Could you change your oggenc2's writing library in OGG COMMENT？ oggenc2(yours) AO; aoTuV [20110223] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis) venc AO; aoTuV [20110223] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis) I wanna diplay your oggenc2 for aotuv like this  Are you saying that you want the 'AO: ' removed from the front of the Vendor String? If so, I'm not sure that I should considering Aoyumi created the modified libraries and that is his chosen Vendor String. To change it might suggest that I am using a different version of the libraries. I wish to read from OGG COMMENT as TAG in writing library by Encoder at (or)Foobar Im not talking bout BSD or ect Well.i gave up it Thanks jonn33 |
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Feb 25 2011, 13:22
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Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-July 09 From: Brussels Member No.: 71300 |
@sauvage78
Yes you're right this new release is definately better. I ABXed the following samples and could only ABX Autechre: 01- DCT Killer Samples (Lossless)\01- Artefact+Context\01- Abfahrt Hinwil (Artefact+Context) Lossless.flac 01- DCT Killer Samples (Lossless)\01- Artefact+Context\02- Autechre (Artefact+Context) Lossless.flac 01- DCT Killer Samples (Lossless)\01- Artefact+Context\03- Castanets (Artefact+Context) Lossless.flac 01- DCT Killer Samples (Lossless)\01- Artefact+Context\04- Harlem (Artefact+Context) Lossless.flac 01- DCT Killer Samples (Lossless)\01- Artefact+Context\05- Kraftwerk (Artefact+Context) Lossless.flac 01- DCT Killer Samples (Lossless)\01- Artefact+Context\06- Rush (Artefact+Context) Lossless.flac 01___Pet_Shop_Boys___In_The_Night___cutted.flac bibilolo.flac emese.flac Linchpin__Edit_.flac Replica._Lossy.flac So thanks Aoyumi for the splendid work. |
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Feb 25 2011, 14:15
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Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 20-June 06 Member No.: 32044 |
@OggY68
Did the bitrate increase a lot for these samples (compared to previous aoTuV) ? -------------------- Vorbis -q2/5 (Android/PC) & WavPack -hhx6
http://playnoise.com/ |
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Feb 25 2011, 14:28
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Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-July 09 From: Brussels Member No.: 71300 |
QUOTE (dutch109 @ Feb 25 2011, 14:15) @OggY68 Did the bitrate increase a lot for these samples (compared to previous aoTuV) ? I only tested them at default -q3 quallity setting. |
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Feb 25 2011, 16:50
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Other killer samples for vorbis are badvilbel and the_product.
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Feb 26 2011, 00:53
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 Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Belarus, Vitebsk Member No.: 16992 |
Hi ALL.
I am Back with 6ch encoding problems. The problem is sample(or maybe format) specific. There is a one of problematic 6ch file. Download sample and try to encode using aotuv beta6.01 to catch the bug. Thx and hope somebody helps to fix. P.S. HA! looks I find the problem! aotuv can't properly encode 44100 rate 6ch files, but can 48000 rate! Please confirm! This post has been edited by alter4: Feb 26 2011, 01:10 |
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Feb 26 2011, 10:55
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 Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Republic of Srps Member No.: 39225 |
Confirmed. Resampled file (to 48000) encodes correctly.
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Feb 26 2011, 12:21
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Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Belarus, Vitebsk Member No.: 16992 |
It is clear now. The question is closed, new bug report is open.
P.S. But the good news are 32000hz 6ch files convert properly as well, so I think it something like "slip of the pen" in aotuv code, and Aoyumi (if hi has free time and good opportunity  ) can easily fix it.
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Feb 27 2011, 14:55
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Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Belarus, Vitebsk Member No.: 16992 |
QUOTE aoTuV Beta6.02 [beta6.01 >> beta6.02] (2011/02/27) # In the specific pattern (different from beta6.01), the bug that caused overflow was fixed. New aotuv version is out, but the bug with 6ch files is still there. QUOTE C:\unknown>venc.exe -q4 6ch.wav aoTuV Beta 6.02 - OggVorbis Encoder © 2003-2011 Aoyumi Output file : "6ch.ogg" Stream info.: 6ch/44.1kHz/16bit(int) -> 6ch/44.1kHz/32bit(float) Quality 4 (nominal bitrate : 324kbps) Processing...Done. [Report of the encoded file] play time : 17.842 sec. encode time : 1.968 sec. (x9.066) stream bitrate : 94.08 kbps bit reduction : 1 / 45 Thx for your work Aoyumi. This post has been edited by alter4: Feb 27 2011, 15:03 |
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Feb 28 2011, 16:33
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 Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 14-January 04 From: Kanto, Japan Member No.: 11215 |
About 5.1ch
I recognize the problem. There are some causes, and time is necessary in investigation and a revision. Sorry. Aoyumi |
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Feb 28 2011, 16:39
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 xcLame and OggDropXPd Developer Group: Developer Posts: 3708 Joined: 30-September 01 From: Bracknell, UK Member No.: 111 |
aoTuVb6.02 compiles are now at Rarewares.
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---------------------------------------------------------------- My compiles and utilities are at http://www.rarewares.org/ |
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Feb 28 2011, 18:40
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Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Belarus, Vitebsk Member No.: 16992 |
QUOTE (Aoyumi @ Feb 28 2011, 17:33) About 5.1ch I recognize the problem. There are some causes, and time is necessary in investigation and a revision. Sorry. Aoyumi OK. I think this bug is not critical, not all guys rip 6ch music from movies to ogg:) But just for sure Aoyumi could I ask you? Will you profile fix ...as ready... or postpone the fix for a long term? Sorry again if you feel me tactless. This post has been edited by alter4: Feb 28 2011, 18:43 |
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Mar 1 2011, 13:32
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Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 14-January 04 From: Kanto, Japan Member No.: 11215 |
QUOTE (alter4 @ Mar 1 2011, 02:40) QUOTE (Aoyumi @ Feb 28 2011, 17:33) About 5.1ch I recognize the problem. There are some causes, and time is necessary in investigation and a revision. Sorry. Aoyumi OK. I think this bug is not critical, not all guys rip 6ch music from movies to ogg:) But just for sure Aoyumi could I ask you? Will you profile fix ...as ready... or postpone the fix for a long term? Sorry again if you feel me tactless. I want to release fixed version in the time early as possible. But I cannot yet declare it about the time... |
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Mar 2 2011, 09:07
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Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 11-March 07 From: cleveland,ohio Member No.: 41371 |
I dont rip in 6ch but have been a big fan of youre work Aoyumi cant wait to try the new version out.
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Mar 2 2011, 11:50
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Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 12-May 02 Member No.: 2026 |
Thank you very much Aoyumi!
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Mar 6 2011, 11:38
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Group: Developer Posts: 2983 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 49183 |
lead_voice sample:
1 - original 2 - encoded with aotuv b6.02 -q4 3 - resampled to 88kHz and encoded 4 - resampled to 96kHz and encoded 
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Mar 6 2011, 21:23
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 Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 31-March 08 From: Germany Member No.: 52456 |
QUOTE (lvqcl @ Mar 6 2011, 12:38) 1 - original Hello lvqcl,2 - encoded with aotuv b6.02 -q4 3 - resampled to 88kHz and encoded 4 - resampled to 96kHz and encoded thank you for your tests. I think, number 2 is OK, and number 3 is not OK. What is with number 4? Is it OK? There is some schlieren between the lines. I think, the original is 44,1kHz. Have you tested 48kHz, too? This is the common sample rate for digital TV (DVB). Best regards akapuma |
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Mar 6 2011, 21:51
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Group: Developer Posts: 2983 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 49183 |
I cannot see or hear problems with this sample resampled to 48kHz.
QUOTE What is with number 4? Is it OK? Numbers 3 and 4 aren't not OK IMHO (ABXed 8/8). |
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Mar 7 2011, 15:48
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Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 14-January 04 From: Kanto, Japan Member No.: 11215 |
QUOTE (lvqcl @ Mar 6 2011, 19:38) lead_voice sample: 1 - original 2 - encoded with aotuv b6.02 -q4 3 - resampled to 88kHz and encoded 4 - resampled to 96kHz and encoded Thank you for a report. If the problem that you recognize produces even "libvorbis 1.3.2", I understand the problem. I intend to try the improvement of the problem in the future. Aoyumi |
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Mar 7 2011, 16:05
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Group: Developer Posts: 2983 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 49183 |
QUOTE (Aoyumi @ Mar 7 2011, 17:48) If the problem that you recognize produces even "libvorbis 1.3.2", I understand the problem. I intend to try the improvement of the problem in the future. Oops. Sorry that I didn't this before. Yes, libvorbis 1.3.2 also shows similar problems with 88 and 96kHz, but in other places of the track. This post has been edited by lvqcl: Mar 7 2011, 16:06 |
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Mar 17 2011, 16:53
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Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 31-March 08 From: Germany Member No.: 52456 |
Hello Aoyumi,
is everything OK with you? In your user profile is written, that you are living in Kanto. And I saw, that Kanto is near Fukushima. My best wishes to you, to your family and the whole Japanese nation. Best regards akapuma |
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Mar 17 2011, 19:01
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These types of messages should be done via PM, please read TOS #5 if you have any questions.
That said, my heart goes out to all those affected and to be affected by the catastrophe in Japan. This post has been edited by greynol: Mar 17 2011, 19:03 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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