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Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Thank you all for the valuable information that this forum provides. I have searched and read through a lot of messages here in the forums.. I might have missed it, but if someone could help me figure out what to do about my little problem, I would very much appreciate it.

I am ripping CDs. I need to ultimately get them to a RIFF-MP2 format. Here's the problem. All of the tagging software, CD Extraction programs, etc. all do their job... to a point. None of them extract the Artist and Title Information into the RIFF header. Even when extracting to uncompressed WAVE format.  Does anyone know of software that will do this? It would be a real pain to have to rip, then go in with a program like CoolEdit in order to tag the WAVE files. (I have been using the QDesign MPEG ACM Encoder, btw.)

Also, I already have a bunch of CDs ripped to MP3 format, but would like to convert them to RIFF-MP2 leaving the ID3 tags intact. This doesn't happen with any conversion software I've tried... it kills the tags completely, leaving me to have to re-tag the file.

I've tried, EAC, CDex, InTOO CD Ripper, AudioGrabber, CD-DA Extractor, and some other extractors.
I have tried for audio converters: Riverpast Audio Converter Pro, and several utlilities out there to "convert audio formats).
For taggers, I've tried so many I forgot all of the ones I have tried.. but you name it, i've probably tried it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
djmasa

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #1 –
You cannot tag a wav file.

You would need to use a program like EAC and have it rip to wave and then open an external compressor program.  You can then either add a commandline to have the external program add tags or select the option that allows EAC to add tags to the finished product.

No idea about RIFF though.  Never tried using it.
JXL

Edit:  Also, transcoding from a lossy mp3 format to a lossless format is somewhat pointless.  The end result would be a large file size that will not be as good as the compress lossy format and no where near as good as the original source file.

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #2 –
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Edit: Also, transcoding from a lossy mp3 format to a lossless format is somewhat pointless. The end result would be a large file size that will not be as good as the compress lossy format and no where near as good as the original source file.


surely the lossless file would be of identical quality to the file from which is it transcoded, otherwise it wouldn't be lossless?

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #3 –
it will be as good as the lossy file from which it was made, but only that good. NOT as good as the original wav.

also, while only sounding as good as the lossy file, it will be much larger.

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #4 –
I had understood that there is some quality loss when transcoding from a lossy format back to a lossless format.

That wasn't really the main point I was trying to get at anyways.  The main point is that its pointless to transcode a lossy format to a lossless format.

Thx for the corrections though.
JXL

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #5 –
I understand the implications of going from MP3 to WAVE or MP3 to RIFF-MP2, and what the difference is between lossy, lossless, what may happen to sound quality, etc. I just don't want to have to re-rip over 2,000 CDs to get it into the format I need for maybe a little sound degragation. I'm not using this for home theater, so I don't need it to be 100% everything. I am just trying to accomplish the task I need to do.

As for Tagging a WAVE file.. That's not true. You CAN 'TAG' a wave file, with a RIFF INFO CHUNK That could include the Artist, Title, Album, etc. Whether it be in with the RIFF headers, or within and ID3 Chunk, it IS possible to do this. I'm looking for a program that will. that's all.



Thanks,
djmasa

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #6 –
Quote from: djmasa on
As for Tagging a WAVE file.. That's not true. You CAN 'TAG' a wave file, with a RIFF INFO CHUNK That could include the Artist, Title, Album, etc. Whether it be in with the RIFF headers, or within and ID3 Chunk, it IS possible to do this. I'm looking for a program that will. that's all.


Try DBPowerAmp http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #7 –
We support tagging of waves (to the correct standard) in the new R12 alpha, in the beta section of the forum. It is an early release and only mp3 / wave reading & writing are supported, CD ripping is due in 1-2 months.

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #8 –
Quote from: spoon on
We support tagging of waves (to the correct standard) in the new R12 alpha, in the beta section of the forum. It is an early release and only mp3 / wave reading & writing are supported, CD ripping is due in 1-2 months.


I had downlaoded the public version, and it didn't do what I wanted exactly. I will definately look into this. Is beta versions open for people to download? Being pre-release software, i'm a little cautious, but i've more than backed up my data.



thanks,
djmasa.

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #9 –
There's a container for WAVs called BWF that support metadata. Good luck finding support for it though.

Ripping CDs to uncompressed WAVE Format

Reply #10 –
>Is beta versions open for people to download? 

It is open for anyone.