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New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Ok, EAR is a plugin for winamp that shows id3 information and file info in the minibrowser.
What's especially exiting (at least for me it is) is the ability to read from external tag-files. Read about it in the "Fixes/New features" section.


Winamp has since a couple of version been able to show both ID3v1/ID3v2 tag information and MPEG properties, if you look at the properties page for a file.
EAR extends this information presentation. When you have EAR enabled, and the Minibrowser visible, EAR will render a document showing you almost all the information from these tags.


But, this is not all EAR will do for you. EAR has a template engine which let you define templates showing EXACTLY the information from the tags, EXACTLY in the way you prefer.

EAR is also prepared for other languages than English.
EAR comes with 8 default languages, and more can and will be done.
The most templates are language independant, so that when switching language in EAR,
the template will be rerendered in the new language.

You can design new templates that present data in any layout that you prefer, easily.
Please look at the screenshots to see examples of how EAR can look.


To create and manage ID3v1 and v2.x tags, we recommend you to use Helium², which can be downloaded at:

http://www.helium2.com



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This release contains important bugfixes, a more optimized document rendering engine,
cool new features, more default languages and templates.


[span style='font-size:18']Fixes/New features[/span]



    Personally I would like to know what people think about the external tags feature.


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    edit (citay) : color codes removed. using a color other than black in news posts isn't appropriate, since it draws the attention of the users to that single post.


    edit2 (jan): color codes were there to seperate my comments from the new.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #1
chant with me: use Vorbis! use Vorbis!
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #2
Jansemanden,

Will you STFU? It's bad enough that you keep plugging the damn Helium bloatware crap on r3mix, and now on hydrogenaudio? No one will use the crap and ID3V2 with MPC. God damn it. :mad:

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #3
I agree with whatever Wish said.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #4
EAR is not helium2.

Ear is totally free.

if you don't use id3v2 with mpc you'll have no tags. No alternative. When there is I'm certain helium2 and EAR will support it.


Ogg support is planned in helium2 and EAR.


Helium2 is not bloatware - it's the best tagger around.



Regards,
Jan.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #5
Quote
Originally posted by Jansemanden
if you don't use id3v2 with mpc you'll have no tags. No alternative.
we can still use old good id3v1, which doesn't have id3v2-ish #@! software compatibility problems.
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #6
No tags? What do you call ID3V1.1 then? Anyway, keep using that braindead standard that no one in their right mind would even support.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #7
Quote
Originally posted by Jansemanden
if you don't use id3v2 with mpc you'll have no tags. No alternative.


Huh? MPC uses id3v1.1. That was the alternative chosen to id3v2 currently. SV8 will have its own taggin scheme. You act like it's a cardinal sin not to have id3v2. Just because your beloved bloatware is keen on id3v2 doesn't mean any format that doesn't use it is utter crap. I highly doubt Monty is going to choose id3v2 for vorbis as it will just lead to problems down the road with VBR/ABR and I'm SURE bitrate peeling.

You seriously need to get a grip on things, not to mention stop preaching about helium2 constantly.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #8
We also had bows and arrows so why invent more?
It's so f***** complicated to live today.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #9
There's not nearly enough fields in id3v1 for me.
Therefore id3v2.
I'm not praising id3v2 I'm praising EAR and Helium2.
When there's an alternative to id3v2 I'll use that.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #10
When MPC SV8 with custom tagging is available, I wanna see you use ID3V2 with it. Try sharing those files with everyone else that doesn't use the programs you keep shamelessly plugging incessantly.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #11
As I said when mpc get's it's own tagging system I'll use that.
Untill id3v2 is only choice.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #12
Look at your own post:

To create and manage ID3v1 and v2.x tags, we recommend you to use Helium², which can be downloaded at: http://www.helium2.com

If thats not another shameless plug..... UGH. :mad:

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #13
why invent more, eh ? id3v2 format feels like it was invented in the stone age. they just have to keep updating it (and messing up compatibility) because they need to change specs every time they add new fields. stupid, isn't it ?
chant with me: use Vorbis ! use Vorbis !
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

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Reply #14
It's was taken from the web site.
Of course the author recomments the program he has written and know works.

And it's the only program doing external tags.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #15
When ogg has the quality off mpc I'll change.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #16
or better - go use winamp3's database stuff. no more need to modify files, and it doesn't make stupid external tag files. blah.
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #17
Quote
Originally posted by Jansemanden
There's not nearly enough fields in id3v1 for me.
Therefore id3v2.
I'm not praising id3v2 I'm praising EAR and Helium2.
When there's an alternative to id3v2 I'll use that.


I look at id3v1.1 and see:

Track#
Title
Artist
Album
Year
Genre
Comments

What the heck else would you need? An biography of the artist?

Anyway, you can praise Helium2, but you act like it's the crowning-jewel of all software. Do you get paid by the author?

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #18
Quote
Anyway, you can praise Helium2, but you act like it's the crowning-jewel of all software. Do you get paid by the author?


No I don't!
I just think it's a great prog. Have you guys even tried it before saying it's crap?


Is Dibrom paid my LAME developers?
And damn him for talking about it when his working on it!!


What I want more - this is how my tags look:

Band/Orchestra
Title
Composer
Album
Media
Track
CD
Recording year
Recording year, month/date
Release year
Release year, month/date
Musician credits list
Production credits list
Encoded date
Tagged, date
Cover
comment
lyrics

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #19
again: Winamp3 will support all that crap in its database, without making mess in your files / on your hdd. yes, i AM paid by AOL.
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #20
Can you move you files around then without destroying your database?
Can you use other databases?
can you mass tag?
Can you get it shown nice in a list?
Is it still there if you use your files on another computer?
Can you share your files?



A mess my ass. Can you handle a subdir with 20 files?

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #21
It may not be a direct plug, but since you still need Helium2 to be used together with this thing, it's an indirect plug. Aren't you not even sick constantly repeating the same thing over and over again? Helium this, Helium that, Use Helium..... :mad:

In fact, it's starting to sound like a broken record......

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #22
Why take up all that data....do you have anyone that'd actually read that?

Let's take say... Dave Matthews - Crash - #41

06
#41
Dave Matthews Band
Crash
1996
Soft Rock
Encoded with Lame 3.90


There isn't anything else needed and it's just bloat to put anything else. You don't even KNOW the month/date of creation on this album (nor do I) and it would require probably a good deal of research to find out. I'm willing to bet you don't fill that part of your "standard form" very often. Your tagging scheme is prohibitively wasteful....in fact it's downright abhorred.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #23
a mess in your id3v2-tagged ass. you can't do most of that yet because Winamp3 is a DEVELOPER'S BETA now, and i'm talking about features coming in a final version. the engine is already capable of that; you can already mass-tag entries in database; and you will be able to write file tags the same way in final version.
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

New EAR released (mostread for id3v2 users)

Reply #24
Aren't you sick of saying id3v2 sucks?
And that mpc and ogg rulez or whatever you like.

If ppl ask for a prog. to tag their files then of course I'll tell them about helium2 as I think it's the best.


Only one encoder makes mpc suck or what?


And yes Filburt: that is the tags I've put in all my files. And yes it takes some research and yes I like to have the info.