2007 ripping/encoding general poll |
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2007 ripping/encoding general poll |
 Jan 3 2007, 11:42
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Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Germany Member No.: 12686  |
one more vote for monkey's
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Jan 3 2007, 16:05
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 Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 22-October 04 From: Southern NJ Member No.: 17776 |
QUOTE Now I feel torn as to whether I should revert back to that method or stay the course with image+cuesheet. If you tend to listen to albums in whole as I do, then there is no reason to change from image+embedded cuesheet. Plus for archiving purposes, it is the easiest way to keep track. Also, as someone stated earlier, there is less overhead with disc space. If you use foobar2000, it is very easy to create playlists using tracks from various image files if you want to mix it up from time to time. For me, images are the simplest way for managing my music. -------------------- Surf's Up!
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Jan 3 2007, 17:10
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Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Aachen, Germany Member No.: 29203 |
It's Ogg Vorbis at q5 (playback) and q-1 (streaming) for me. I like to have one codec for all my needs, and Vorbis does the trick quite well.
Well, all but one need: Archiving goes to FLAC. I experimented with WavPack during the christmas holidays, but in order to get a noticable advantage over FLAC -8, I had to crank up the compression to a point where encoding speed dropped to 3.5x. Not worth the transcode. edit: Just saw the TAK alpha thread. Wow, I gotta try that once it comes out. This post has been edited by Silversight: Jan 3 2007, 17:38 -------------------- Nothing is impossible if you don't need to do it yourself.
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Jan 3 2007, 21:51
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 Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Germany, Kempten Member No.: 19808 |
Bitrate 0-128 kbps: Nero AAC (for my iPod shuffle
 )VBR 128-320 kpbs: MP3 Lame (3.90.3 APS because of compatibility reasons) Bitrate 384 kbps: WavPack (to make backups for my cds )Lossless (0-1411 kbps): FLAC/WavPack (I don't use it but would if I could...) I must say that I'm very impressed of WavPack, I'm using the hybrid/lossy method for archiving because of HDD reasons, but I don't mind some so-said quality reductions. Home-Listening Quality is good enough for me, I don't have a cinema but a digital THX surround system where MP3 also sounds amazing, so WavPack lossy is good enough for backup my favorite cds. FLAC / WavPack would be used for lossless, i would make a blind selection. Rip Prog? - foobar.............. was using AudioCrusher (still using with lame 3.91 for fast ripping), Audiograbber (crappy!!!!!!!), CDex, EAC (the most time, but foobar is more comfortable to use for me... just an all-in-one tool for playback ripping testing streaming and everything else I need) If WavPack could be played on iPods, I'd use it for everything. WavPack would be perfect if a psymodel in 0-300 bitrates would be used and tuned like MPC/MP3/OGG, over 300kbps it's already perfect for me  Foobar WavPack & Lame rules! -------------------- FB2K,APE&LAME
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Jan 3 2007, 22:06
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 Rarewares admin Group: Members Posts: 7515 Joined: 30-September 01 From: Brazil Member No.: 81 |
QUOTE (memomai @ Jan 3 2007, 17:51)  If WavPack could be played on iPods, I'd use it for everything. It can (if you use RockBox) -------------------- Get up-to-date binaries of Lame, AAC, Vorbis and much more at RareWares:
http://www.rarewares.org |
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Jan 3 2007, 22:35
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Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Germany, Kempten Member No.: 19808 |
QUOTE QUOTE(memomai @ Jan 3 2007, 17:51) If WavPack could be played on iPods, I'd use it for everything. It can (if you use RockBox) REALLY?? I use a shuffle (2nd gen), I found on Rockbox.org only versions for nano and so on... This post has been edited by memomai: Jan 3 2007, 22:35 -------------------- FB2K,APE&LAME
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Jan 4 2007, 00:57
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Group: Developer Posts: 1289 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 5541 |
QUOTE (56Nomad @ Jan 2 2007, 16:12) I have two portable players that I just about never use. My question would be this: When/where do you use your portable? ... My other one is an older RCA Lyra with a 20 GB drive. I use it more for file transfer than I ever use it to play music or look at pictures or videos. I often wonder when/where all these bazillion iPods get used... On the bus, walking to/from work (I don't own a car anymore - live close to downtown), at the gym, on business trips. Off the top of my head. QUOTE (memomai @ Jan 3 2007, 14:35) REALLY?? I use a shuffle (2nd gen), I found on Rockbox.org only versions for nano and so on... You'd use wavpack on a shuffle?? You like listening to a handful of songs over and over? I'd say space is at a premium on a shuffle (and hybrid mode needs like 2x the bitrate that ACC does). This post has been edited by Jebus: Jan 4 2007, 00:58 |
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Jan 4 2007, 01:13
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 Group: Super Moderator Posts: 9251 Joined: 1-April 04 Member No.: 13167 |
Some interesting figures from http://www.synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/
Compression/Encoding: CODE Encoder Setting Compression Encode Rate FLAC -8 65.621% 9x WavPack -hh 64.487% 29x TAK Normal 63.875% 40x Monkey's Audio Normal 63.793% 39x OptimFROG 63.386% 15x Compression/Decoding: CODE Encoder Setting Compression Decode Rate FLAC -8 65.621% 78x Monkey's Audio Fast 64.914% 46x WavPack -hh 64.487% 47x TAK Normal 63.875% 83x Speed: CODE Encoder Setting Compression Encode Rate Decode Rate
TAK Turbo 64.929% 77x 85x FLAC -0 70.744% 73x 79x WavPack -f 66.741% 56x 73x Monkey's Audio Fast 64.914% 50x 46x This post has been edited by greynol: Jan 4 2007, 10:04 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Jan 4 2007, 01:16
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Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 17-July 02 Member No.: 2631 |
ALAC for archive.
AAC 128 VBR for the computer library and iPod(s) MP3 LAME 3.97 -V0 for car MP3 CDs Once the iPod Nano hits 15 GB (don't laugh it will), probably will just use MP3 -V0 |
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Jan 4 2007, 01:50
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 Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 19-November 04 From: Germany Member No.: 18222 |
Well, I'd say ...
MP3 forever, baby  I'm using LAME 3.97 V0 --vbr-new. I don't use lossless, but if I had to, I'd use FLAC. |
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Jan 4 2007, 02:07
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Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Denmark Member No.: 20365 |
WavPack images with embedded cuesheet and eac log for archiving.
LAME -V5 --vbr-new MP3 track files for PC playback. Both sets generated with EAC + REACT2 with just a single click of F10(which ReplayGain scans and tags the MP3's too ). I use images for archiving since my converter of choise/audio writing app of choise is fb2k/Burrrn and they support images with embedded cuesheets perfectly and also since i don't have to worry about hidden tracks and finally since because of the psychological thing about a one file representive of one CD-DA disc. I use LAME MP3 -V5 --vbr-new since they are transparent to my ears and so there are no reason for wasting space on using -V2 --vbr-new(which i have changed from alittle time ago).CU, Martin. |
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Jan 4 2007, 02:31
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Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 2-August 06 Member No.: 33533 |
FLAC for archival. I choose it for it's ubiquituos support.
LAME MP3 for lossy. I can ABX 20/20 on a few samples at V4 so I use V3. Once again, I choose MP3 because it's well supported. PS: I found a sample where V4 is much worse than V5 in LAME 3.97, should I submit it or something? I'm pretty new to all this testing and stuff so I dont know the precedure. This post has been edited by ranunculoid: Jan 4 2007, 02:32 |
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Jan 4 2007, 03:32
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Rarewares admin Group: Members Posts: 7515 Joined: 30-September 01 From: Brazil Member No.: 81 |
QUOTE (Jebus @ Jan 3 2007, 20:57) QUOTE (memomai @ Jan 3 2007, 14:35) REALLY?? I use a shuffle (2nd gen), I found on Rockbox.org only versions for nano and so on... You'd use wavpack on a shuffle?? You like listening to a handful of songs over and over? I'd say space is at a premium on a shuffle (and hybrid mode needs like 2x the bitrate that ACC does). Right. When he said he wanted WavPack on iPod, I expected it would be at least a 4Gb nano. And no, indeed, there isn't RockBox for shuffle. -------------------- Get up-to-date binaries of Lame, AAC, Vorbis and much more at RareWares:
http://www.rarewares.org |
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Jan 4 2007, 04:56
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 Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: 5-August 06 From: Canada Member No.: 33645 |
I use:
MP3 for compatibility (almnost every device I have reads it). Apple Lossless for back-up and/or use in the iPod. Atrac for real gapless playback in a Sony flash player (for some reason my iPod nano doesn't play gapless properly). I am currently using "track back up" but I am seriously considering a "file+cuesheet" type for some CDs. |
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 Jan 4 2007, 07:22
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Group: Super Moderator Posts: 9251 Joined: 1-April 04 Member No.: 13167 |
QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jan 3 2007, 18:32) When he said he wanted WavPack on iPod, I expected it would be at least a 4Gb nano.
This post has been edited by greynol: Jan 4 2007, 07:23 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Jan 4 2007, 11:41
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Group: Members Posts: 943 Joined: 6-September 04 Member No.: 16817 |
LAME at -V 2 for me. It's all converted from FLAC using dbPowerAmp but I'm stuck on 3.96.1 as I can't get the 3.97 binaries to work in dbPowerAmp even following the instructions for replacing the DLL as I just get output errors. Oh well.
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Jan 4 2007, 12:58
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Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Germany, Kempten Member No.: 19808 |
QUOTE Right. When he said he wanted WavPack on iPod, I expected it would be at least a 4Gb nano. And no, indeed, there isn't RockBox for shuffle. getting about 3-4 of my favorite cds on an mp3 player would have been enough for me... my shuffle takes 1 gb, so that would have been enough. It's a pity that there's no shuffle support, but I would maybe have been the first and only one who stores WavPack on a shuffle QUOTE LAME at -V 2 for me. It's all converted from FLAC using dbPowerAmp but I'm stuck on 3.96.1 as I can't get the 3.97 binaries to work in dbPowerAmp even following the instructions for replacing the DLL as I just get output errors. Oh well. why not using foobar for transcoding? This post has been edited by memomai: Jan 4 2007, 13:01 -------------------- FB2K,APE&LAME
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Jan 4 2007, 14:22
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 dBpowerAMP developer Group: Developer (Donating) Posts: 2650 Joined: 24-March 02 Member No.: 1615 |
QUOTE (probedb @ Jan 4 2007, 10:41) LAME at -V 2 for me. It's all converted from FLAC using dbPowerAmp but I'm stuck on 3.96.1 as I can't get the 3.97 binaries to work in dbPowerAmp even following the instructions for replacing the DLL as I just get output errors. Oh well. The R12 Beta has the very latest lame, see the beta thread of the forum. -------------------- Spoon http://www.dbpoweramp.com
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Jan 4 2007, 15:21
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Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 19-April 05 Member No.: 21535 |
EAC secure
Lame 3.97 --V2 --vbr-new or Cue+wav compressed with Monkey's Audio for backups |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:47
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QUOTE (probedb @ Jan 4 2007, 03:41) LAME at -V 2 for me. It's all converted from FLAC using dbPowerAmp but I'm stuck on 3.96.1 as I can't get the 3.97 binaries to work in dbPowerAmp even following the instructions for replacing the DLL as I just get output errors. Oh well. I use dbPowerAmp with the LAME 3.97 EXE rather than the DLL. I use the "Create Generic CLI" tool and this command line (for CD audiobooks): [InFile] [OutFile] -V 7 --vbr-new It works great. I'll keep doing it this way until R12 comes out of beta. |
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Jan 5 2007, 11:06
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MPC has 4% :0
-------------------- err... i'm not using windows any more ;)
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Jan 5 2007, 11:40
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Group: Members Posts: 900 Joined: 9-February 02 From: Cheshire, UK Member No.: 1296 |
Sign 'O' The Times.
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Jan 5 2007, 19:03
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Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 13-August 06 Member No.: 34002 |
well... there is the sv8 work...
-------------------- err... i'm not using windows any more ;)
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Jan 5 2007, 20:03
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 Group: Super Moderator Posts: 3267 Joined: 26-July 02 From: princegeorge.ca Member No.: 2796 |
If I was going to use a lossy format for personal archiving, it would be MPC.
-------------------- (atrix|(fb2k->e-mu 0404 usb|audio 8 dj))->hd280|jvc ha-fx35-b
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Jan 5 2007, 20:49
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Group: Members Posts: 471 Joined: 6-March 03 Member No.: 5360 |
Go Vorbis! Potentially the best quality you can get at 80 kbps. ;)
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