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 Dec 14 2004, 17:44
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I am not finding mp3direct software very easy to use for non-destructive mp3 editing. I am used to Adobe Audition aka Cool Edit in how easy it is to navigate and chop up files.
Is there any other software that can work with mp3 files to chop and adjust volume without reencoding them after saving? Rick |
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Dec 14 2004, 18:19
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MP3DirectCut musiCutter MP3Trim *nix: cutmp3 other/x-platform: pcutmp3 mpgedit PyMP3Cut (Python) I'm sure there are more, but these seem to be the most popular ones. This post has been edited by dev0: Mar 24 2006, 08:34 |
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Dec 14 2004, 18:21
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Will those programs allow you to increase the volume without re-encoding? I know you can cut an mp3 up without a re-encode, but increasing the volume doesn't seem like something you can do without a re-encode.
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Dec 14 2004, 18:25
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Group: Developer Posts: 1679 Joined: 23-December 01 From: Germany Member No.: 731 |
MP3DirectCut and MP3Trim can. Not sure about the others.
AFAIK they do it by modifying the global gain field of each MP3 frame. -------------------- "To understand me, you'll have to swallow a world." Or maybe your words.
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Dec 14 2004, 19:41
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QUOTE (dev0 @ Dec 14 2004, 09:19 AM) win32: MP3DirectCut musiCutter MP3Trim *nix: cutmp3 other/x-platform: mpgedit PyMP3Cut (Python) I'm sure there are more, but these seem to be the most popular ones.  Wow these are so crude. mp3directcut at least has a visual representation of the audio but I just cannot get the hang of marking my selections. |
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Dec 14 2004, 20:49
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QUOTE (RainDawg @ Dec 14 2004, 11:21 AM) Will those programs allow you to increase the volume without re-encoding? I know you can cut an mp3 up without a re-encode, but increasing the volume doesn't seem like something you can do without a re-encode. MP3Gain will let you do that. -------------------- http://ottodestruct.com
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Mar 3 2005, 22:37
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QUOTE (Otto42 @ Dec 14 2004, 07:49 PM) QUOTE (RainDawg @ Dec 14 2004, 11:21 AM) Will those programs allow you to increase the volume without re-encoding? I know you can cut an mp3 up without a re-encode, but increasing the volume doesn't seem like something you can do without a re-encode. MP3Gain will let you do that. Don't forget mp3splt. Granted it's a commandline app, but I've found it to be excellent with splitting up long mp3 and ogg mixes. It can't adjust the volume though. It's supported on most operating systems too. -------------------- http://www.health4ni.com/
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Mar 3 2005, 23:33
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I use the MP3 editor from Data Becker
http://mp3_players.mp3shopping.com/index.p...5LPRE&Itemid=48 It's $20 and is widely available. It will do all that you ask, and it's insanely simple to use. The editing interface is graphic, similar to Cool Edit et al. -------------------- [url=http://www.domain.com]Click here![/url]
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Apr 16 2005, 23:45
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thank you gentleman.
for anyone else coming across this thread mp3trim was fine for my simples need and free too. which is nice... cheers. |
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 Jun 26 2005, 14:21
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does you know any software that can remove pops/clicks (and make any other fixes) without destroying mp3's?
This post has been edited by OblivionXYZ: Jun 26 2005, 14:55 |
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Jun 26 2005, 15:12
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QUOTE (OblivionXYZ @ Jun 26 2005, 05:21 AM) does you know any software that can remove pops/clicks (and make any other fixes) without destroying mp3's? Such an app doesn't exist. |
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Jun 29 2005, 01:50
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It's in fact impossible. You can't remove the eggs from a cake once it's been baked.
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Jun 30 2005, 11:07
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Be careful with using mp3trim on gapless tracks which were encoded with lame - unless it was changed recently, you may loose the info which is used by decoders like the one in fb2k to playback files gaplessly. So, mass-trimming your entire music-collection is *not* a good idea.
- Lyx -------------------- I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.
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 Jun 30 2005, 19:43
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QUOTE (OblivionXYZ @ Jun 26 2005, 06:51 PM) does you know any software that can remove pops/clicks (and make any other fixes) without destroying mp3's? Nero Wave Editor (Can edit mp3s) for Nero 6 has this facility (Menu->Enhancement->Declicker) But not sure about destroying mp3 thing. (Don't understand what u meant) If u talk about re-enoding then yes it has to reencode after the editing is complete. -------------------- "M"
Mathematician Email: admin@mathematician.cjb.net Website: mathematician.cjb.net |
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Jul 1 2005, 10:08
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QUOTE (mathematician @ Jun 30 2005, 07:43 PM) Nero Wave Editor (Can edit mp3s) for Nero 6 has this facility (Menu->Enhancement->Declicker) But not sure about destroying mp3 thing. (Don't understand what u meant) If u talk about re-enoding then yes it has to reencode after the editing is complete. Then it's destructive. If a wav file say is encoded to mp3, then data has been lost to produce that mp3, hence the term "lossy". If that mp3 is decoded to wav again for editing and then re-encoded BACK to mp3 after editing has been completed, the quality of the resulting mp3 file is worse than in it's previous mp3 form: wav -> mp3 -> wav -> mp3 = not good. -------------------- http://www.health4ni.com/
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Jul 1 2005, 10:38
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with GoldWave you can save back in the original format
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Jul 1 2005, 11:10
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QUOTE (anykey @ Jul 1 2005, 10:38 AM) Yes but what format do you edit the files in? I've not heard, and indeed cannot find any evidence on their site, that GoldWave can edit mp3s without having to decode them to another format first and then when you've finished encode them back to mp3 (correct me if I'm wrong). They also seem to have problems with VBR files: see here. -------------------- http://www.health4ni.com/
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Jul 12 2005, 18:03
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Does any of those splitters maintains the LAME tag on the files, keeping the relevant data in each file created ?
I have tried MP3DirectCut, without luck. |
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Jul 12 2005, 19:08
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QUOTE (Dark_Angel @ Jul 12 2005, 06:03 PM) Does any of those splitters maintains the LAME tag on the files, keeping the relevant data in each file created ? I have tried MP3DirectCut, without luck. mp3splt does. I split a LAME 3.97a10 '-V 4 --vbr-new' encoded file and took the first minute from it. This is what foobar shows via the properties info: CODE Original file: lame_version = LAME3.97 lame_profile = lame_profile_index = 0 enc_delay = 576 enc_padding = 1788 mp3_accurate_length = yes bitrate = 133 codec = MP3 channels = 2 samplerate = 44100 extrainfo = VBR mp3_stereo_mode = joint stereo -------------------- 7984452 samples @ 44100Hz (mod 588 = 0) mp3splt file: lame_version = LAME3.97 lame_profile = lame_profile_index = 0 enc_delay = 576 enc_padding = 1788 mp3_accurate_length = yes bitrate = 138 codec = MP3 channels = 2 samplerate = 44100 extrainfo = VBR mp3_stereo_mode = joint stereo -------------------- 2644932 samples @ 44100Hz (rounded samples : 2644824) The Title, Artist, Album & Comment fields do get changed though. -------------------- http://www.health4ni.com/
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Jul 12 2005, 19:46
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QUOTE (jaybeee @ Jul 12 2005, 07:08 PM) mp3splt does. I split a LAME 3.97a10 '-V 4 --vbr-new' encoded file and took the first minute from it. This is what foobar shows via the properties info: CODE Original file: ::: enc_delay = 576 enc_padding = 1788 ::: -------------------- 7984452 samples @ 44100Hz (mod 588 = 0) mp3splt file: ::: enc_delay = 576 enc_padding = 1788 ::: -------------------- 2644932 samples @ 44100Hz (rounded samples : 2644824) mp3splt doesn't touch enc_delay/padding appropriately, I guess. (The outcome most likely won't be something you can play back gaplessly) I know of no *good* mp3 splitter. (My definition of *good* is something that matches kode54's suggestions which can be found here) Sebi |
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Dec 8 2005, 20:36
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QUOTE (rickeyjt @ Dec 14 2004, 11:44 AM) I am not finding mp3direct software very easy to use for non-destructive mp3 editing. I am used to Adobe Audition aka Cool Edit in how easy it is to navigate and chop up files. Is there any other software that can work with mp3 files to chop and adjust volume without reencoding them after saving? Rick Try this one, it's not freeware but sure looks nice. Mp3 Stream Editor 3 - http://www.3delite.hu/MP3SE/help/index.html |
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Dec 8 2005, 21:23
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te he, or Sebi's pcutmp3 tool. Works a treat.
-------------------- http://www.health4ni.com/
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