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SACD Ripping

Reply #76 –
In order to avoid any possible differences caused just because of a different performance of the DAC at different sample rates, it's better to play processed files always at 24 bit 96 KHz.

I mean, get the 24/96 files, convert them to 16/44.1, and back to 24/96, and compare them with the originals, in order to test just the differences caused by reduction in bitdepth and bandwitdh.

A test like this was performed some time ago, with interesting results:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....opic=17118&st=0

SACD Ripping

Reply #77 –
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my webspace is up again!

you can download the track here:
Hollister - Bismarck (full 24-96 original unmastered).wv

have fun
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Nice dry recording! I like the song in a way, only the drums are a bit "childish", if you know what I mean. The piano at the end (or synthesizer) could be more stereo. But I like it!

Regards,
jacco
Logical reasoning brings you from a to b, imagination brings you everywhere.

SACD Ripping

Reply #78 –
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Nice dry recording! I like the song in a way, only the drums are a bit "childish", if you know what I mean. The piano at the end (or synthesizer) could be more stereo. But I like it!

Regards,
jacco
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the credits go to OnyxRev who offered us this track here:

[a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35624]Full 24/96khz unmastered track for tests/analysis, Full res material for misc. use.[/url]

i think track-related things should be discussed there
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SACD Ripping

Reply #79 –
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Nice dry recording! I like the song in a way, only the drums are a bit "childish", if you know what I mean. The piano at the end (or synthesizer) could be more stereo. But I like it!

Regards,
jacco
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the credits go to OnyxRev who offered us this track here:

[a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35624]Full 24/96khz unmastered track for tests/analysis, Full res material for misc. use.[/url]

i think track-related things should be discussed there
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Yes, you are right. But I am happy to read over there that it was indeed not a real piano (Roland), as I thought to hear before I read that thread.

Regards,
Jacco
Logical reasoning brings you from a to b, imagination brings you everywhere.

SACD Ripping

Reply #80 –
I think that SACD definitely sounds better than CD, based on my experience listening to a good number of Sony releases in both formats. Not all are strictly comparable in terms of who did the mastering - but in general I hear more detail, particularly in quiet passages. Also more dynamics. When the music gets loud and lots of instruments are playing, SACD seems to maintain a clearer representation of the instruments without loss of their individual voices.

As for mastering at 24/96 - I just got myself a M-Audio Audiophile 192 card, and transferred my first LP side to digital. I actually recorded at teh highest sampling rate (192KHz) and played around with the waves a bit - then I downsampled to 96Khz and used Audio DVD Creator to create a DVD-V with hi-res stereo that I could play on my Sony DVD/SACD player (I don't have DVD-A nor the tools to create a DVD-A). The sound was great and indistinguishable from the LP. I played them sid by side and switched from one to the other - I could hear no difference at all.

I really didn't need to record at 192 KHz, but I was just messing around. I like the idea of burning DVD-Vs of old LPs at 24/96 resolution. I could try doing DVD-As at 192 KHz but I doubt I would gain much, and I'd need to get a player and the software tools. I don't even know what software can do DVD-As.

SACD Ripping

Reply #81 –
well, your preference of sacd vs. cd will be only due to the different masterings.
As you have the knowledge to make your own 24/96 recordings, you could participate in the testing, get something in 24/96 stereo as original, even  your vinyl recording would be fine,
and then make 1 comparison track:
1. 24/96 downsample to 44.1/16 (including dithering) -> 2. upsample to 24/96 again.


Compare these 2 24/96 tracks in A/B trials on your HiFi, if you think you hear a difference, try ABX to exclude placebo.