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TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #150 –
Should i release an alpha version of the WinAmp plugin?

As i wrote earlier, a WinAmp plugin is already done. I wanted to wait with a release until the finalization of my SDK, because the plugin shall use the SDK library. But the testing of the SDK will possibly take a bit more time and i really would like TAK users to be able to playback TAK files as soon as possible. For me it was very much fun to hear my first TAK file...

I am thinking about an alpha release within the next days. Well, i haven't had any severe trouble with the plugin, therefore i could also call it a beta release. But i want to wait, until the SDK is done. Then i will compile a new version of the plugin and call it beta...

Any reason why i shouldn't release an alpha now? (For the user it's totally easy to switch to the later beta and final.)

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #151 –
No,

Release it ASAP! Hehehe, I've been checking the forum daily to give it a try . Can't wait Thomas!

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #152 –
Quote from: Brydenn33 on
No,

Release it ASAP! Hehehe, I've been checking the forum daily to give it a try . Can't wait Thomas!


I would also love an alpha and Thomas can prove that he actually got it working ;-)

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #153 –
i say release it. TAK right now is almost completely useless unless there is something that can actually play the audio.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #154 –
Quote from: Mangix on
i say release it. TAK right now is almost completely useless unless there is something that can actually play the audio.
I rarely play my WavPack archive files.

That said, I think you should release it Thomas.
I'm on a horse.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #155 –
Quote from: Synthetic Soul on
Quote from: Mangix on
i say release it. TAK right now is almost completely useless unless there is something that can actually play the audio.
I rarely play my WavPack archive files.

That said, I think you should release it Thomas.
Yup, many users simply keep the lossless files as an archive and usually listen to the music transcoded to their favorite lossy format on DAPs/mobiles or stereos, but not all: me I listen to PC playback a lot, and therefore a WA plugin would be welcome even im alpha state, it'd also push the format even further I think.
WavPack 5.6.0 -b384hx6cmv / qaac64 2.80 -V 100

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #156 –
I wouldn't release a winamp plugin, instead focus on a C library and API. But i'm biased, since i have no use for a winamp plugin.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #157 –
Another vote for yes release the alpha plugin.  Like I said earlier it would be cool to hear a TAK file.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #159 –
@Thomas

I was using the -l2 option in takc (version 1), and noticed two things:

1. The results are in German... (Nein, Ja). You might want to change it to English.

2. More pressing, It seems that TAK is not using SSE in my computer. Is it disabled at the moment or am i the only one suffering from this? I'd love to see how fast TAK would go if SSE were enabled. 

Thanks for your work on TAK and for releasing the plugin. I'm in the process of converting all my lossless to TAK.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #160 –
Quote from: kanak on
1. The results are in German... (Nein, Ja). You might want to change it to English.

You are right. Currently i am using one of my standard libraries (also used in other projects) to create the protocol file. I didn't want to touch this well tested code. But i will change it sooner or later.

Quote from: kanak on
2. More pressing, It seems that TAK is not using SSE in my computer. Is it disabled at the moment or am i the only one suffering from this? I'd love to see how fast TAK would go if SSE were enabled. 

Currently TAK isn't using any SSE optimizations. Because of it's speed oriented design, nearly any calculation is beeing performed in 16-bit integer arithmetic. I doubt that SSE's floating point arithmetic could be any faster. Only the core calculation routine of the predictor coefficients is using floating point. Early Yalac evaluation versions contained a SSE implementation of this code, but the speed advantage wasn't significant (maybe 1 percent...). It's possible, that future TAK versions will use the 128-bit MMX-implemenation (instead of the good old 64-bit MMX) of SSE3 and then you will see a 'Ja', sorry, 'Yes' in the SSE field. But first i will have to buy a new PC which supports SSE3...

Quote from: kanak on
Thanks for your work on TAK and for releasing the plugin. I'm in the process of converting all my lossless to TAK.

Wow, that's great news for me! I wasn't sure if someone is really using TAK!

  Thomas

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #161 –
Quote from: TBeck on
Quote from: kanak on

Thanks for your work on TAK and for releasing the plugin. I'm in the process of converting all my lossless to TAK.

Wow, that's great news for me! I wasn't sure if someone is really using TAK!

  Thomas


  The pleasure is mine. I'm saving about 7 mb per album (previously compressed using wavpack -hh). Now all i need is a plugin in foobar and replaygain support, and i'm all set!

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #162 –
Quote from: kanak on
The pleasure is mine. I'm saving about 7 mb per album (previously compressed using wavpack -hh). Now

Out of curiousity: Which preset are you using?
Quote from: kanak on
all i need is a plugin in foobar and replaygain support, and i'm all set!

Possibly you will not have to wait too long for a foobar plugin, but damn... i always had the feeling, i have forgotten something... "replaygain support"! That it was!

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #164 –
Just as a side note...
Is there actually interest in a foobar2000 0.8.3 decoder plugin?

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #165 –
Quote from: Raiden on
Just as a side note...
Is there actually interest in a foobar2000 0.8.3 decoder plugin?


I think still someone using 0.8.x because some 3rd party plugin not working in 0.9.

Foobar2000 is one of the best and serious player/converter/processor, can't imagine doing batch job or simple scripting without it, using other tools works but take a much longer time.
Hong Kong - International Joke Center (after 1997-06-30)

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #166 –
Even so, I think developing for an older, non-supported, version of foobar is a waste of time that could be spent  better elsewhere.

Perhaps a 3rd party can choose to do so when the SDK is released, if they see fit.

NB: I dig foobar too, but that's pretty 'TOS #5'.
I'm on a horse.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #167 –
Quote from: Raiden on
Just as a side note...
Is there actually interest in a foobar2000 0.8.3 decoder plugin?


Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #169 –
Quote from: Raiden on
Just as a side note...
Is there actually interest in a foobar2000 0.8.3 decoder plugin?

A foobar2000 decoder + winamp decoder is the only thing that's been keeping me from converting my current lossless files over.

Though I'm willing to wait for an API to come out so that others can work on plugins/conversion tools if necessary.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #170 –
Quote from: Raiden on
Is there actually interest in a foobar2000 0.8.3 decoder plugin?

Quote from: sthayashi on
A foobar2000 decoder + winamp decoder is the only thing that's been keeping me from converting my current lossless files over.

Though I'm willing to wait for an API to come out so that others can work on plugins/conversion tools if necessary.

A Winamp playback plugin is already available and it looks, as if an experienced developer will soon start the work on a foobar plugin. I myself will not provide a plugin for older foobar versions. I can't do all on my own...

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #171 –
i need help with the parameters when using foobar to encode to TAK.

after looking at the readme, i came up with the following chains:
-e -p4 %d
-e -extra %d

and neither work. i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong, as far as i can tell those chains should work. can anyone help me out?

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #172 –
Quote from: randal1013 on
i need help with the parameters when using foobar to encode to TAK.

after looking at the readme, i came up with the following chains:
-e -p4 %d
-e -extra %d

and neither work. i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong, as far as i can tell those chains should work. can anyone help me out?



since piping is not supported, you need to do this:

takc -e -p4 %s %d

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #173 –
%d is the destination name.  You are not specifying a source.  Therefore:

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-e -p4 %s %d

Edit:  Beaten to it.  That's what comes of lining up a load of tabs in Firefox before reading.
I'm on a horse.

TAK 1.0 - Final release of the new lossless codec

Reply #174 –
Quote from: kanak on
since piping is not supported, you need to do this:

takc -e -p4 %s %d
that works, thanks!

now it's saying:
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Error flushing file (Object not found) : file://C:\folder\1_1.Igor Stravinksy - L'adoration De La Terre.tak

EDIT: apparently TAK doesn't like 32BPS