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Multiple WAV Files With Gaps (Noncompliant), Cue-Sheet Question
Vietwoojagig
post Jan 31 2006, 10:23
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I have three questions concerning cue-sheet created in EAC with

"Multiple WAV Files With Gaps (Noncompliant)"

* Is there a plugin for winamp, to play such CUEs?
* Is there a plugin for foobar, to play such CUEs?
* Is there anything that converts such CUEs into compliant CUEs, keeping all information (REM, INDEX 00, ...) as far as possible?

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liekloo
post Jan 31 2006, 17:27
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QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ Jan 31 2006, 10:23 AM)
1. Is there a plugin for winamp, to play such CUEs?
2. Is there a plugin for foobar, to play such CUEs?
3. Is there anything that converts such CUEs into compliant CUEs, keeping all information (REM, INDEX 00, ...) as far as possible?

1. I don't know, I'm not that familiar with winamp

2. foobar plays these CUE sheets and doesn't require any plugin for that. However, future versions will no longer support the noncompliant CUE sheet type (=decision of developer). It is already the case in the current beta (0.9.x)

3. Obviously not. Otherwise nobody would be using the noncompliant CUE sheet. The reason why people use it anyway is that when you extract WAV files appended with the next track's gap, there is no compliant CUE sheet available: the CUE sheet standard does not allow that a track and its gap are stored in seperate WAV files.

What can be done is converting BOTH cue AND wav files into either an image or separate WAVs for which a compliant CUE sheet does exist (= gap and corresponding track in the same WAV).
I don't know of any program or script that does the job, but I agree it would be useful.

One last thought:
quote from this thread:
QUOTE (liekloo @ Nov 30 2005, 03:31 PM)
QUOTE (liekloo @ Oct 4 2005, 10:55 PM)
Maybe one last question to the Foobar2000 team:
Playback of Cue sheets currently emulates a "append gaps to previous tracks" rip. Will this always remain so, or are there plans to emulate "true" CD playback?

This might be a question for zZzZzZz:
to what extent do you plan to take advantage of the Cue indexes in future foobar2000 versions?

Why this question? Currently there is no advantage in playing back separate files through a noncompliant Cue sheet, over playing them directly. In other words these Cue sheets are redundant for playback untill the day that foobar2000 starts to take advantage of all indexes to further approach hardware CD player behaviour. If that's a possibility, I imagine that'd be reason enough for many people (incl. myself) to seriously reconsider Cue sheet alternatives.

So, what does the future look like, zZzZzZz? Thank you in advance. smile.gif
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No answer up till today, unfortunately crying.gif
Would that mean the foobar team doesn't have a vision on this topic?


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post Jan 31 2006, 19:58
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QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ Jan 31 2006, 09:23 AM)
  * Is there anything that converts such CUEs into compliant CUEs, keeping all information (REM, INDEX 00, ...) as far as possible?
You could edit the cuesheet so that it became compliant, but you would lose your INDEX 00 entries.

Using the cuesheet from the excellent wiki page as an example:

Before
CODE
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 01 - Subdivisions.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 00 05:33:45
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 02 - The Analog Kid.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 00 04:47:32
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 03 - Chemistry.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
INDEX 00 04:57:18
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 04 - Digital Man.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 05 AUDIO
INDEX 00 06:20:53
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 05 - The Weapon.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
INDEX 00 06:23:12
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 06 - New World Man.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
INDEX 00 03:42:08
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 07 - Losing It.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 08 AUDIO
INDEX 00 04:52:20
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 08 - Countdown.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00

After
CODE
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 01 - Subdivisions.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 02 - The Analog Kid.wav" WAVE
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 03 - Chemistry.wav" WAVE
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 04 - Digital Man.wav" WAVE
TRACK 04 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 05 - The Weapon.wav" WAVE
TRACK 05 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 06 - New World Man.wav" WAVE
TRACK 06 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 07 - Losing It.wav" WAVE
TRACK 07 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "D:\MP3\Ripados\Rush\Signals\Rush - Signals - 08 - Countdown.wav" WAVE
TRACK 08 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00


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