Request: Add native support for INITIAL KEY / TKEY field

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Request: Add native support for INITIAL KEY / TKEY field, I'm desperate for this! [Moved from Development (TOS #6)]

privatewid View Member Profile	Jan 1 2012, 23:08 Post #1
Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 4-January 09 Member No.: 65160	Hi, I am absolutely desperate for this to be included as storing the key results for my tracks is really important to me as an (amateur) DJ. It's in the v2.3 and v2.4 spec as 'TKEY' but it shows in the playlist as a question mark. I've tried APE tags and as a work-around it works but APE tags (with album art) aren't supported by Native Instruments Traktor Pro or my mobile phone so using APE tags are not a realistic option for me. I've been hoping for so long support for it would be added but it never came. I promise make a £30 donation if this feature can be added as it's the only thing stopping me from using foobar to manage my collection for DJing. Is it possible support for this field to be added? Please!! Thanks, Paul

q-stankovic View Member Profile	Jan 1 2012, 23:37 Post #2
Group: Members Posts: 1686 Joined: 28-May 06 From: Düsseldorf Member No.: 31251	By definition in the standards that field comes with a predefined sets of values. Therefore that field belong to that group of fields that is not supported by foobar2000. Another example is the TLAN field - foobar2000 stores <LANGUAGE> instead of that in a TXXX-frame. -------------------- german support forum: www.foobar-users.de / user: qwert73

klonuo View Member Profile	Jan 2 2012, 00:25 Post #3
Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 29-April 10 Member No.: 80274	QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Jan 2 2012, 00:37) Therefore that field belong to that group of fields that is not supported by foobar2000. Did you conclude that only by looking at id3 home page?

q-stankovic View Member Profile	Jan 2 2012, 00:27 Post #4
Group: Members Posts: 1686 Joined: 28-May 06 From: Düsseldorf Member No.: 31251	No, it was mentioned here. perhaps somebody is able to bring a quote. however, it is a fact that these fields are not supported This post has been edited by q-stankovic: Jan 2 2012, 00:27 -------------------- german support forum: www.foobar-users.de / user: qwert73

privatewid View Member Profile	Jan 2 2012, 00:45 Post #5
Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 4-January 09 Member No.: 65160	QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Jan 1 2012, 22:37) By definition in the standards that field comes with a predefined sets of values. Therefore that field belong to that group of fields that is not supported by foobar2000. Another example is the TLAN field - foobar2000 stores <LANGUAGE> instead of that in a TXXX-frame. Is there any chance of foobar support fields with predefined sets of values do you think? I have two other apps, Mixed In Key and Traktor Pro. Mixed In Key scans my files and stores the result in the TKEY field whereas Traktor Pro displays the key result alongside the currently playing tracks so I really could use this functionality being added to foobar. Traktor's own collection viewer is far inferior to that of foobars which can be completely customized, as we all know, that's why I wanted to use foobar as the management of my tracks. I guess the only other option would be to have Mixed In Key store the key result in the only other field it exports key results to which is the %comments% field and have Traktor display that instead. Obviously this brings with it it's own disadvantages in that I will no longer be able to use %comments% to actually store comments in. Another alternative is for me to use MusicBee instead which allows key results to be displayed.

Morzzz View Member Profile	Jan 11 2012, 01:24 Post #6
Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 11-January 12 Member No.: 96356	Add Virtual DJ and the Pioneer Recordbox software to that list. These programs will also allow use of the Camelot Notation (1A, 1B, 2A, 2B...) in the TKEY (InitialKey) field. Although this is not following standard specs, it seems the whole electronic music community is using this way to tag their files. This feature, native or via plugin, together with the Waveform Seekbar plugin (which rocks!) would make foobar the ultimate tool for managing electronic music.

privatewid View Member Profile	Feb 4 2012, 11:13 Post #7
Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 4-January 09 Member No.: 65160	It's obvious this facility will never be added to foobar. That's the reason I switched to MusicBee a while ago. Foobar has been good to me in the past but MusicBee's native support for initial keys + auto-updating playlists = comfortable winner in my eyes.

Putena54 View Member Profile	May 11 2013, 18:38 Post #8
Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 13-May 12 Member No.: 99805	Is is please possible to support TKEY "Initial Key" in the next release - 1.2.7? I think it is not really difficult to add a new simple column. A lot of software supports it in the meantime - as listed above - including: Tag & Rename Serato Scratch Live rekordbox Keyfinder THANKS A LOT! --- KeyFinder is a great tool and also auto-updates it in WAV files! (but be careful, version 1.17 for Windows only writes ID3v2.3 - and would remove ID3v2.4 tags!, when 1.18 is available - 2.4 tags will not removed!). So run it BEFORE you update all other columns - or run it via file rename and then import it from there.

Putena54 View Member Profile	May 11 2013, 19:18 Post #9
Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 13-May 12 Member No.: 99805	YEAH ... just found it by accident. Selected multiple files and right click, properties - and showed the column "<INITIAL KEY>" ... so added a personal column called "Key" with "%INITIAL KEY%" ... Someone should update http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...ID3_Tag_Mapping and http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...tting_Reference ;-)

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