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[seemingly abandonware] iPod manager, also known as foo_dop
fanerman91
post Jan 21 2013, 06:50
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I've run into a problem. I plugged in my 160GB iPod classic (not sure what generation) in a computer with iTunes in it and tried transferring a video file to it, but now I'm unable to add any music to the iPod using foo_dop. When I try to do that, I get the following error message:

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Error reading iTunesDB: Invalid format; expected header marker "dbhm" got "ʴ3DI"


(I tried to approximate that symbol before the "3" in "3DI" as best I could. It's a superscript mirror-image of an "L".

Has anyone seen that error before?

Thanks
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dag0
post Jan 21 2013, 10:53
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Did you try in Foobar Main Menu:File/Ipod/Rewrite Database?
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Meshens
post Mar 19 2013, 04:15
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I too have been getting these iTunesDB errors with an iPod 7G 160GB. The first time my iPod could not even be restored and my hard drive was messed up.

I received a replacement device that worked fine for 2 or 3 months maybe, and now I'm back to database errors. I was able to restore it in iTunes and put music on it again, and it continued working for another few days.

Then I tried adding more of my music (I'd rushed to put some of the music I really wanted to listen to on when I restored it) and it seemed to work okay. After having these issues in the past I started using the "Rewrite database" tool each time I connected it to retrieve data for audioscrobbler and then once more before I would eject it.

I eventually get to a point where my iPod shows no music after it's ejected. The file transfers all seem to go okay, and it shows used space on the hard disk. I was even able to rewrite the database and eject without errors. But it doesn't think there are any music files on there and now I'm getting an error similar to fanerman91, except with different header marker text. I can't do anything to the iPod anymore and if I'm lucky iTunes might be able to restore it again.

I'm starting to think there's some terrible bug with foo_dop and these 160GB iPods. I didn't really want to buy an Apple product anyways and I'm considering getting the Sansa Clip+ instead now, but I'd love any suggestions on fixing this. I have a theory it could have to do with it getting past a certain point in usage or maybe a certain weird thing with an artist or filename or something but I haven't received any errors other than the database ones and I've had more space filled than I do at the moment.

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frogworth
post Mar 19 2013, 13:47
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It's not a matter of some terrible bug in foo_dop.

foo_dop is very old, and the developer, musicmusic, hasn't been seen around here for a long time. The last version available was compatible with iTunes 10.5 beta. For perspective, iTunes 10.5 was released in October 2011.

This component is simply not going to be compatible with the latest version of iTunes, the latest iPods, and definitely not with iPhones running any even vaguely recent iOS version.

There's a reason the thread now has [seemingly abandonware] prepended to its name. It's dead.
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post Mar 19 2013, 14:04
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This forum needs a Like button!
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matt the cat
post Mar 20 2013, 07:02
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QUOTE (frogworth @ Mar 19 2013, 15:47) *
It's not a matter of some terrible bug in foo_dop.

foo_dop is very old, and the developer, musicmusic, hasn't been seen around here for a long time. The last version available was compatible with iTunes 10.5 beta. For perspective, iTunes 10.5 was released in October 2011.

This component is simply not going to be compatible with the latest version of iTunes, the latest iPods, and definitely not with iPhones running any even vaguely recent iOS version.

There's a reason the thread now has [seemingly abandonware] prepended to its name. It's dead.
Which is a real shame to be honest sad.gif
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Meshens
post Mar 21 2013, 00:10
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Just because the software is abandoned doesn't mean it's not a bug.

There should be a lot more warning and information on any pages related to it stating what you just posted.
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marc2003
post Mar 21 2013, 00:15
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it's all there if you actually bother to look....

http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start#supported_models
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KKKoL
post Mar 21 2013, 05:27
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i just got a free 32gb ipod touch (not sure what generation, but it has the 6.1.3 iOS)

i have ipod manager, itunes and quicktime, the nero aac codec, have enabled mobile support and have the new foo_dop, but foobar STILL won't recognize my ipod

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Meshens
post Mar 21 2013, 07:15
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QUOTE (marc2003 @ Mar 20 2013, 19:15) *
it's all there if you actually bother to look....

http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start#supported_models


I'm fairly certain the "6G (classic 2009 160GB)" listed there is what most people call the seventh generation.
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post Mar 21 2013, 08:45
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QUOTE (KKKoL @ Mar 21 2013, 04:27) *
but it has the 6.1.3 iOS


which was released 2 days ago. again if you look at the supported model list i posted, foo_dop only works up to version 4.

QUOTE (Meshens @ Mar 21 2013, 06:15) *
I'm fairly certain the "6G (classic 2009 160GB)" listed there is what most people call the seventh generation.


is it running the same firmware that was about in 2009? i'm guessing not. software is the problem here. apple keep pushing updates that break any work that 3rd parties do for people to access hardware they paid for using programs other than itunes. if you want to moan at somebody, i'd start with them.

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post Mar 21 2013, 09:32
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QUOTE (Meshens @ Mar 20 2013, 23:10) *
Just because the software is abandoned doesn't mean it's not a bug.

There should be a lot more warning and information on any pages related to it stating what you just posted.

‘The software should have the power to time-travel into the future and develop support for all possible iPods in advance; to do otherwise is indicative of a problem in its programming.’

Really? Really?
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Meshens
post Mar 21 2013, 13:37
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Lol, you guys are so ridiculous here. Just because the bug came into existence after the plugin was released doesn't mean it isn't a bug.

I never implied anything about it or asked anyone to fix the plugin. I only asked if anyone else had a similar issue that they were able to resolve and also wanted to warn people.

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chileboy
post Mar 21 2013, 14:39
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Makes me glad I'm still using an iPod Video 5.5, which hasn't seen an update in a long time - and still works perfectly with foo_dop and latest fb2k
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post Mar 21 2013, 15:13
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Or just install the Rockbox custom firmware so you can add music the drag-n-drop style or use the file manager/synchronisation app of your choice (i.e. total commander and/or teracopy). (With this firmware the iPod behaves like an external disc).
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Meshens
post Mar 21 2013, 22:20
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QUOTE (Propheticus @ Mar 21 2013, 10:13) *
Or just install the Rockbox custom firmware so you can add music the drag-n-drop style or use the file manager/synchronisation app of your choice (i.e. total commander and/or teracopy). (With this firmware the iPod behaves like an external disc).


Oh man, the only reason I wasn't using this before is because it makes my iPod incompatible with my dock and so I'd have to use the auxiliary plug. But I'd have to do this with a different player anyways. Thanks for bringing that up.
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chileboy
post Mar 22 2013, 00:24
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I use Rockbox mostly and love it, but it isn't compatible with my car system, so I have to dual-boot into the original firmware - which means I still have to build the iTunes database...hence foo_dop...
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