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foobar2000 v1.0: discussion
Polouess
post Jan 11 2010, 11:35
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QUOTE (fatfassbinder @ Jan 10 2010, 18:06) *
Will I lose my settings and my foobar layout if I update?


Well, I lost mine. I'm using 0.9.6.9 portable install, and it looks like the portable settings have moved from foobar2000.cfg to a lot of single files (one for each plugin) in the new "configuration" folder.

Please, what was the need for such a big change, which is not even very clearly documented, and why not make it backwards compatible?
I'll be continuing happily with 0.9.6.9 until someone writes a plug-in that converts my old settings to the new cfg thingy.

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post Jan 11 2010, 11:59
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post Jan 11 2010, 12:17
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QUOTE (ernstblaauw @ Jan 11 2010, 11:22) *
As I always use the compatibility mode switch to enable correct tagging for my Nokia N95, I'm wondering if padding was enabled or disabled before. I guess it was enabled if the compatibility switch was off, and it was disabled if the compatibility switch was on?
Exactly, it did (and still does) multiple things to improve compatibility.


QUOTE (Polouess @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35) *
Well, I lost mine. I'm using 0.9.6.9 portable install, and it looks like the portable settings have moved from foobar2000.cfg to a lot of single files (one for each plugin) in the new "configuration" folder.
Not only portable settings. However the foobar2000.cfg contents are loaded fine when you first run the application, then saved to the "configuration" folder automatically the next time configuration is written.
QUOTE (Polouess @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35) *
Please, what was the need for such a big change, which is not even very clearly documented, and why not make it backwards compatible?
The reason for the change was that people wanted more powerful way to manage component configuration, like delete old entries or transfer only settings for some components without the need to bring the whole foobar2000.cfg over. Also it seems you didn't read the v1.0 Release Notes.
QUOTE (Polouess @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35) *
I'll be continuing happily with 0.9.6.9 until someone writes a plug-in that converts my old settings to the new cfg thingy.
Irrelevant, the new version does it itself transparently.


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post Jan 11 2010, 12:34
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QUOTE (Yirkha @ Jan 11 2010, 13:17) *
QUOTE (Polouess @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35) *
Well, I lost mine. I'm using 0.9.6.9 portable install, and it looks like the portable settings have moved from foobar2000.cfg to a lot of single files (one for each plugin) in the new "configuration" folder.
Not only portable settings. However the foobar2000.cfg contents are loaded fine when you first run the application, then saved to the "configuration" folder automatically the next time configuration is written.

You're right. Worked fine once I deleted the "configuration" folder and re-copied the foobar2000.cfg before starting up. Looks like I made the mistake to start the freshly-installed fb2k too soon (that is, before copying all my components and settings and stuff to the new folder).
QUOTE (Yirkha @ Jan 11 2010, 13:17) *
QUOTE (Polouess @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35) *
Please, what was the need for such a big change, which is not even very clearly documented, and why not make it backwards compatible?
The reason for the change was that people wanted more powerful way to manage component configuration, like delete old entries or transfer only settings for some components without the need to bring the whole foobar2000.cfg over. Also it seems you didn't read the v1.0 Release Notes.

Sorry, I didn't see that.
QUOTE (Yirkha @ Jan 11 2010, 13:17) *
QUOTE (Polouess @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35) *
I'll be continuing happily with 0.9.6.9 until someone writes a plug-in that converts my old settings to the new cfg thingy.
Irrelevant, the new version does it itself transparently.

Now happily using 1.0 of the greates audio player ever smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 12:48
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@mstram24: Oh, slsk is still existing? I left after I declared IDM to be dead (and switched to classical music then).

THANKS PETER. FB2k is THE music management tool for todays geeks. OK, now I think it's time to make the converter better smile.gif After your well deserved holidays, of course wink.gif

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post Jan 11 2010, 14:07
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Soulseek? i dont think it ever ceased to exist... but it did go through a change in servers recently


btw Yirkha, did you propose to Peter to implement your Foo_Jesus in the core components of version 1.0? this autosaving is so necessary lol

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post Jan 11 2010, 16:46
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thanks smile.gif cant believe that fb2k got finaly a 1.0 release smile.gif

but ill wait "a bit" til all my plugins i use are ready for the 1.0 version. but the accurate rip is realy fine smile.gif

only things i wann have (i havent looked up if they are included in the 1.0, but theyre not in the changelog):
-possibility to create a multiple-file cue
-wirte a log file

but accurate rip is a realy nice new feautere smile.gif

seeya and thanks, already spent over 19 weeks of my life on listening music with foobar smile.gif

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post Jan 11 2010, 17:09
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Definetly my favourite audio player.

A couple of question/whishes:
  1. Any plans to release a native 64-bit build ?
  2. What about other platforms ?


Thanks in advice !
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post Jan 11 2010, 18:09
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QUOTE (forart.eu @ Jan 11 2010, 18:09) *
Any plans to release a native 64-bit build ?

Will it improve anything?


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post Jan 11 2010, 18:22
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Hello everybody. smile.gif

Sorry to interrupt the joyful reunion, but I think I am experiencing a pretty bug.
I'm running a Windows 7 Ultimate, and I'm forced to "set as Administrator" if I want to see the program works.
If I try to open foobar without these precautions, it says "Unrecoverable playback error" when I press play.
If someoone have a more convenient solution, I would be glad to hear.

Greetings from France. wink.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 18:30
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Maybe you want to play audio tracks you have no access rights to with that restricted user account.

Look into foobar's console (main menu View -> console) for more detailed information.
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post Jan 11 2010, 18:32
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QUOTE (Robertina @ Jan 11 2010, 18:30) *
Maybe you want to play audio tracks you have no access rights to with that restricted user account.

Look into foobar's console (main menu View -> console) for more detailed information.


That's weird, because I had no problem with the previous versions... unsure.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 18:35
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Then best would be to open a new thread which contains a list of your components, the content of foobar's console (which is more detailed than the error popup) and what kind of files (file type) can't be played.
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post Jan 11 2010, 18:37
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QUOTE (Robertina @ Jan 11 2010, 18:35) *
Then best would be to open a new thread which contains a list of your components, the content of foobar's console (which is more detailed than the error popup) and what kind of files (file type) can't be played.


I'll do that, then. Thank you. smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 19:31
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I find it real hard to explain what this software means to me. Let me tell like this: A life without music is inconceivable for me, from which it follows, a life without Foobar2000 is impossible for me. I have seen awesome applications, - MPlayer for instance - but this is different. I have tried almost all the music players out there including, media monkey, gmusic browser, mpd with a thousand clients, xmms2, Helium Music Manager - Well I have lost count. But this is where I come back to.

Thanks to Peter and all other people involved in developing and maintaining this software.

[Sorry for being emotional. I was helpless. I hope members don't get banned for being emotional in Hydrogen Audio Forums.]
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post Jan 11 2010, 19:43
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Incredible milestone in development. Thank you to everyone involved. I recommend (and install) this player for all my friends and people I meet. I also think a Donation button is long overdue on the Support page. You guys deserve some $ donations.
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post Jan 11 2010, 19:57
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QUOTE (ProphetOfFrivolity @ Jan 11 2010, 07:31) *
[Sorry for being emotional. I was helpless. I hope members don't get banned for being emotional in Hydrogen Audio Forums.]

I think we all feel the same way regarding the question what foobar2000 means to us.  smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 22:04
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QUOTE (Zao @ Jan 11 2010, 02:50) *
QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Jan 10 2010, 13:06) *
I would to say please to the component developers outside to repect the spirit of the DefaultUi: So please don't add preferences for custom colors but respect the global ones, if you create a selection viewer take the global setting, keep components simple and clean, ...

My components use the global colors by default and provides the ability to override a global color individually per instance. My experience is that it's very hard to get a pleasing and consistent look for all the different permutations of global colors. It's almost essential to provide the ability to override some in order to get a pleasing look.
To quote the movie Clerks: "The best of two worlds."

I must admit that my sentence is misleading: Of course it is reasonable and doesn't touch the spirit of Dui to add custom colors like foo_textdisplay and some visualizations do. As i wrote that i was thinking of a scenario like in Columns Ui where on one side this Ui offers opportunity of global color settings and on other side just very few panels use that.

Furthermore i used that as example just to express my hope that new UiElements will be simple and clean.


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Congrats, about time..
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post Jan 12 2010, 05:04
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QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Jan 11 2010, 22:04) *
... As i wrote that i was thinking of a scenario like in Columns Ui where on one side this Ui offers opportunity of global color settings and on other side just very few panels use that.
Furthermore i used that as example just to express my hope that new UiElements will be simple and clean.

It's about equally simple to use and get notified of changes in the global colors in DUI and CUI code.
In Default UI, you implement a notify() function that your parent calls to tell you about changes.
In Columns UI, you implement a callback and register it with CUI.

As you say, it's mostly in the minds of the element/panel developers, who may not know nor care about how to leverage the existing color infrastructure.


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post Jan 12 2010, 05:26
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Thank you so much for foobar2000, Peter!! It is unrivaled in its breadth of features, flexibility, stability, and speed -- on any platform.
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QUOTE (sergeymen @ Jan 12 2010, 05:26) *
Thank you so much for foobar2000, Peter!! It is unrivaled in its breadth of features, flexibility, stability, and speed -- on any platform.

Unfortunately, it does not work reliably on linux, which I understand is not fb2k's fault sad.gif
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If running under Wine, ensure that you have a build in the 1.1.x series, as it seems to be quite a bit more robust than the 1.0.x series.
My seekbar reportedly does not work under Wine 1.0.x.


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forgot to say... thank you SO much!!!


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QUOTE (Matyas @ Jan 12 2010, 01:09) *
Unfortunately, it does not work reliably on linux, which I understand is not fb2k's fault sad.gif

What's your problem? Here, on Ubuntu Karmic with the latest PulseAudio and Alsa (from a Launchpad a PPA) and wine 1.1.36, it works almost perfectly. I have two issues: foobar crashes if I do 'Open containing folder' (known bug) and foobar cannot find audio cd's.
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