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MagR
post Apr 17 2013, 18:56
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Hi

Iím a fairly new member and have been getting some good advice on this forum. My first headphones I bought a few weeks ago were the Sennheiser HD650. At first I didnít like them too much. They sounded a bit out of tune Ė especially on piano. Good pianists seemed to be hitting a lot of wrong notes! I thought it might be jitter as I remember from my vinyl days many years ago that wow and flutter (called jitter with digital sources I think) were most noticeable on piano. However the jitter specs on the dac Iím using were fine.

Anyway after a few weeks this ďtunelessnessĒ seems to have disappeared and the HD650ís seem to have more bass and generally sound great. Iím now thinking this might be due to running in or breaking in whatever the correct term is. I thought this was an audiophile myth at first but perhaps there is some truth in it. Has anybody else experienced this with the HD650? Is it just the driver loosening up or might it have something to do with the earcups fitting my head better now?

Iíve now ordered a pair of AKG K701ís which should arrive in a few days and will probably buy the Beyerdynamic DT880ís as well to experience different sound signatures. Will I experience this breaking in with these headphones and for how long or does that vary unit to unit? I looked on another forum and the answers varied widely. Has anyone here got some actual experience with these phones? Again, looking at other forums there seems to be a general belief that the AKG K701ís sound takes a very long time to break in and will be considerably smoother as a result.

Thanks in advance

Mag
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extrabigmehdi
post Apr 24 2013, 16:42
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@probedb
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And more than likely why you thought them bad out of the box. You've read the previous posts on placebo right?

Placebo, would be indeed the most trivial explanation. But it must be the strongest placebo I've ever experienced . I went from a reaction of disgust, to an opposite one.
Unless there's a way for me, to confirm it was placebo; I won't reject any other explanation.

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Extrabigmehdi, you've been here long enough to know better than to offer a logical fallacy of appealing to popularity

I thought that the popularity of the phenomenon, makes it at least worth a discussion. Sorry, if that's not the case.
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post Apr 25 2013, 14:01
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QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Apr 24 2013, 17:42) *
I thought that the popularity of the phenomenon, makes it at least worth a discussion. Sorry, if that's not the case.

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- MagR   Help with headphone break in   Apr 17 2013, 18:56
- - saratoga   QUOTE (MagR @ Apr 17 2013, 12:56) Iím a f...   Apr 17 2013, 18:58
|- - MagR   QUOTE (saratoga @ Apr 17 2013, 17:58) QUO...   Apr 18 2013, 12:02
- - pdq   If you have been told ahead of time that headphone...   Apr 17 2013, 19:05
|- - MagR   QUOTE (pdq @ Apr 17 2013, 18:05) If you h...   Apr 18 2013, 12:06
|- - greynol   QUOTE (MagR @ Apr 18 2013, 04:06) In your...   Apr 18 2013, 19:12
- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (MagR @ Apr 17 2013, 13:56) Hi Iím...   Apr 18 2013, 13:12
- - dhromed   There's no such thing as break-in as far as I ...   Apr 18 2013, 13:15
- - extrabigmehdi   The guy Tyll from innerfidelity measured the effec...   Apr 18 2013, 13:21
|- - Yaztromo   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Apr 18 2013, 12:21...   Apr 21 2013, 09:52
- - db1989   I agree with the general sentiment, Arny. But to b...   Apr 18 2013, 13:25
- - Rollin   Another experience of headphones' "breaki...   Apr 18 2013, 14:21
|- - Nessuno   Here there is a blogger who claims to have measure...   Apr 18 2013, 15:08
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (Nessuno @ Apr 18 2013, 10:08) Here...   Apr 18 2013, 21:29
- - pdq   I'm curious how you would ABX the same device ...   Apr 18 2013, 15:45
|- - DonP   QUOTE (pdq @ Apr 18 2013, 09:45) I'm ...   Apr 18 2013, 15:58
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (pdq @ Apr 18 2013, 16:45) I'm ...   Apr 18 2013, 15:59
- - mzil   ^"inserted in EURI's ear canals , its phy...   Apr 18 2013, 16:13
- - Mach-X   @db1989 not to speak for Arny, bought I *think* he...   Apr 18 2013, 16:35
- - saratoga   Thats a neat test, and I think probably quite vali...   Apr 18 2013, 17:04
- - DVDdoug   IMO burn-in/break-in is total nonsense! And...   Apr 18 2013, 19:33
|- - dhromed   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Apr 18 2013, 20:33) We t...   Apr 18 2013, 19:48
||- - antz   QUOTE (dhromed @ Apr 18 2013, 18:48) QUOT...   Apr 18 2013, 20:51
||- - Nessuno   QUOTE (antz @ Apr 18 2013, 21:51) No, wha...   Apr 18 2013, 22:20
||- - DonP   QUOTE (Nessuno @ Apr 18 2013, 16:20) DVDd...   Apr 19 2013, 01:41
||- - DVDdoug   QUOTE (DonP @ Apr 18 2013, 17:41) QUOTE (...   Apr 19 2013, 02:13
||- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Apr 18 2013, 21:13) If y...   Apr 19 2013, 20:51
||- - julf   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Apr 19 2013, 21...   Apr 19 2013, 22:20
|- - antz   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Apr 18 2013, 18:33) 4. ...   Apr 18 2013, 20:41
|- - Propheticus   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Apr 18 2013, 20:33) IMO ...   Apr 19 2013, 01:07
||- - greynol   QUOTE (Propheticus @ Apr 18 2013, 17:07) ...   Apr 19 2013, 01:43
|- - andy o   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Apr 18 2013, 11:33) 4. ...   Apr 22 2013, 06:38
- - greynol   I've never heard someone suggest burn-in was a...   Apr 18 2013, 19:59
- - pdq   Bathtub curve   Apr 18 2013, 21:25
- - MikeFord   Don't we have some type of acoustic memory, a ...   Apr 19 2013, 00:58
|- - greynol   QUOTE (MikeFord @ Apr 18 2013, 16:58) Don...   Apr 19 2013, 01:37
||- - MikeFord   QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 18 2013, 17:37) QUOT...   Apr 19 2013, 23:11
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (MikeFord @ Apr 18 2013, 19:58) Don...   Apr 19 2013, 20:37
- - DVDdoug   QUOTE Wait.. doesn't that mean you essentially...   Apr 19 2013, 01:45
- - pdq   Where I work we use a factor of ten rule. It costs...   Apr 19 2013, 21:09
- - greynol   Let's not drift any further off-topic. Use the...   Apr 19 2013, 22:24
- - greynol   Ok, that makes sense too.   Apr 19 2013, 23:38
- - MagR   Hi I'm the OP - I've been reading all you...   Apr 20 2013, 09:18
|- - dhromed   QUOTE (MagR @ Apr 20 2013, 10:18) both so...   Apr 20 2013, 10:31
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (dhromed @ Apr 20 2013, 05:31) QUOT...   Apr 20 2013, 16:20
- - markanini   F*ck the effect of break-in. OP is claiming his he...   Apr 20 2013, 20:00
- - greynol   Another term was added to the placebophile lexicon...   Apr 20 2013, 20:52
|- - MikeFord   QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 20 2013, 12:52) Anot...   Apr 21 2013, 10:19
- - db1989   The fact that people are deluding themselves and o...   Apr 21 2013, 12:34
- - andy o   Placebo is not to be loved, but not hated either. ...   Apr 22 2013, 06:53
- - db1989   Iím not denying the existence of the phenomenon, h...   Apr 22 2013, 14:02
- - greynol   I had someone recommend that I candle my ears yest...   Apr 22 2013, 15:58
- - andy o   I agree. It's bad when people take advantage o...   Apr 22 2013, 17:13
- - extrabigmehdi   Well, I thought there could be moisture , dust or ...   Apr 22 2013, 18:17
|- - probedb   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Apr 22 2013, 18:17...   Apr 23 2013, 08:14
- - andy o   One would never be done if one took advice from wh...   Apr 24 2013, 04:40
- - greynol   I don't see how sharing religion from another ...   Apr 24 2013, 06:07
- - extrabigmehdi   @probedb QUOTE And more than likely why you though...   Apr 24 2013, 16:42
|- - andy o   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Apr 24 2013, 08:42...   Apr 24 2013, 17:46
|- - greynol   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Apr 24 2013, 08:42...   Apr 24 2013, 17:53
|- - markanini   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Apr 24 2013, 17:42...   Apr 25 2013, 14:01
- - dhromed   My Senn HD555 was perfect out of the box and remai...   Apr 24 2013, 17:02


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