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laptop to hifi via ethernet cable. Moved to correct forum., General Audio is not your personal dumping ground (TOS #6).
takeshibeat
post Jul 21 2013, 20:37
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im interested in the hifi system marantz mcr 603
i saw that it has an ethernet input
is it possible to connect my laptop to mcr603 via ethernet cable and
listen the music from my laptop(flac-foobar) on my marantz mcr603 system?
if it is will the soundcard from the laptop have any influence on the sound quality of the music
i have heard that if i connect it on that way that i will get the same sound which i would have
if i would listen music on that marantz from its cd player
i know that i can connect my laptop to mcr with an analogue cable,but then the sound would be
different because the cheap soundcard from the laptop would have influence on the sound quality
so its a very important question to me

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post Jul 21 2013, 20:44
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If you're just using the stereo as a DLNA client, then no your PC will have no influence on anything.
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post Jul 21 2013, 21:06
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so then i must buy just an ethernet cable and connect the laptop to the hifi via ethernet cable and thats it
what about airplay
how can i listen on the mcr 603 music from laptop(foobar,itunes) by a wireless way?
do i need to buy something else
can someone explain me please
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post Jul 21 2013, 21:30
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Buy a wireless router and a laptop with wifi.
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post Jul 21 2013, 21:39
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i have a wireless router and i dont know what wifi is
but i have bluetooth on my laptop
are bluetooth and wifi the same?
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post Jul 21 2013, 22:02
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This isn't the right place to ask about computers.
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post Jul 21 2013, 22:07
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ok but i want to know if i can listen the music from my laptop on mcr603 on a wireless way via bluetooth adapter
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post Jul 21 2013, 22:18
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What does the manual say?


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post Jul 21 2013, 23:33
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for what is m-xport input in mcr603?
i think that the answer of that i wanna know all of the time is here-
i found that on marantz page-glossary:
Bluetooth is a worldwide standard for wireless communication, exchanging information between fixed and mobile devices. Marantz uses the Bluetooth A2DP standard to stream music from a mobile device to a Marantz own receiver unit. It uses a dedicated one for the IS301 and the universal RX101 which is connected to the M-XPort. Please see the M-XPort explanation as well.
so if i understand all right i connect this bluetooth adapter to mcr603 via m-xport
and star listen the music from laptop on mcr603

it says music from mobile device
is laptop considered as a mobile device,or are mobile device just i pod,i phone and so one
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post Jul 22 2013, 14:30
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Bluetooth is for mobile devices (phones). See what your manual says about DLNA or ethernet.
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post Jul 22 2013, 16:38
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Please read the manual.

http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/M-...U_EN_UG_v00.pdf

see pages 8 and 30

right there on p 8 it says

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Do not connect an NETWORK connector directly to the LAN port/Ethernet connector on your computer.


Basically your laptop and AVR need to both be connected to a network (via a router).




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post Jul 22 2013, 16:59
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yeah
i talked today with the man who works in this hifi shop which is selling marantz mcr 603
he told me that it isnt possible to connect this hifi to the laptop with the ethernet(lan) cable,
he told me that i must connect my hifi to the router if i want to listen the music from laptop on my hifi
and that is a problem for me since the router is in the upper flat and my laptop and hifi are at the under flat

i think that i forgot to mention that i have wireless internet connection,does that change anything?
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post Jul 22 2013, 17:15
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QUOTE (krabapple @ Jul 22 2013, 08:38) *
Basically your laptop and AVR need to both be connected to a network (via a router).

They can be connected to one another with a crossover cable.


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post Jul 22 2013, 17:26
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what is a crossover cable and what kind of crossover cable
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post Jul 22 2013, 17:30
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google is your friend.

Alternatively, you could try an Ethernet to wifi adapter if you can find one.

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post Jul 22 2013, 18:29
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QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 22 2013, 12:15) *
They can be connected to one another with a crossover cable.

If they are both expecting a DHCP server then that won't work either.
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post Jul 22 2013, 19:31
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This thread is like a nonsense, sorry to be that clear.


@takeshitbeat: You are having a problem with three different subjects, and you're not knowledgeable with any of them.

1st, device connectivity:
The way computers have commonly been connected in a house is via an ethernet cable, connected to a hub, switch or router (usually this last one). With WIFI becoming a commodity (and every router coming with it), the setup has still been a hub, switch or router (usually this last one) connected wirelessly.
Bluetooth is a technology initially developed for mobile devices (handhelds and mobile phones), because it had low battery requirements and short range (about 3 meters or 10 feet). Said that, some high-end laptops had this connectivity, but mostly to connect phones to the laptop.

If you don't want to install an ethernet cable from your room to the router, you need a wireless bridge. (which is the wireless equivalent of a switch). Such device would connect wirelessly to the router, and with an ethernet cable to the amp. (you could also connect the laptop to the bridge, if you wanted...).

2nd, communication protocols:
Devices support different types of communication, from plain file access, to DLNA capable receivers or server, to airplay-enabled devices.
Since I am not knowledgeable about this receiver, and as such don't know which communication protocol it expects, I cannot give an explanation of how you would play music from the laptop to the amplifier.

3rd, audio communications:
Well, you already know about analog audio, and you don't want to use it because you assume it will be low quality enough for you to notice.
Aside of that, there are several ways of digital audio, which include S-PDIF (with an RCA coaixal cable, or an optical TOS-LINK cable), HDMI, and more exotic ways like audio via USB (something strange that existed in some android devices) and USB "soundcards" (which an amplifier could appear to be).


The problem is that not all of these subjects are purely audio related, and maybe not even someone in a hifi shop could answer (especially configuring the wireless bridge). As such, you first need advice given the options, which one could work better for you, and only then, decide how you would make that work.

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post Jul 22 2013, 21:11
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If you can live with a wired connection and your laptop has an optical digital output, you can plug it into the "Aux In (Optical)" on the back of the receiver using a cable like this:
http://www.amazon.com/6ft-Toslink-Mini-Cable/dp/B000FMXKC8

This digital connection will bypass the analog sections of your internal sound card and send the digital data direct to the DAC in the receiver. You'd need to consult the laptop owner's manual to determine if it has such an output. If not, you can buy a cheap USB DAC like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Beach-Advanta...eywords=usb+dac

By the way, there is no guarantee this will sound better to you than the "cheap soundcard" you already have. You'll need to listen to both to decide which one you prefer.
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post Jul 22 2013, 21:18
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QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 22 2013, 10:29) *
If they are both expecting a DHCP server then that won't work either.

I can't speak for the laptop. Did you read the manual regarding the other half of the equation?

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post Jul 22 2013, 22:43
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If you must have wireless, a cost-effective solution is to buy a used/refurbished Apple Airport Express on eBay. You plug it into a power receptacle near your receiver and connect the two using either an analog or digital audio cable. iTunes (or foobar2000 with Airplay plugin) can be used to manage your library and send music to the Airport Express. You can download an app and control everything from your tablet or phone. An added benefit is that you get a wireless network range expander in the under flat.
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