Soundcard digital pathways?, If you skip the DAC are they 'perfect'? |
Soundcard digital pathways?, If you skip the DAC are they 'perfect'? |
Jul 28 2003, 13:27
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I was wondering,
If you use a soundcard's digital out and tell it not to equalize/eax/otherprocessing, is the digital quality 'perfect'? Case in point I have a professional DSP hooked up to my SB audigy's digital out. If I were to upgrade the audigy (not that I have the $$$ but for argument's sake Basically I hear some 'stories' from people that say 'yes' to the last question but I find it hard to believe that the digital ".wav" data from winamp would get distorted by the sound card that's hooked up to it. provided of course I don't use the onboard DAC's or some hardware DSP feature like resampling or spatialisation crap, but Im telling my computer to have all EQ's off and just play back the file. Anyone know the answer here? |
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Aug 16 2006, 00:04
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I am somewhat confused now - Pio said that Hercules do resample. So, my Fortissimo 4 resamples? Some people on these forums told me that this specific card does not resample. Also, the driver allows me to set the output frequency (44.1, 48, 96 and 192) - if I set it to 44.1, does this mean that the card still resamples? Are you referring to this? You can rule out all soundcards by Creative, Turtle beach, or Hercules (exept maybe used with ASIO support, like jrbamford says). The 24/96 soundcards by M-Audio and Terratec support perfect digital playback in Windows 98/me. Not sure about 2000. That was in 2003, there was no Fortissimo4 back then |
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puntloos Soundcard digital pathways? Jul 28 2003, 13:27
AstralStorm Digital should be, well, bit identical.
But..,
Som... Jul 28 2003, 13:36
jrbamford then there is the kmixer and other filters that wi... Jul 28 2003, 14:02
Pio2001 It's very difficult to get a perfect digital p... Jul 28 2003, 21:04
Patsoe QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jul 28 2003, 09:04 PM)It... Jul 28 2003, 21:23
puntloos QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jul 28 2003, 12:04 PM)It... Jul 28 2003, 22:48
jrbamford apparently somewhere on avsforum there is a techni... Jul 28 2003, 22:55
AstralStorm Bypassing kmixer is possible with DirectSound.
The... Jul 28 2003, 23:06
Patsoe @jrbamford: I was re-reading the link I provided, ... Jul 28 2003, 23:40
puntloos
Indeed. I noticed that too.
Im already registrin... Jul 28 2003, 23:58
jrbamford puntloos.. if you can afford possible reinstall i... Jul 29 2003, 00:09
AstralStorm Sorry, even setting latency to 512samples/sec (max... Jul 29 2003, 03:32
puntloos It would be cool if you could switch between the t... Jul 29 2003, 03:37
dgover2 QUOTE Bypassing kmixer is possible with DirectSoun... Jul 29 2003, 04:57
Halcyon Let me try and summarise (please correct if I... Jul 29 2003, 07:55
KikeG Waveout is bit-perfect on Win9X, given that the mi... Jul 29 2003, 08:58
puntloos Bump!
(hah.. 3 year old topic..)
Guys, Im S... Aug 7 2006, 13:46
probedb QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 7 2006, 13:46) Wha... Aug 7 2006, 15:26
CSMR What are you doing with Quad speakers and an Audig... Aug 7 2006, 14:45
odyssey QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 7 2006, 14:46) add:... Aug 7 2006, 15:06
Axon BTW, I have an RME DIGI96/8 PAD, and I can attest ... Aug 7 2006, 15:28
puntloos QUOTE (odyssey @ Aug 7 2006, 06:06) Am I ... Aug 7 2006, 15:45
puntloos Plus oh yeah the terratec DMX6fire isn't being... Aug 7 2006, 15:56
puntloos krt. leave it to creative to be extra-super-fuzzy ... Aug 7 2006, 18:25
Night Rain Never mind. Didn't see the post above. Aug 8 2006, 12:59
CSMR I think all so-called professional or semi-profess... Aug 7 2006, 15:48
probedb Did everyone just ignore me? I mentioned a $2... Aug 7 2006, 16:06
puntloos QUOTE (probedb @ Aug 7 2006, 07:06) Did e... Aug 7 2006, 16:15
odyssey QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 7 2006, 16:45) QUOT... Aug 7 2006, 16:34
puntloos QUOTE (odyssey @ Aug 7 2006, 07:34) QUOTE... Aug 7 2006, 17:38
Rotareneg Creative X-Fi cards let you select the master cloc... Aug 7 2006, 17:43
puntloos QUOTE (Rotareneg @ Aug 7 2006, 08:43) Cre... Aug 7 2006, 18:13
HotshotGG QUOTE Now all I need to do is find out 'for su... Aug 7 2006, 18:42
puntloos QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Aug 7 2006, 09:42) QUO... Aug 7 2006, 18:55
CSMR QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 7 2006, 06:56) Well... Aug 7 2006, 19:04
puntloos QUOTE (CSMR @ Aug 7 2006, 10:04) QUOTE I ... Aug 7 2006, 22:30
master QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 7 2006, 13:30) Sadl... Aug 15 2006, 23:09
puntloos QUOTE (master @ Aug 15 2006, 14:09) If my... Aug 21 2006, 15:39
Patsoe Actually, I think there is officially no such thin... Aug 7 2006, 23:16
puntloos QUOTE (Patsoe @ Aug 7 2006, 14:16) Actual... Aug 8 2006, 00:25
odyssey QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 7 2006, 19:25) For ... Aug 8 2006, 11:36
jvs @puntloos:
Why don't you buy an ESI Juli@? Thi... Aug 14 2006, 23:20
Sebastian Mares I am somewhat confused now - Pio said that Hercule... Aug 15 2006, 23:49
Sebastian Mares Ah, right. Didn't they use Cirrus Logic back t... Aug 16 2006, 00:23
odyssey QUOTE (Rotareneg @ Aug 7 2006, 18:43) Cre... Aug 22 2006, 21:32
puntloos Well I've bought the M-Audio Revolution 5.1.
... Aug 23 2006, 10:33
2Bdecided You know all this bitperfect stuff?
While I agree... Aug 23 2006, 11:14
puntloos I have to make one admission here.. my DAC is the ... Aug 23 2006, 11:33
cabbagerat QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 23 2006, 02:14) If... Aug 23 2006, 13:10
2Bdecided QUOTE (cabbagerat @ Aug 23 2006, 13:10) O... Aug 23 2006, 13:49
puntloos QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 23 2006, 04:49) QU... Aug 23 2006, 16:46

Patsoe QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 23 2006, 16:46) ...... Aug 23 2006, 17:03

puntloos QUOTE (Patsoe @ Aug 23 2006, 08:03) QUOTE... Aug 23 2006, 17:21
puntloos QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 23 2006, 04:49) If... Aug 23 2006, 18:16
Patsoe QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 23 2006, 18:16) Her... Aug 23 2006, 18:32
puntloos QUOTE (Patsoe @ Aug 23 2006, 09:32) QUOTE... Aug 23 2006, 19:22
2Bdecided QUOTE (puntloos @ Aug 23 2006, 19:22) QUO... Aug 24 2006, 13:42
odyssey QUOTE (odyssey @ Aug 22 2006, 22:32) QUOT... Aug 31 2006, 21:14
coburn_c On my X-fi, in "audio creation mode" it ... Oct 6 2006, 02:29
odyssey QUOTE (coburn_c @ Oct 6 2006, 03:29) On m... Oct 6 2006, 09:13
coburn_c QUOTE (odyssey @ Oct 6 2006, 03:13) QUOTE... Oct 6 2006, 14:55
CSMR You will not get bit perfect playback unless there... Oct 7 2006, 03:03
odyssey QUOTE (coburn_c @ Oct 6 2006, 15:55) QUOT... Oct 7 2006, 12:50
CSMR What you have just said would imply that bitmatche... Oct 7 2006, 15:51
odyssey QUOTE (CSMR @ Oct 7 2006, 16:51) What you... Oct 7 2006, 16:18
CSMR Then what happens if you have a bit-perfect stream... Oct 7 2006, 17:44
coburn_c QUOTE (CSMR @ Oct 7 2006, 11:44) Then wha... Oct 7 2006, 18:32
CSMR (Which is that is not compatible with what odyssey... Oct 8 2006, 01:58
odyssey QUOTE (CSMR @ Oct 7 2006, 18:44) Then wha... Oct 8 2006, 16:29
coburn_c QUOTE (odyssey @ Oct 8 2006, 10:29) Just ... Oct 9 2006, 00:26
odyssey QUOTE (coburn_c @ Oct 9 2006, 01:26) I... Oct 9 2006, 14:26
coburn_c What about this card? Oct 10 2006, 04:38
Marvin77 Hmm, interesting.
I found this review
http://ww... Oct 10 2006, 18:46
coburn_c That review was kind of crappy.. but those cpu uti... Oct 10 2006, 22:57
MartinO2 I just wonder, what kind of resampling method is ... May 2 2007, 11:52
eevan QUOTE (MartinO2 @ May 2 2007, 12:52) I ju... May 2 2007, 13:05
IndieRockSteve So is it possible to tell if a soundcard is borkin... May 22 2007, 15:03![]() ![]() |
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