Why does the gauge of speaker wire matter? |
Why does the gauge of speaker wire matter? |
Oct 11 2003, 04:12
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I've read some things discussing speaker wiring such as speaker reviews and their is always something like "the included cables are ok but you'll probably want to go and get something thicker." My question is why do I want some huge python of a cable? And what principles are used to decide what size is big enough?
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Oct 11 2003, 10:29
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There are three major parameters that influence electric conductivity (and thus the sound) of a given speaker cable.
1. The specific ohm resistance (resistivity with the greek designation Rho, SI Unit is Ohm·mm2/m is a material constant which will be multiplied with length and divided by diameter and result in an non-frequency-dependent Ohm Value. At 20°C, the Rho value for copper is: 0,0178 Ohm·mm²/m This pure ohm resistance will neither cause phase shift of the electrical signal nor will it cause a loss in a relevant frequency band. If this resistance becomes bigger, you just lose volume (just like a potentiometer). Only in case of very high currents (some speakers' impedance undershoots 1 Ohm in the low end which will demand high currents from your amplifier), the cable will heat up and thus change its specific resistance and sound. This can happen, but most likely it won't. 2. A cable always states a capacitance (C, measured in the SI unit Farad) which states a complex (frequency-dependent) Resistance RC (RC hyperbolically follows C/f which means that in the low-end, RC gets higher) ... your target should be to avoid a cable with a high capacity (funny thing is that thicker cables show even higher capacities). Capacitance causes a positive phase-shift BTW. 3. Inductivity (I, measured in Henry) is the third major resistance which mostly occurs when winding up cable to some sort of coil ... this resistance is complex as well and affects the high frequencies (RI follows I·f) - a cable with higher inductivity might dampen high frequencies. Inductivity causes phase shift as well, in a reversed direction to capacitance. If you take a look at a frequency crossover network, you will find resistors, capacitors and coils put together to split up frequency bands according to the used chassis in the loudspeaker. As you can see, your cable doesn't need to be thick as long as you do not cover long distances or loading the cable with extreme currents - thick cable will show higher capacitance which might influence bass response in a negative way. Marketing allows a lot of so-called "wonder cables" to be established in the high-end (or high-price) segment - but I think that no one will be able to reliably ABX some high-end Monster cable against standard copper cable of the same diameter (changes in simple loudness due to variation of diameter might be detectable, though). What you might be able to ABX against speaker cable is perhaps some thin wire, used for door bells or telephones .... -------------------- The name was Plex The Ripper, not Jack The Ripper
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mkop Why does the gauge of speaker wire matter? Oct 11 2003, 04:12
boojum If you are driving speakers which require much pow... Oct 11 2003, 04:29
TwoJ I think I have never seen such bending of physical... Oct 11 2003, 04:38
ScorLibran [reaching back 15 years to my electrical engineeri... Oct 11 2003, 06:12
TwoJ Right concept but wrong application, sorry ScorLib... Oct 11 2003, 06:37
ScorLibran QUOTE (TwoJ @ Oct 11 2003, 01:37 AM)Right con... Oct 11 2003, 06:43
AgentMil QUOTE (ScorLibran @ Oct 11 2003, 01:43 PM)QUO... Oct 11 2003, 08:02
_Shorty the longer the cable of X gauge is, the higher its... Oct 11 2003, 08:24
boojum Reading the posts of my learned engineering collea... Oct 11 2003, 11:18
fewtch Baah... I think I want to try $15,000 speaker... Oct 11 2003, 12:56
Pio2001 Speaker cable blind tests :
Placebo at work : htt... Oct 11 2003, 13:53
AgentMil QUOTE (fewtch @ Oct 11 2003, 07:56 PM)Baah...... Oct 11 2003, 14:06
TwoJ What I think most "real" audiophiles wil... Oct 11 2003, 16:03
JeanLuc QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 11 2003, 12:53 PM)But I ... Oct 11 2003, 17:05
_Shorty http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?show... Oct 11 2003, 18:30
sshd There sure is some interesting information about e... Oct 12 2003, 00:05
adamjk Pio2001,
I'm rather observer, but you're t... Oct 12 2003, 01:14
NeoRenegade QUOTE (ScorLibran @ Oct 11 2003, 12:12 AM)[re... Oct 12 2003, 06:03
TwoJ QUOTE However, I noted an interesting thing - ever... Oct 12 2003, 06:16
lucpes QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 11 2003, 12:53 PM)Say th... Oct 30 2003, 14:43
Dex4now QUOTE (fewtch @ Oct 11 2003, 03:56 AM)Baah...... Oct 30 2003, 15:07
lucpes Nice I always wondered why the lights in my house... Oct 30 2003, 15:27
fewtch QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 30 2003, 07:27 AM)Nice I... Oct 30 2003, 16:09
lucpes No, conventional drivers but dipole (open baffle) ... Oct 30 2003, 16:46
Pio2001 QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 30 2003, 02:43 PM)impedan... Oct 30 2003, 20:07
lucpes QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 30 2003, 07:07 PM)QUOTE ... Oct 30 2003, 21:50
Pio2001 Before starting, how do we know that this is the a... Oct 31 2003, 00:01
lucpes ABX result of 2xCAT5 cables per polarity (4x8 wire... Oct 31 2003, 14:00
lucpes QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 30 2003, 11:01 PM)Before... Oct 31 2003, 15:30
Continuum QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 31 2003, 03:00 PM)Should ... Oct 31 2003, 18:32
Pio2001 Thank you very much for sharing your results, Lucp... Oct 31 2003, 20:08
lucpes The offset did not influence the test:
ABC HR con... Oct 31 2003, 20:42
ff123 QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 31 2003, 11:42 AM)The off... Oct 31 2003, 21:11
Continuum I didn't think that you were hearing the offse... Oct 31 2003, 21:33
lucpes QUOTE (Continuum @ Oct 31 2003, 08:33 PM)I di... Oct 31 2003, 21:37
Pio2001 So it is quite a big gauge after all.
24 AWG is 0.... Oct 31 2003, 22:50
_Shorty unless it has protection for those situations, man... Nov 1 2003, 01:54
Mike Giacomelli QUOTE - Although it should be the case - I can tel... Nov 1 2003, 04:49
KikeG High freq. attenuation of CAT5 cable is quite prob... Nov 1 2003, 19:31
lucpes QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 31 2003, 09:50 PM)So it ... Nov 1 2003, 22:04
sshd What type of cat5 cable was used in this test?
I... Nov 2 2003, 00:43
lucpes El cheapo CAT5 solid core type used in the test.
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sshd QUOTE (lucpes @ Nov 1 2003, 10:04 PM)Until th... Nov 4 2003, 00:24
Pio2001 QUOTE (sshd @ Nov 4 2003, 12:24 AM)3. Does th... Nov 4 2003, 00:37
lucpes QUOTE (sshd @ Nov 3 2003, 11:24 PM)It seems y... Nov 17 2003, 15:05
Pio2001 Sorry to hear about this.
Either there was a short... Nov 17 2003, 23:36
lucpes Phew, I fixed it... turned out that the potentiome... Nov 18 2003, 13:59![]() ![]() |
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