R.I.P., The thread for dead CD-Rs
R.I.P., The thread for dead CD-Rs
Jan 18 2004, 08:32
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CD-RW.org the best known place for discussing CD-R media brands has had very few users in the CD-R(W) media forum lately so I thought it would be a good idea to start a new, more accurate thread for dead CD-R media at HA whether it's a success will depend on the users.
If you have more than one brand feel free to post them all.
Use CDR Identifier or Nero Info Tool to identify the real CD-R manufacturer also specify the CD-R manufacturer on the case, box or spindle, drive used to burn, speed, color of the CD-R & burn date would also be useful
CD-R quality can be measured using,
(!) Tops are reported to peel with time
This list may change depending on future findings
DVD-R Armour is a solution for those who find DVD media too delicate (scratches easily), newer DVD-R Armour discs also provide extra UV protection.
The OSTA.org (Optical Storage Technology Association) site has some very useful information & can answer many of your CD-R questions.
This post has been edited by westgroveg: Jan 29 2005, 08:43
Jan 20 2004, 22:48
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I've just bought a Lite-On drive for CD scanning, so here we go
I can't post any ATIP because my drive can't read ATIPs from burned CDRs.
Click on the names in order to see the K-Probe scans. Beware of their logarithmic scaling.
Burned with a Teac 4x SCSI burner, from 1 to 4x in 1999
Maxell CDR74XL, dark blue. Scan aborted because of a read error.
Mitsui SG 74, made by Mitsui, silver.
BASF / EMTEC 74 Extra, dark blue, burned in february 1999, the C2 errors are caused by the TAO burning.
Fnac Gold 74 Dark green, certified for 4x speed. The C2 errors are caused by TAO burning.
Kodak Digital Science InfoGuard 74 , certified for 6x speed, light bottom on gold layer. C2 errors caused by TAO burning.
TDK CDR74 Reflex, dark blue. C2 errors cause by TAO burning.
Verbatim DatalifePlus 74 Very dark blue. C2 errors caused by TAO burning.
Burned with a Yamaha 6416S burner at 6x.
Mitsui Golden Dye 74, certified for 6x speed. Same as the above, but for consumers (the Mitsui SG line was for professionals). All of them (about 20 CDRs) are dead.
Interesting picture, up my first Mitsui Golden Dye, down, my last one.
A scan of the upper one, when the picture was taken, in april 2003, and a scan of the lower one.
Fnac silver 74, pearlized top, light bottom, certified for 12x speed.
HiSpace silver 700MB, dark blue, certified for 12x speed. CD unreadable, scan impossible.
HiSpace Gold 700 Very dark green, certified for 6x speed.
Memorex CDR650 Certified for 8x speed, green.
Ricoh Type 74 Made in EU, light bottom. Scan aborted because of a read error.
Fnac gold 74 Light bottom, pearlized top, certified for 12x speed. The C2 burst is caused by the Lite-On spin up.
Note that the Fnac gold/silver and HiSpace gold/silver were the exact same models :
HiSpace Carbon CD 80. Black bottom.
CDRs burned in 2002 are mostly alive. They are HiSpace Gold and Fnac Gold (both made by MPO), but it's too early to get an idea. Look for example at this other HiSpace Carbon CD 80 limited edition burned in late 2001, compared to the above one.
EDIT : none of the previous Fnac or HiSpace were made by MPO according to the ATIP. But HiSpace were always made by MPO according to the sleeve.
This post has been edited by Pio2001: Jan 24 2004, 03:44
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