-V n (in 3.95.1), Presets, bitrates and lowpass of V value |
-V n (in 3.95.1), Presets, bitrates and lowpass of V value |
Jan 29 2004, 11:38
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Hi,
CODE Switch equals target Y b lowpass resample -V 0 = --preset extreme 240 128 19500 -V 0 --vbr-new = --preset fast extreme 240 128 19500 -V 1 210 128 19000 -V 1 --vbr-new 210 128 19000 -V 2 = --preset standard 190 128 19000 -V 2 --vbr-new = --preset fast standard 190 128 19000 -V 3 175 1 18000 -V 3 --vbr-new 175 1 18000 -V 4 = --preset medium 165 1 18000 -V 4 --vbr-new = --preset fast medium 165 1 18000 -V 5 130 1 17000 -V 5 --vbr-new 130 1 17000 -V 6 115 1 16000 -V 6 --vbr-new 115 1 16000 -V 7 100 1 14900 32000 -V 7 --vbr-new 100 1 14900 32000 -V 8 85 1 12500 32000 -V 8 - vbr-new 85 1 12500 32000 -V 9 65 1 10000 24000 -V 9 - vbr-new 65 1 10000 24000 Questions: 1. Is it save to use the -V switches, with no corresponding preset (especially V 1 / V3)? 2. When is it more usefull, to use abr rather than -V n (e.g. --preset 120 better than -V 5)? 3. Are the displayed target average bitrates ok (+/- 10 kbps)? Thanks Edit: changed with Gabriel's suggestions. Added:-Y, -b, --lowpass, --resample Edit: modified -b to fit with 3.96 |
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Nov 30 2006, 19:22
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 29-November 06 From: Novosibirsk Member No.: 38186 |
Thanx for your support, people
But, as far as I understood, ABX test is based on "blind" listening to audio, but my acoustic system (and perhaps my ears My father offered my to "subtract" original signal from the encoded->decoded one, and then to estimate the "difference signal" remained. Is this method good, how do you think? Are there any software to do that? AFAIK, Sound Forge and CoolEdit can't... Or may be some graphic tests? And one more question. You say spectral analysis couldn't be objective in this way. But if it shows some evident distortions, collapses etc - could they NOT be real distortions of sound and its quality? Especially if they aren't above 20 KHz, but within 16-20 KHz interval? (Of course, I agree that even identical graphs do not obligatory mean identical sound, or sound of identical quality.) P.S. By the way, I did't understand from the FAQ, what does -vbr-new key? P.P.S. Joint Stereo "pushes together" channels, when they spead stronger than in "regular song"... Am I wrong? Does Stereo mode produce better quality? Does it increase filesize considerably? This post has been edited by ThyBzi: Nov 30 2006, 19:36 |
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Vietwoojagig -V n (in 3.95.1) Jan 29 2004, 11:38
Gabriel Nice layout.
QUOTE 3. Are the displayed target av... Jan 29 2004, 12:11
moi QUOTE (Gabriel @ Jan 29 2004, 03:11 AM)Nice l... Feb 26 2005, 21:06
Jojo QUOTE (moi @ Feb 26 2005, 12:06 PM)To get the... Feb 27 2005, 00:40
Dologan QUOTE (Jojo @ Feb 26 2005, 05:40 PM)use LAME ... Mar 6 2005, 20:19
Dologan Is --r3mix still remapped to -V3 --vbr-new in 3.96... May 5 2004, 00:35
Gabriel QUOTE Is --r3mix still remapped to -V3 --vbr-new i... May 5 2004, 08:53
Schinkentoni I just want to pick up the first question of Vietw... May 5 2004, 10:05
384kbps QUOTE (Schinkentoni @ May 5 2004, 10:05 AM)I ... Aug 25 2004, 19:58
2Bdecided The word you're looking for is safe, not save... May 5 2004, 11:02
Vietwoojagig QUOTE (2Bdecided @ May 5 2004, 11:02 AM)The w... May 5 2004, 11:42
Halcyon Vietwoojagig,
don't worry. It's just a si... May 5 2004, 14:15
Dologan QUOTE (Gabriel @ May 5 2004, 01:53 AM)QUOTE ... May 5 2004, 15:22
Vietwoojagig QUOTE (Dologan @ May 5 2004, 03:22 PM)Well, c... May 5 2004, 15:41
Dologan QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ May 5 2004, 08:41 AM)On... May 5 2004, 16:19
Vietwoojagig QUOTE (Dologan @ May 5 2004, 04:19 PM) From w... May 5 2004, 16:24
Tomb QUOTE (Halcyon @ May 5 2004, 01:15 PM)PS It... May 5 2004, 16:33
Dologan QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ May 5 2004, 09:24 AM)QU... May 5 2004, 17:07
Gabriel QUOTE Gabriel, could you please confirm this?
Yes May 5 2004, 17:38
Jebus Wow, that is really interesting. So the --r3mix tu... May 5 2004, 19:16
GeSomeone QUOTE (Jebus @ May 5 2004, 07:16 PM)So the --... Aug 26 2004, 12:26
Squeller QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ Jan 29 2004, 02:38 AM)2... May 24 2004, 12:02
shafff -V2 (lame 3.95.1) gives me 141kbps on film track (... Jun 24 2004, 18:56
westgroveg Does LAME 3.96, -V2/--preset standard still use -b... Jul 4 2004, 02:20
Vietwoojagig QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jul 4 2004, 02:20 AM)Does... Jul 7 2004, 10:29
Gabriel Regarding "target bitrates" related to -... Aug 4 2004, 08:43
Gabriel -V1 is between -V0 and -V2.
I do not know what to ... Aug 26 2004, 08:30
Pio2001 ...so -V1 includes the alt-preset code level tunin... Aug 26 2004, 11:11
384kbps QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Aug 26 2004, 11:11 AM)...so ... Sep 1 2004, 06:45
LoFiYo QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Aug 26 2004, 06:11 AM)...so ... Sep 30 2004, 04:15
Gabriel QUOTE (LoFiYo @ Sep 30 2004, 05:15 AM)I thoug... Sep 30 2004, 11:22
detokaal Would it be possible to add the -q switch to the t... Oct 18 2004, 21:30
Gabriel QUOTE I believe --preset standard is -q 2 whereas ... Oct 19 2004, 09:56
detokaal Rather than ask again - I just checked myself. --... Oct 19 2004, 22:02
freakngoat QUOTE (detokaal @ Oct 19 2004, 09:02 PM)Rathe... Oct 19 2004, 22:19
Gabriel Yes, changing -V is (generally) a better idea than... Oct 20 2004, 08:45
ezra2323 After reading through this thread, I'm still u... Dec 15 2004, 03:51
dev0 QUOTE (ezra2323 @ Dec 15 2004, 03:51 AM)After... Dec 15 2004, 06:12

k.eight.a QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ Jan 29 2004, 02:38 AM)2... Dec 15 2004, 18:32
whcanilang QUOTE (ezra2323 @ Dec 14 2004, 10:51 PM)After... Dec 22 2004, 21:16

music_man_mpc QUOTE (whcanilang @ Dec 22 2004, 12:16 PM)Whe... Dec 22 2004, 21:42
esa372 QUOTE (ezra2323 @ Dec 14 2004, 07:51 PM)Is 3.... Jan 19 2005, 18:23
Gabriel QUOTE I just noticed that http://lame.sourceforge.... Dec 23 2004, 09:16
veikko Hi.
I just registered myself for the first time e... Feb 9 2005, 23:25
schonenberg QUOTE (veikko @ Feb 9 2005, 04:25 PM)Hi.
I j... Apr 5 2005, 08:38

guruboolez QUOTE (schonenberg @ Apr 5 2005, 08:38 AM)Lam... Apr 5 2005, 08:48
Madrigal QUOTE (veikko @ Feb 9 2005, 05:25 PM)Hi.
I j... Apr 5 2005, 13:46
Gabriel A bug regarding -q0 and -q1 has been recently iden... Feb 9 2005, 23:34
kwanbis Garbiel would this fix be backported to 3.96.x? Feb 10 2005, 00:30
Gabriel Probably not as we are not working on 3.96 anymore... Feb 10 2005, 09:51
JEN my hearing is either getting really bad (i'm 2... Mar 6 2005, 20:02
TheStonepedo I fail to understand the b value of 128 on -V 0. ... May 20 2005, 04:42
Jojo QUOTE (TheStonepedo @ May 19 2005, 07:42 PM)I... May 20 2005, 17:20
=trott= QUOTE (TheStonepedo @ May 19 2005, 07:42 PM)I... Jun 23 2005, 12:02
guruboolez QUOTE (=trott= @ Jun 23 2005, 12:02 PM)you ha... Jun 23 2005, 12:22
tycho I believe the -b 32 will override the default (128... May 20 2005, 07:36
latuman Hi!
I'm new to this forum. I registered b... Nov 16 2005, 12:20
Alex B QUOTE (latuman @ Nov 16 2005, 01:20 PM)-V6 --... Nov 16 2005, 13:05
latuman I might be a bit thick, but whats the point using ... Nov 16 2005, 17:27
Gambit QUOTE (latuman @ Nov 16 2005, 06:27 PM)I migh... Nov 17 2005, 00:22
Alex B QUOTE (latuman @ Nov 16 2005, 06:27 PM)I migh... Nov 17 2005, 01:16
latuman So I shall leave that setting alone for portable u... Nov 17 2005, 10:54
DickxLaurent Is there an updated copy of the chart in the first... Jun 19 2006, 03:44
pika2000 QUOTE (DickxLaurent @ Jun 18 2006, 19:44)... Jun 19 2006, 06:59
Alex B I have posted an updated table here: http://www.hy... Jun 19 2006, 04:42
DickxLaurent QUOTE (Alex B @ Jun 18 2006, 22:42) I hav... Jun 19 2006, 05:19
Jojo the minimum bitrate should be removed from the cha... Jun 20 2006, 20:21
ThyBzi Sorry for possible offtopic. I just found this top... Nov 29 2006, 20:36
jmartis Spertrograms are no judge of sound quality. Use an... Nov 29 2006, 21:25
Firon -k will absolutely destroy the quality of the file... Nov 30 2006, 03:27
ThyBzi QUOTE (Firon @ Nov 30 2006, 08:27) Settin... Dec 4 2006, 08:44
greynol QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Dec 3 2006, 23:44) Hmm...... Dec 4 2006, 08:49
greynol -m s isn't such a bright idea either.
Never... Nov 30 2006, 03:29
greynol QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Nov 30 2006, 10:22) Are t... Nov 30 2006, 19:49
pepoluan QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Dec 1 2006, 01:22) Thanx ... Nov 30 2006, 20:28
halb27 To me the main problem is that you seem to think i... Nov 30 2006, 19:45
ThyBzi "(The mere fact that Joint Stereo is used in ... Nov 30 2006, 20:31
pepoluan QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Dec 1 2006, 02:31) ... Nov 30 2006, 20:40
greynol QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Nov 30 2006, 11:31) Or di... Nov 30 2006, 20:58
ThyBzi QUOTE Do you have foobar2000 installed on your sys... Dec 1 2006, 18:49
greynol QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Dec 1 2006, 09:49) I down... Dec 1 2006, 20:03
ThyBzi Thanx a lot, you all just broke down my hasty and ... Dec 2 2006, 12:09
dv1989 2) The new VBR method, faster and reputed several ... Dec 2 2006, 12:23
robert 1 - because it makes no difference for VBR NEW, no... Dec 2 2006, 12:33
ThyBzi Thanks Dv1989 and thanks Robert (an answer from LA... Dec 2 2006, 13:04
dv1989 QUOTE (ThyBzi @ Dec 2 2006, 12:04) But wh... Dec 2 2006, 14:38
dv1989 Wow, LAME 3.98 should be interesting! Thanks ... Dec 2 2006, 12:36
halb27 Before 3.97 development started --vbr-new wasn... Dec 2 2006, 13:49
ThyBzi Thanx for all! I'll try using -V2 --vbr-ne... Dec 2 2006, 17:42
Firon QUOTE You are partially wrong.
In low-bitrate, Jo... Dec 4 2006, 09:49
ThyBzi Thanks again Now I see, LAME is even more clever ... Dec 4 2006, 17:12![]() ![]() |
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