foo_pod - Foobar2000 meets the iPod, iPod -> Foobar2000 0.8 Options

[Iuppiter]

In my case, only the iPod photo is concerned by this problem.
For example, iPod minis are not affected.

[Otto42]

Word on the Apple discussion forums is that this latest update (3.1) also breaks smart playlist functionality. Smart Playlists are no longer "live", they don't update until you sync them with iTunes.

Edit: Apple is aware of the bug, they had an Apple employee post on there (a rarity in the extreme) saying that they had duplicated the problem and were working on it. I expect a new update to be made availble relatively quickly.

This post has been edited by Otto42: Jul 1 2005, 20:52

[Aero]

Word on the Apple discussion forums is that this latest update (3.1) also breaks smart playlist functionality. Smart Playlists are no longer "live", they don't update until you sync them with iTunes.

I noticed that too, but figured it was a foo_pod incompatability.

So are live updating Smart Playlists are completely broken, even for iTunes generated SPs, and the 1.2/3.1 firmware has reverted to the 2G-style static Smart Playlists?

[Otto42]

So are live updating Smart Playlists are completely broken, even for iTunes generated SPs, and the 1.2/3.1 firmware has reverted to the 2G-style static Smart Playlists?

Yep. It shows the static list and doesn't attempt to recalc the SPL, regardless of what the rules are. It's definitely a firmware issue in 1.2/3.1, and it happens with any version of iTunes.

[Aero]

So are live updating Smart Playlists are completely broken, even for iTunes generated SPs, and the 1.2/3.1 firmware has reverted to the 2G-style static Smart Playlists?

Yep. It shows the static list and doesn't attempt to recalc the SPL, regardless of what the rules are. It's definitely a firmware issue in 1.2/3.1, and it happens with any version of iTunes.

Wow...that is really embarrasing for Apple. I can't believe that no one noticed before releasing the firmware (I noticed it the first time I transferred a file, but just figured it was a foo_pod problem).

There are other problems with the latest firmware as well; twice I have had to soft reset my iPod because it wouldn't wake up from a non-deep sleep, and I have noted more temporary GUI lockups than usual, as well.

I'm guessing that there are a few firmware developer and testing jobs opening up in Cupertino today...maybe I should send in my resume!

[Otto42]

To be fair, the only reason you likely noticed it with foo_pod is because your implementation of the SPL's writes the rules only and doesn't calc the static playlist except in certain cases. I think.

So you'd see a blank SPL, whereas users of iTunes would see the static SPL. With the static one in there and that displaying, it's not immediately obvious until you try to change things and notice that the playlist doesn't change accordingly.

[Aero]

To be fair, the only reason you likely noticed it with foo_pod is because your implementation of the SPL's writes the rules only and doesn't calc the static playlist except in certain cases. I think.

So you'd see a blank SPL, whereas users of iTunes would see the static SPL. With the static one in there and that displaying, it's not immediately obvious until you try to change things and notice that the playlist doesn't change accordingly.

So you are saying that Apple should be testing with foo_pod!

Actually, I was not seeing a blank smart playlist with the 1.2 firmware - it just wasn't updating when I added new songs. I don't believe I had the static entries in there, so I'm not sure what was going on, other than the firmware is screwed up.

And yes, I only write the static smart playlists for 1G and 2G iPods, and in a few rare cases where there were firmware bugs that broken dynamically updating smart playlists.

[Otto42]

Well, if you used iTunes at some point, it would have calculated a static list for your SPLs and put it in there. It tends to do that. Then, when using foo_pod, the SPL would be read in, and would include that static list. Unless you recalced the static list or take steps to specifically erase the static list, it'd get written back out as is by the iPodDB functions. So even if you changed the SPL rules, the list would remain the same even after running it through foo_pod.

[drbeachboy]

Aero, so what is the skinny on upgrading at this point? If we mostly use only foo_pod should we hold off on upgrading? Will foo_pod be updated to handle the changes? I'm a wee bit confused on what to do. You & Otto are the guys in the know. Thanks!

This post has been edited by drbeachboy: Jul 1 2005, 22:17

[Aero]

Well, if you used iTunes at some point, it would have calculated a static list for your SPLs and put it in there. It tends to do that. Then, when using foo_pod, the SPL would be read in, and would include that static list. Unless you recalced the static list or take steps to specifically erase the static list, it'd get written back out as is by the iPodDB functions. So even if you changed the SPL rules, the list would remain the same even after running it through foo_pod.

Its possible, but I generally don't let iTunes anywhere need my foo_pod created iTunesDB files. In fact, the more I think of it, the less likely it was iTunes since I haven't run iTunes 4.7 in weeks, and the database version was 0x0c, so it wasn't iTunes 4.9.

[Aero]

Aero, so what is the skinny on upgrading at this point? If we mostly use only foo_pod should we hold off on upgrading? Will foo_pod be updated to handle the changes? I'm a wee bit confused on what to do.    You & Otto are the guys in the know. Thanks!

I would highly recommend that all iPod user hold off on the latest firmware until Apple works out the kinks. The released version of foo_pod should work ok with the 2005-06-26 update, other than things in the Play Counts file (last played time, rating set on the iPod, play count) aren't compatible.

I have upgraded foo_pod to be compatible with the new iTunes 4.9 created database format, but since I reverted my iPod Photo back to firmware v1.1 (due to the smart playlist problem), I don't really want to release something that I'm not personally using on a daily basis.

On the other hand, there is a new setting to create either 4.7/4.8 or 4.9 compatible databases, so I could release it with the default set to 4.7 format databases, and just say that 4.9 is Use At Your Own Risk. But since the new firmware is broken, I don't really see any point in handling the new database format until Apple gets their act together.


Edit: Just to be clear there are 2 separate, but connected, issues:

1. 2005-06-26 iPod firmware update - adds new podcasting related features, but they aren't used unless you are using the latest iTunes 4.9 database format. And the firmware has some serious new problems with smart playlists and crashes/lockups. Also, Apple slightly changed the Play Counts format, which breaks last played/ratings/play count for existing iPod software.

2. iTunes 4.9 database format. Without the 2005-06-26 firmware, there is no point in switching to the new database format. Plus, it is incompatible with all of the existing iPod software.

This post has been edited by Aero: Jul 1 2005, 23:09

[drbeachboy]

Aero, thanks for the update & explanation. I'm really surprised that Apple let that release out with so many issues. I'll stay put until everything is compatible.

[Roninr6]

well since youa re working on an update is there any way I could make a small request.

Is it possible that within the Playlist Editor you can make it so that i can right click and rename playlists. For some reason on my PC the double click doesnt work right. It takes me like 1-2 minutes of constant double clicking to finaly be able to rename the Playlist title.

[jkwarras]

I'm having crashes lately with foo_pod. It happens when long transfering to ipod shuffle or right-clicking on the ipod playlist. Herre's the latest error log:

CODE

Illegal operation:
Code: C0000005h, flags: 00000000h, address: 004212F5h
Access violation, operation: read, address: 7C313431h
Call path:
WinMain=>app_mainloop
This is the first crash logged by this instance.
Code bytes (004212F5h):
004212B5h: FF 15 18 90 43 00 8B 3D 1C 59 44 00 FF 05 10 59
004212C5h: 44 00 C1 EF 03 C7 45 FC 00 00 00 00 74 3D 53 8B
004212D5h: 5D 08 56 8B 4D 0C FF 75 FC 8B 01 FF 10 84 C0 74
004212E5h: 20 A1 14 59 44 00 8B 4D FC 8B 34 C8 8B CE 8B 06
004212F5h: FF 10 8B 03 8B CB FF 10 8B 13 50 56 8B CB FF 52
00421305h: 10 FF 45 FC 39 7D FC 72 CA 5E 5B 8D 4D F8 E8 0C
00421315h: 4D FE FF 5F C9 C2 08 00 55 8B EC 51 B8 F8 58 44
00421325h: 00 56 50 89 45 FC FF 15 18 90 43 00 A1 1C 59 44
Stack (0012F4BCh):
0012F49Ch: EB978A44 00000020 EB978D3C BF985E05
0012F4ACh: BF98F2E0 FFFFFFFF BF8F3BB6 BF8BDE9F
0012F4BCh: 00000003 00000000 004465AC 004458F8
0012F4CCh: 00000004 0012F4F4 004275B5 0012F5FC
0012F4DCh: 0012F4FC 004465AC 10003463 00000000
0012F4ECh: 004465DC 004465AC 0012F678 03AE23AE
0012F4FCh: 004394C4 0012F5FC 0012F6E0 03AE15B7
0012F50Ch: 00000000 00000000 00560372 00000000
0012F51Ch: 00000014 00000001 00000000 00000000
0012F52Ch: 00000010 00000000 00560372 00000001
0012F53Ch: 00000000 00000000 0012F510 00000060
0012F54Ch: 0012F5A0 77D40467 77D18830 FFFFFFFF
0012F55Ch: 0012F790 00560372 00000000 03AE333A
0012F56Ch: 00560372 0000000F 00000000 00000000
0012F57Ch: 006BBB5C 77D1B4CB 0012F790 0012F5A4
0012F58Ch: 77D1B3F9 00560372 00000007 0022021C
0012F59Ch: 00000000 00000000 77D18BD9 77D70088
0012F5ACh: 00000040 0012F5EC 77D1B3CC 77D1B3A7
0012F5BCh: 0012F790 00560372 00000000 00000000
0012F5CCh: 00000001 00000000 0012F5BC 0000025D
Registers:
EAX: 7C313431, EBX: 0012F5FC, ECX: 0C44AF94, EDX: 00000003
ESI: 0C44AF94, EDI: 00000034, EBP: 0012F4D0, ESP: 0012F4BC
Crash location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h

Loaded modules:
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ntdll loaded at 7C910000h - 7C9C6000h
kernel32 loaded at 7C800000h - 7C901000h
USER32 loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
GDI32 loaded at 77EF0000h - 77F36000h
ole32 loaded at 774B0000h - 775ED000h
ADVAPI32 loaded at 77DA0000h - 77E4C000h
RPCRT4 loaded at 77E50000h - 77EE1000h
msvcrt loaded at 77BE0000h - 77C38000h
COMCTL32 loaded at 773A0000h - 774A2000h
SHLWAPI loaded at 77F40000h - 77FB6000h
utf8api loaded at 10000000h - 1000D000h
comdlg32 loaded at 76360000h - 763AA000h
SHELL32 loaded at 7C9D0000h - 7D1EE000h
IMM32 loaded at 76340000h - 7635D000h
LPK loaded at 62E30000h - 62E39000h
USP10 loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
foo_abx loaded at 00A40000h - 00A4A000h
foo_ac3 loaded at 00A50000h - 00A63000h
foo_albumlist loaded at 00A70000h - 00A7B000h
foo_ape loaded at 00A80000h - 00A9F000h
foo_audioscrobbler loaded at 00AA0000h - 00AC0000h
LIBCURL loaded at 00AC0000h - 00AD9000h
WS2_32 loaded at 71A30000h - 71A47000h
WS2HELP loaded at 71A20000h - 71A28000h
WINMM loaded at 76B00000h - 76B2E000h
foo_burninate loaded at 00BB0000h - 00BBC000h
VERSION loaded at 77BD0000h - 77BD8000h
foo_cdda loaded at 00BC0000h - 00BD0000h
MSVCR71 loaded at 7C340000h - 7C396000h
foo_clienc loaded at 00BE0000h - 00BEB000h
foo_console loaded at 00BF0000h - 00BF7000h
foo_custom_sort loaded at 00C00000h - 00C08000h
foo_dbexplorer loaded at 00C10000h - 00C1D000h
foo_dbsearch loaded at 00C20000h - 00C3A000h
foo_diskwriter loaded at 00C40000h - 00C52000h
foo_dsp_continuator loaded at 00C60000h - 00C68000h
foo_dsp_crossfade loaded at 00C70000h - 00C77000h
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foo_filedate loaded at 00CA0000h - 00CA9000h
foo_flac loaded at 00CB0000h - 00CCC000h
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foo_freedb loaded at 00CF0000h - 00D22000h
foo_history loaded at 00D30000h - 00D45000h
foo_id3v2 loaded at 00D50000h - 00D80000h
MSVCP60 loaded at 76030000h - 76095000h
foo_infobox loaded at 00D80000h - 00D93000h
foo_info_samurize loaded at 00DA0000h - 00DBA000h
foo_input_std loaded at 00EE0000h - 00F9E000h
MSACM32 loaded at 77BB0000h - 77BC5000h
uxtheme loaded at 5B150000h - 5B188000h
foo_lirc loaded at 00FB0000h - 00FC3000h
wsock32 loaded at 71A50000h - 71A5A000h
MSCTF loaded at 746B0000h - 746FB000h
foo_massdelete loaded at 01070000h - 0107A000h
foo_masstag loaded at 01080000h - 01094000h
foo_matroska loaded at 010A0000h - 010FB000h
foo_midi loaded at 01110000h - 0119E000h
MFC71 loaded at 7C140000h - 7C243000h
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OLEAUT32 loaded at 770F0000h - 7717C000h
foo_mod loaded at 011A0000h - 011A9000h
BASS loaded at 011B0000h - 0120A000h
foo_nero loaded at 01210000h - 0121D000h
MFC42 loaded at 73D50000h - 73E4E000h
MFC42LOC loaded at 61DF0000h - 61DFE000h
foo_openwith loaded at 01220000h - 01229000h
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foo_out_dsound_ex loaded at 01280000h - 01289000h
DSOUND loaded at 73E90000h - 73EEC000h
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SETUPAPI loaded at 778F0000h - 779E7000h
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foo_playlist_tree loaded at 012E0000h - 01327000h
foo_pod loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
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mscorwks loaded at 791B0000h - 79416000h
fusion loaded at 79040000h - 79085000h
mscorlib loaded at 79780000h - 7998C000h
mscorlib loaded at 79990000h - 79CCC000h
MSCORJIT loaded at 79430000h - 7947D000h
foo_qconfig loaded at 03890000h - 0389C000h
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foo_quicktag_sql loaded at 038B0000h - 038E8000h
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foo_record loaded at 03910000h - 0391E000h
foo_remote loaded at 03920000h - 0392B000h
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foo_scheduler loaded at 03940000h - 03955000h
foo_scroll loaded at 03960000h - 03966000h
foo_send_to_pl loaded at 03970000h - 03979000h
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foo_spc loaded at 039A0000h - 039B1000h
foo_speex loaded at 039C0000h - 039D8000h
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gdiplus loaded at 4EBA0000h - 4ED43000h
foo_uie_albumlist loaded at 03A00000h - 03A11000h
foo_uie_dbexplorer loaded at 03A20000h - 03A2B000h
foo_uie_lyrics loaded at 03A30000h - 03A5A000h
WININET loaded at 77180000h - 77227000h
CRYPT32 loaded at 77A50000h - 77AE5000h
MSASN1 loaded at 77AF0000h - 77B02000h
foo_uie_simple_spectrum loaded at 03A60000h - 03A6B000h
foo_uie_trackinfo loaded at 03A70000h - 03A7B000h
foo_uie_vis_projectm loaded at 03A80000h - 03AC0000h
OPENGL32 loaded at 5F120000h - 5F1EC000h
GLU32 loaded at 5FEA0000h - 5FEC1000h
DDRAW loaded at 736E0000h - 73729000h
DCIMAN32 loaded at 73B40000h - 73B46000h
foo_uie_volume loaded at 03AC0000h - 03ACA000h
foo_ui_columns loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
foo_ui_std loaded at 0BB20000h - 0BB37000h
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foo_vis_bubbla loaded at 0BB80000h - 0BB94000h
foo_vis_manager loaded at 0BBA0000h - 0BBA8000h
foo_vis_samurize2 loaded at 0BBB0000h - 0BBD7000h
foo_vis_simple_spectrum loaded at 0BD00000h - 0BD0B000h
foo_vis_stereo loaded at 0BD10000h - 0BD98000h
foo_vis_vu_meter loaded at 0BDA0000h - 0BDA8000h
foo_wavpack loaded at 0BDB0000h - 0BDC2000h
foo_web loaded at 0BDD0000h - 0BDE9000h
foo_wma loaded at 0BDF0000h - 0BE09000h
WMVCore loaded at 0BE10000h - 0C054000h
WMASF loaded at 0C060000h - 0C09B000h
foo_tbar loaded at 0C0A0000h - 0C0A9000h
foo_text loaded at 0C0B0000h - 0C0C3000h
msctfime loaded at 75160000h - 7518E000h
Powrprof loaded at 74A60000h - 74A68000h
system.drawing loaded at 7B490000h - 7B506000h
system.drawing loaded at 7B510000h - 7B5DE000h
system.windows.forms loaded at 7B610000h - 7B808000h
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system loaded at 7B0A0000h - 7B1CE000h
system loaded at 7B1D0000h - 7B3B0000h
CLBCATQ loaded at 76F90000h - 7700F000h
COMRes loaded at 77010000h - 770E0000h
xpsp2res loaded at 20000000h - 202D6000h
mswsock loaded at 719D0000h - 71A10000h
DNSAPI loaded at 76EE0000h - 76F07000h
iphlpapi loaded at 76D20000h - 76D39000h
winrnr loaded at 76F70000h - 76F78000h
WLDAP32 loaded at 76F20000h - 76F4D000h
wshbth loaded at 74FD0000h - 74FEE000h
GoogleDesktopNetwork1 loaded at 43000000h - 43005000h
Secur32 loaded at 77FC0000h - 77FD1000h
hnetcfg loaded at 66740000h - 66799000h
wshtcpip loaded at 71A10000h - 71A18000h
rasadhlp loaded at 76F80000h - 76F86000h
browseui loaded at 75F30000h - 7602D000h
browselc loaded at 0D750000h - 0D763000h
sqlite loaded at 0DA80000h - 0DAAF000h
imagehlp loaded at 76C50000h - 76C78000h
DBGHELP loaded at 5D4B0000h - 5D551000h

Stack dump analysis:
Address: 004465ACh, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004458F8h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004275B5h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004465ACh, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 10003463h, location: "utf8api", loaded at 10000000h - 1000D000h
Symbol: "uAppendMenu" (+00000000h)
Address: 004465DCh, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004465ACh, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 03AE23AEh, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 004394C4h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 77D40467h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DeregisterShellHookWindow" (+000001CFh)
Address: 77D18830h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetDC" (+00000169h)
Address: 03AE333Ah, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 77D1B4CBh, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+0000018Fh)
Address: 77D1B3F9h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+000000BDh)
Address: 77D18BD9h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetWindowThreadProcessId" (+00000159h)
Address: 77D70088h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Address: 77D1B3CCh, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+00000090h)
Address: 77D1B3A7h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+0000006Bh)
Address: 77D40467h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DeregisterShellHookWindow" (+000001CFh)
Address: 03AF67DCh, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 03AF67C8h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 03AE500Dh, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 03AE333Ah, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 746C0DCEh, location: "MSCTF", loaded at 746B0000h - 746FB000h
Symbol: "TF_UninitSystem" (+00000965h)
Address: 77D318F4h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "UnhookWinEvent" (+00000077h)
Address: 03AF5873h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 77D18734h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetDC" (+0000006Dh)
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 77D18816h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetDC" (+0000014Fh)
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 77D40467h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DeregisterShellHookWindow" (+000001CFh)
Address: 77D18830h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetDC" (+00000169h)
Address: 77D1B4C0h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+00000184h)
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 03AE333Ah, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 77D40467h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DeregisterShellHookWindow" (+000001CFh)
Address: 77D1B4D0h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+00000194h)
Address: 77D1B50Ch, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+000001D0h)
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 7C91EAE3h, location: "ntdll", loaded at 7C910000h - 7C9C6000h
Symbol: "KiUserCallbackDispatcher" (+00000013h)
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 03AE15B7h, location: "foo_ui_columns", loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
Address: 77D1B473h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+00000137h)
Address: 77D194BEh, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetWindowLongA" (+00000061h)
Address: 77D1B42Dh, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+000000F1h)
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 77D1B933h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "IsWindow" (+00000000h)
Address: 77D184FCh, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Address: 77D185A4h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Address: 77D1B3F9h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+000000BDh)
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 5B151AF6h, location: "uxtheme", loaded at 5B150000h - 5B188000h
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 77D18BD9h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetWindowThreadProcessId" (+00000159h)
Address: 77D70088h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Address: 77D1B3CCh, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+00000090h)
Address: 77D1B3A7h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+0000006Bh)
Address: 77D1B3D2h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "DefWindowProcW" (+00000096h)
Address: 5B151B3Dh, location: "uxtheme", loaded at 5B150000h - 5B188000h
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 77D1BB15h, location: "USER32", loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
Symbol: "GetPropW" (+0000003Ah)
Address: 0134025Dh, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h

Version info:
foobar2000 v0.8.3
UNICODE

And the one before (they're a lot of different error logs)

CODE

Illegal operation:
Code: C0000005h, flags: 00000000h, address: 004217F4h
Access violation, operation: read, address: 6E656E6Fh
Call path:
WinMain=>app_mainloop=>menu command: "Components/foo_pod/Delete All iPod Music and Playlists"
This is the first crash logged by this instance.
Code bytes (004217F4h):
004217B4h: 83 EC 1C 89 4D FC E8 92 FD FF FF 84 C0 0F 84 8C
004217C4h: 00 00 00 53 56 6A 01 8D 4D E4 E8 DB CB FE FF 8B
004217D4h: 75 08 8B CE 8B 06 FF 10 33 DB 89 45 08 85 C0 76
004217E4h: 28 57 8B 06 53 8B CE FF 50 04 8B F8 8B CF 8B 07
004217F4h: FF 10 8B 45 EC 8D 4D E4 C1 E8 02 50 57 E8 78 1B
00421804h: FF FF 43 3B 5D 08 72 DA 5F 80 7D 18 00 5E 5B 74
00421814h: 0A 8D 45 E4 50 E8 39 00 00 00 59 FF 75 14 8B 45
00421824h: F4 8B 4D FC FF 75 10 8B 40 04 FF 75 0C 8D 44 05
Stack (0012E958h):
0012E938h: 00EBDCDC 7C9D93A0 77F443DD 7C9D93A0
0012E948h: 00000004 00000000 00EBD1E8 00000000
0012E958h: 004458F4 0EBFD240 00000000 00000000
0012E968h: 00000000 00000000 00000001 0043A1C8
0012E978h: 0043A1B4 004458F4 0012E9A4 00426FE2
0012E988h: 00000008 00000001 FFFFFFFF 00000000
0012E998h: 00000000 00000001 00000002 0012E9BC
0012E9A8h: 004277B4 00000002 002180D8 004465AC
0012E9B8h: 00000000 00000000 01391B44 004465DC
0012E9C8h: 00000001 00000000 01347B90 0C1DBDE0
0012E9D8h: 0000006F 00000000 0012FC30 00000020
0012E9E8h: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012E9F8h: 00000001 013A5D24 013A5D0C 013AA430
0012EA08h: 00000000 013AA11C 00000000 00000000
0012EA18h: 00000001 0000000C 00000002 62AA6FFE
0012EA28h: E2DC3389 00000002 00BDD118 0C1D8180
0012EA38h: FFFFFFFF 013AA210 00000000 00000000
0012EA48h: 00000000 7C3416B8 00000000 00000000
0012EA58h: 00000000 013AA424 0012EB10 0012EA50
0012EA68h: 0012EB14 00000000 00000000 00000000
Registers:
EAX: 6E656E6F, EBX: 00000000, ECX: 0EBFBB04, EDX: 0043B0D8
ESI: 0EBFD254, EDI: 0EBFBB04, EBP: 0012E980, ESP: 0012E958
Crash location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h

Loaded modules:
foobar2000 loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
ntdll loaded at 7C910000h - 7C9C6000h
kernel32 loaded at 7C800000h - 7C901000h
USER32 loaded at 77D10000h - 77DA0000h
GDI32 loaded at 77EF0000h - 77F36000h
ole32 loaded at 774B0000h - 775ED000h
ADVAPI32 loaded at 77DA0000h - 77E4C000h
RPCRT4 loaded at 77E50000h - 77EE1000h
msvcrt loaded at 77BE0000h - 77C38000h
COMCTL32 loaded at 773A0000h - 774A2000h
SHLWAPI loaded at 77F40000h - 77FB6000h
utf8api loaded at 10000000h - 1000D000h
comdlg32 loaded at 76360000h - 763AA000h
SHELL32 loaded at 7C9D0000h - 7D1EE000h
IMM32 loaded at 76340000h - 7635D000h
LPK loaded at 62E30000h - 62E39000h
USP10 loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
foo_abx loaded at 00A40000h - 00A4A000h
foo_ac3 loaded at 00A50000h - 00A63000h
foo_albumlist loaded at 00A70000h - 00A7B000h
foo_ape loaded at 00A80000h - 00A9F000h
foo_audioscrobbler loaded at 00AA0000h - 00AC0000h
LIBCURL loaded at 00AC0000h - 00AD9000h
WS2_32 loaded at 71A30000h - 71A47000h
WS2HELP loaded at 71A20000h - 71A28000h
WINMM loaded at 76B00000h - 76B2E000h
foo_burninate loaded at 00BB0000h - 00BBC000h
VERSION loaded at 77BD0000h - 77BD8000h
foo_cdda loaded at 00BC0000h - 00BD0000h
MSVCR71 loaded at 7C340000h - 7C396000h
foo_clienc loaded at 00BE0000h - 00BEB000h
foo_console loaded at 00BF0000h - 00BF7000h
foo_custom_sort loaded at 00C00000h - 00C08000h
foo_dbexplorer loaded at 00C10000h - 00C1D000h
foo_dbsearch loaded at 00C20000h - 00C3A000h
foo_diskwriter loaded at 00C40000h - 00C52000h
foo_dsp_continuator loaded at 00C60000h - 00C68000h
foo_dsp_crossfade loaded at 00C70000h - 00C77000h
foo_dsp_extra loaded at 00C80000h - 00C95000h
foo_filedate loaded at 00CA0000h - 00CA9000h
foo_flac loaded at 00CB0000h - 00CCC000h
foo_flaccer loaded at 00CD0000h - 00CE6000h
foo_freedb loaded at 00CF0000h - 00D22000h
foo_history loaded at 00D30000h - 00D45000h
foo_id3v2 loaded at 00D50000h - 00D80000h
MSVCP60 loaded at 76030000h - 76095000h
foo_infobox loaded at 00D80000h - 00D93000h
foo_info_samurize loaded at 00DA0000h - 00DBA000h
foo_input_std loaded at 00EE0000h - 00F9E000h
MSACM32 loaded at 77BB0000h - 77BC5000h
uxtheme loaded at 5B150000h - 5B188000h
foo_lirc loaded at 00FB0000h - 00FC3000h
wsock32 loaded at 71A50000h - 71A5A000h
MSCTF loaded at 746B0000h - 746FB000h
foo_massdelete loaded at 01070000h - 0107A000h
foo_masstag loaded at 01080000h - 01094000h
foo_matroska loaded at 010A0000h - 010FB000h
foo_midi loaded at 01110000h - 0119E000h
MFC71 loaded at 7C140000h - 7C243000h
MSVCP71 loaded at 7C3A0000h - 7C41B000h
OLEAUT32 loaded at 770F0000h - 7717C000h
foo_mod loaded at 011A0000h - 011A9000h
BASS loaded at 011B0000h - 0120A000h
foo_nero loaded at 01210000h - 0121D000h
MFC42 loaded at 73D50000h - 73E4E000h
MFC42LOC loaded at 61DF0000h - 61DFE000h
foo_openwith loaded at 01220000h - 01229000h
foo_output_asio(exe) loaded at 01230000h - 0125C000h
foo_output_std loaded at 01270000h - 01279000h
foo_out_dsound_ex loaded at 01280000h - 01289000h
DSOUND loaded at 73E90000h - 73EEC000h
foo_out_ks loaded at 012A0000h - 012AB000h
SETUPAPI loaded at 778F0000h - 779E7000h
foo_playcount loaded at 012B0000h - 012C0000h
foo_playlistfind loaded at 012C0000h - 012CB000h
foo_playlistgen_ex loaded at 012D0000h - 012DF000h
foo_playlist_tree loaded at 012E0000h - 01327000h
foo_pod loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
foo_podclienc loaded at 01410000h - 0142B000h
foo_podtranscoder loaded at 01430000h - 01441000h
foo_prettypop loaded at 01450000h - 0148D000h
mscoree loaded at 79170000h - 79196000h
mscorwks loaded at 791B0000h - 79416000h
fusion loaded at 79040000h - 79085000h
mscorlib loaded at 79780000h - 7998C000h
mscorlib loaded at 79990000h - 79CCC000h
MSCORJIT loaded at 79430000h - 7947D000h
foo_qconfig loaded at 03890000h - 0389C000h
foo_quicktag loaded at 038A0000h - 038A9000h
foo_quicktag_sql loaded at 038B0000h - 038E8000h
foo_read_http loaded at 038F0000h - 03905000h
foo_record loaded at 03910000h - 0391E000h
foo_remote loaded at 03920000h - 0392B000h
foo_rgscan loaded at 03930000h - 0393D000h
foo_scheduler loaded at 03940000h - 03955000h
foo_scroll loaded at 03960000h - 03966000h
foo_send_to_pl loaded at 03970000h - 03979000h
foo_shuffle loaded at 03980000h - 03998000h
foo_spc loaded at 039A0000h - 039B1000h
foo_speex loaded at 039C0000h - 039D8000h
foo_uie_albumart loaded at 039E0000h - 039EC000h
gdiplus loaded at 4EBA0000h - 4ED43000h
foo_uie_albumlist loaded at 03A00000h - 03A11000h
foo_uie_dbexplorer loaded at 03A20000h - 03A2B000h
foo_uie_lyrics loaded at 03A30000h - 03A5A000h
WININET loaded at 77180000h - 77227000h
CRYPT32 loaded at 77A50000h - 77AE5000h
MSASN1 loaded at 77AF0000h - 77B02000h
foo_uie_simple_spectrum loaded at 03A60000h - 03A6B000h
foo_uie_trackinfo loaded at 03A70000h - 03A7B000h
foo_uie_vis_projectm loaded at 03A80000h - 03AC0000h
OPENGL32 loaded at 5F120000h - 5F1EC000h
GLU32 loaded at 5FEA0000h - 5FEC1000h
DDRAW loaded at 736E0000h - 73729000h
DCIMAN32 loaded at 73B40000h - 73B46000h
foo_uie_volume loaded at 03AC0000h - 03ACA000h
foo_ui_columns loaded at 03AD0000h - 03B07000h
foo_ui_std loaded at 0BB20000h - 0BB37000h
foo_unpack loaded at 0BB40000h - 0BB71000h
foo_vis_bubbla loaded at 0BB80000h - 0BB94000h
foo_vis_manager loaded at 0BBA0000h - 0BBA8000h
foo_vis_samurize2 loaded at 0BBB0000h - 0BBD7000h
foo_vis_simple_spectrum loaded at 0BD00000h - 0BD0B000h
foo_vis_stereo loaded at 0BD10000h - 0BD98000h
foo_vis_vu_meter loaded at 0BDA0000h - 0BDA8000h
foo_wavpack loaded at 0BDB0000h - 0BDC2000h
foo_web loaded at 0BDD0000h - 0BDE9000h
foo_wma loaded at 0BDF0000h - 0BE09000h
WMVCore loaded at 0BE10000h - 0C054000h
WMASF loaded at 0C060000h - 0C09B000h
foo_tbar loaded at 0C0A0000h - 0C0A9000h
foo_text loaded at 0C0B0000h - 0C0C3000h
msctfime loaded at 75160000h - 7518E000h
Powrprof loaded at 74A60000h - 74A68000h
system.drawing loaded at 7B490000h - 7B506000h
system.drawing loaded at 7B510000h - 7B5DE000h
system.windows.forms loaded at 7B610000h - 7B808000h
system.windows.forms loaded at 7B810000h - 7BAF2000h
system loaded at 7B0A0000h - 7B1CE000h
system loaded at 7B1D0000h - 7B3B0000h
CLBCATQ loaded at 76F90000h - 7700F000h
COMRes loaded at 77010000h - 770E0000h
xpsp2res loaded at 20000000h - 202D6000h
mswsock loaded at 719D0000h - 71A10000h
DNSAPI loaded at 76EE0000h - 76F07000h
iphlpapi loaded at 76D20000h - 76D39000h
winrnr loaded at 76F70000h - 76F78000h
WLDAP32 loaded at 76F20000h - 76F4D000h
wshbth loaded at 74FD0000h - 74FEE000h
GoogleDesktopNetwork1 loaded at 43000000h - 43005000h
Secur32 loaded at 77FC0000h - 77FD1000h
hnetcfg loaded at 66740000h - 66799000h
wshtcpip loaded at 71A10000h - 71A18000h
rasadhlp loaded at 76F80000h - 76F86000h
browseui loaded at 75F30000h - 7602D000h
browselc loaded at 0D7C0000h - 0D7D3000h
gkh loaded at 0D6C0000h - 0D6D3000h
WINSPOOL loaded at 72F80000h - 72FA6000h
NeroIPP loaded at 0DCB0000h - 0DDBC000h
AdvrCntr loaded at 0DDC0000h - 0DF20000h
mp3PRO_dmo loaded at 26000000h - 26018000h
VqfEncLib1 loaded at 0DB30000h - 0DC3D000h
sqlite loaded at 0D770000h - 0D79F000h
imagehlp loaded at 76C50000h - 76C78000h
DBGHELP loaded at 5D4B0000h - 5D551000h

Stack dump analysis:
Address: 004458F4h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 0043A1C8h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 0043A1B4h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004458F4h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 00426FE2h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004277B4h, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 004465ACh, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 01391B44h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 004465DCh, location: "foobar2000", loaded at 00400000h - 00452000h
Address: 01347B90h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013A5D24h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013A5D0Ch, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013AA430h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013AA11Ch, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013AA210h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 7C3416B8h, location: "MSVCR71", loaded at 7C340000h - 7C396000h
Symbol: "_crtLCMapStringA" (+0000030Ah)
Address: 013AA424h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013AA224h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013AA2E0h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013AA260h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 0139ABD0h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 01348143h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013A3068h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 7C36A5DCh, location: "MSVCR71", loaded at 7C340000h - 7C396000h
Symbol: "snwprintf" (+00000000h)
Address: 013A3068h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 0139AC04h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 01367E08h, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 013C380Ch, location: "foo_pod", loaded at 01330000h - 01406000h
Address: 77EF7F5Ah, location: "GDI32", loaded at 77EF0000h - 77F36000h
Symbol: "ExtTextOutW" (+00000094h)
Address: 74D70480h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D70260h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 7517D545h, location: "msctfime", loaded at 75160000h - 7518E000h
Address: 7517D54Dh, location: "msctfime", loaded at 75160000h - 7518E000h
Address: 74D54700h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D331BDh, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Symbol: "ScriptTextOut" (+00000178h)
Address: 74D70480h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D70260h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D70480h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D70480h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D3D29Dh, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Symbol: "ScriptApplyDigitSubstitution" (+0000861Bh)
Address: 74D70480h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 77EF7F5Ah, location: "GDI32", loaded at 77EF0000h - 77F36000h
Symbol: "ExtTextOutW" (+00000094h)
Address: 74D70470h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Address: 74D3DE46h, location: "USP10", loaded at 74D20000h - 74D8B000h
Symbol: "ScriptApplyDigitSubstitution" (+000091C4h)

Version info:
foobar2000 v0.8.3
UNICODE

So right now I have to make small transfers (10 songs at once), close and reopen foobar to avoid crashes.

Any ideas? Thanks.

PS: using latest version of foo_pod, not updated my ipod firmware to newest and foobar2000 0.8.3.

moderation: please use [ codebox ] for crashlogs.

[gcsherwood]

Help, please, with ipod tags (from metadata tags)...


I'm sure I'm doing something dumb but I can't figure it out. If there is some info out there that can tell me how to use the tags with foo_pod and smart playlists please point me to it so there is no need to clutter up the list....

Anyway, I have a bunch of songs on my ipod. I went through and tagged them with POD_COMPOSER set to irish or english, and POD_COMMENT set to song or instrumental in foobar using Properties. I also tried this with the COMPOSER and COMMENT fields. Any smart playlists which try to look at the fields are blank (no songs). I fired up ephpod and all of the COMPOSER and COMMENT fields are blank for all songs on the ipod.

I tried setting these fields for couple of songs in ephpod and saved back to the ipod -- and the foo_pod generated smart playlists now pick up those fields just fine and work properly. Foobar 'properties' does not pick up the fields I set in ephpod, though, so I'm figuring these are stored somewhere else.

While I could go through ephpod and set all the fields, I already did spend most of a day doing this in foobar and would really rather not repeat the experience. Even more importantly, if I were to do it in ephpod and then had to redownload the songs I think I'd have to do it all again which I'd *really* rather not do.

Oh, and just to make things lots of fun I also set GENRE in foobar Properties. This not only works great for smart playlists -- the values I set show up in ephpod as well. So why don't the ones I set for COMPOSER and COMMENT?

I'm probably missing something obvious, but if someone could help I'd really appreciate it.

thanks much,

Geoff Sherwood

[Aero]

Anyway, I have a bunch of songs on my ipod.  I went through and tagged them with POD_COMPOSER set to irish or english, and POD_COMMENT set to song or instrumental in foobar using Properties.  I also tried this with the COMPOSER and COMMENT fields.  Any smart playlists which try to look at the fields are blank (no songs).  I fired up ephpod and all of the COMPOSER and COMMENT fields are blank for all songs on the ipod.

The key thing here is you tagged the files *already on* your iPod. The iPod itself doesn't use the tags, so you need to instruct foo_pod to rescan the files and update the database. Go to the Components/foo_pod/Maintenance menu and select Update iTunesDB Database on iPod. As the name says, it will update the iPod's database, including the new metadata you added.

Also, the POD_* metadata are only handled by foo_pod, so if you transferred the songs with Ephpod, they would be ignored.

[Iuppiter]

I'm sorry if this was mentioned before, but do you guys know a workaround to get covers on my iPod Photo?
I love it, when it shows a cover while playing a song. One of the strenghts which the colour-display offers.

[antoniost]

I'm sorry if this was mentioned before, but do you guys know a workaround to get covers on my iPod Photo?
I love it, when it shows a cover while playing a song.  One of the strenghts which the colour-display offers.

Yeah, I would absolutely love to have this feature. And I hope when you guys implement it, you'll set it up to transfer album art to the MP3s on-the-fly so it will leave the source MP3s intact, just like you've set up with RG to SC.

[Otto42]

I'm sorry if this was mentioned before, but do you guys know a workaround to get covers on my iPod Photo?

Sure. Use iTunes.

[richard123]

I just loaded the latest version of foo_pod and it does not seem to work. I'm using foobar 0.8.3. I unzipped foo_pod.zip into components directory. When I start foobar, I get

INFO (CORE) : startup time: 411 ms
ERROR (CORE) : Failed to load DLL: foo_pod.dll, reason: Unable to load DLL.

If I try again, it works sometimes. Any ideas?

where can I find older versions? I was using an older version (circa Sept or Oct 2004) for a long while with no problems. I tried re-downloading, etc., with no luck.

This post has been edited by richard123: Jul 5 2005, 22:25

[Iuppiter]

Sure. Use iTunes.

That's a pitty.

[Aero]

I just loaded the latest version of foo_pod and it does not seem to work.  I'm using foobar 0.8.3.  I unzipped foo_pod.zip into components directory.  When I start foobar, I get

INFO (CORE) : startup time: 411 ms
ERROR (CORE) : Failed to load DLL: foo_pod.dll, reason: Unable to load DLL.

If I try again, it works sometimes.  Any ideas?

where can I find older versions?  I was using an older version (circa Sept or Oct 2004) for a long while with no problems.  I tried re-downloading, etc., with no luck.

If it happened all of the time, I would bet that you don't have the require msvcp71.dll on your system. But if it works sometimes, I'm at a loss.

All of the released foo_pod versions (upto 0.6.1) can be found at: http://www.loodi.com/foo_pod_[version].zip. For example, http://www.loodi.com/foo_pod_0.9.9i.zip or http://www.loodi.com/foo_pod_0.6.1.zip

[quazi]

http://www.tinkafoo.com/log/foo_pod.html is an excellent source of information about foo_pod, and might save you 8+ hours reading this forum trying to find the answer to a commonly asked foo_pod question.

Holy crap, how'd this get in the first post?! I guess I have to keep it up to date now.

This post has been edited by quazi: Jul 6 2005, 08:01

[richard123]

If it happened all of the time, I would bet that you don't have the require msvcp71.dll on your system.  But if it works sometimes, I'm at a loss.

All of the released foo_pod versions (upto 0.6.1) can be found at: http://www.loodi.com/foo_pod_[version].zip.  For example, http://www.loodi.com/foo_pod_0.9.9i.zip or http://www.loodi.com/foo_pod_0.6.1.zip

I had msvcp71.dll in my foobar\components directory. When I moved it to a directory in my path, all worked. I guess the older versions didn't use this dll. It does not make sense that it would work sometimes.

Foo_pod seems to work very well with my 2G ipod. With luck it will work better than itunes on my wife's shuffle.

Thanks again for a great program.

This post has been edited by richard123: Jul 6 2005, 12:38

[quazi]

I finally updated my foo_pod user's guide. It includes all the features I could find up to version 0.9.9j (currently the latest version), and a brief mention of compatibility issues with the latest versions of iTunes and iPod firmware.

As for all the "<need information>" entries, I would like to find some more stuff about the following items:

foo_pod / Send All Playlists to iPod
- Is it that easy? just "click, and there they go"? (I'm assuming I should mention the "Select to Ignore Playlist" function here.)
- Does it transcode files?

Preferences / Main / Force iPod Drive Letter
- How does it work, and in what situations would someone need to enable it? I tried it on my C: drive (obviously not an iPod), and the only function I could get to work was "iPod free disk space".

Preferences / Main / Send/Sync Playlist Settings (Create iPod Playlists, Create Randomize Playlists, Custom Format)
- Since I don't use sync (heard it was buggy), I don't really know what this stuff does. I have a general idea on the first one (it creates the same playlists on my iPod as I have in Foobar), but the other ones are a little hazy. And since it has "Send" in the title, I'm assuming it applies to regular transfers and not just syncs.

Preferences / iPod Service / Stop iPodService On Exit
- Why? And what would happen if I closed Foobar, then opened it again? Will foo_pod manually start the service, or will I have to start it myself?

Preferences / Advanced / Console Debug Mode
- I think it controls how much 'stuff' gets sent to the Foobar console (a "verbose" setting), but I haven't found any concrete documentation on it.

Other: "It automatically creates all necessary directories, so that a completely blank iPod can be used without first being initialized by iTunes or the iPod Updater."
-- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that iPods were shipped totally unformatted and the iPod install software does both: formatting and folder creation. (I'm too scared to try it myself.)
-- Is this the "Rebuild iTunesDB Database" function?

foo_pod / Maintenance / Rebuild iTunesDB Database
-- Speaking of which, what's the word on how iPods handle long file names? If I just copy all my files over as they are (with names of up to 107 characters), will it simply not see the files if their names are too big, will it see them but display them all crazy?

Other: Metadata
-- I know of "COPY_TO_PORTABLE", "DISCNUMBER", "DISCCOUNT" and all the "POD_*" strings, but are there more? I'd like to include a list of all available metadata entries.