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foo_pod - Foobar2000 meets the iPod, iPod -> Foobar2000 0.8
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post Dec 1 2005, 21:00
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QUOTE (Aero @ Nov 30 2005, 01:47 AM)
This has been brought up before, and I seem to remember there was a good reason not to make it technical info, as opposed to metadata.  But I'll look into it...
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Maybe if it was something like
CODE
if %_rating%
else %__rating%

ie check meta, if not present use techinfo

Its just that quicktag sql saves all its data into techinfo rather than meta smile.gif
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post Dec 2 2005, 20:43
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I am new to Foopod. Foobar + Foopod seems better than Ephod. Any way, I've got a problem.

I'm using the 30gb version of the newest Ipod (had a 3rd Gen 15gb version before). The transfer with foopod is working fine, but foopod doesn't seem to create a playlist. At least it isn't accessible.



Windows XP SP2
Newest foobar version
Newest foopod version
Via USB

did I forget anything?
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post Dec 2 2005, 23:43
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Is it possible to use the sync function but also transcode files of a different type? The sync function works best for my huge collection but I've got a few albums which I've been unable to find in mp3. I can't add them to the iPod manually because when I sync again it will just delete them. Is my only solution to this transcoding all the non-mp3 files manually before syncing?

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post Dec 2 2005, 23:47
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QUOTE (Spyde @ Dec 2 2005, 06:43 PM)
Is it possible to use the sync function but also transcode files of a different type? The sync function works best for my huge collection but I've got a few albums which I've been unable to find in mp3. I can't add them to the iPod manually because when I sync again it will just delete them. Is my only solution to this transcoding all the non-mp3 files manually before syncing?
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No, sync doesn't work with transcoding.
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post Dec 4 2005, 13:13
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dry.gif interesting things happen from time to time.... loaded some fresh created mp3 to Ipod. While using "loading Ipod playlist" there was the error message cannot parse Itune DB.

Than I could just see the newly loaded files on the Ipod and in foobar...and Itunes could not load Ipod at all ???

Rebuild itunes DB on Ipod solved most of my problems than, except that I had recreate some tags on a very limited number of files, which may be were created with Itunes before... don't remember.

Anyway glad it works again biggrin.gif not sure what happend there...may be latest Itunes software created that problem.
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post Dec 8 2005, 23:38
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ok, i've recently decided that, as i never really listen closely to my music when i'm on the go, and i can't tell the difference in most cases between lame 3.97b2 -V2 --vbr-new and itunes 160 kbps aac, i'd like to replace all of my transcoded-to-mp3 flac files which are now on my ipod to itunes 160 kbps vbr aac. this will save a lot of space on my ipod (which is good, as i'm running out, it's a 15 gig 3g). of course, this means that i have to install itunes 6.0, while i now have 4.8 to keep the good database on my ipod for use with foo_pod. i

'd like to just use itunesencode to transcode my flacs to aac while sending them to the ipod, but if itunes 6.0 were open at the same time as foobar, what would happen to the ipod tranfer, knowing that the ipod was formatted to use the 4.8 and older database?
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post Dec 10 2005, 08:22
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Hi smile.gif

I was wondering if there is any trick or workaround to allow me to use ipod album art with foo_pod. In my testing, the ipod just doesn't recognize that files have the embedded artwork when I transfer them with foo_pod (whereas the same file transferred with itunes does display the album art).

I fear this might be the deal breaker that forces me switch over to itunes - having the album art come up with every track would just be too cool. The main advantage of foo_pod as I see it is the replaygain functionality, but I guess I can accomplish the same thing with mp3gain and itunes.
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post Dec 10 2005, 19:18
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New Transcoding feature request:

ReplayGain values calculated on flac files are different from the RG value calculated on the associated trancoded mp3 file. This different is non-negligible.

Aero, can you add functionality to the transcoder to run ReplayGain *after* you transcode, for example, a flac file to mp3? Of course you would have to add some intelligence around buffering up an album, and then running RG on the album so you can support both album gain and track gain. If the user only wanted Track RG, then you wouldn't have to do this.

Example empirical data:
3 Doors Down - [Away From The Sun #01] When I'm Gone:
flac RG Track Gain = -8.83 dB
mp3 RG Track Gain = -6.02 dB

Thanks!
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post Dec 13 2005, 04:44
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QUOTE (binkgle @ Dec 8 2005, 05:38 PM)
ok, i've recently decided that, as i never really listen closely to my music when i'm on the go, and i can't tell the difference in most cases between lame 3.97b2 -V2 --vbr-new and itunes 160 kbps aac, i'd like to replace all of my transcoded-to-mp3 flac files which are now on my ipod to itunes 160 kbps vbr aac.  this will save a lot of space on my ipod (which is good, as i'm running out, it's a 15 gig 3g).  of course, this means that i have to install itunes 6.0, while i now have 4.8 to keep the good database on my ipod for use with foo_pod.  i

I'd like to just use itunesencode to transcode my flacs to aac while sending them to the ipod, but if itunes 6.0 were open at the same time as foobar, what would happen to the ipod tranfer, knowing that the ipod was formatted to use the 4.8 and older database?
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anybody have an answer to how this might work?
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post Dec 13 2005, 12:37
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i've been having problems with my ipod 4G 40Gb i transferred alll my songs using foo_pod (roughly 7,500 or so) to begin with they seemed to play fine however recently i've noticed that there are many tracks which just won't play, my ipod just skips them entierly (fast fowarding through the song doesn't help), this seems to have happened to at least 500 probably more of the songs. I tried formatting then resending them but only to get the same issue. What's weird though is that if i load the songs on foobar2000 i can play them without any problem on my computer through foobar2000.
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post Dec 13 2005, 14:10
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QUOTE (binkgle @ Dec 8 2005, 05:38 PM)
ok, i've recently decided that, as i never really listen closely to my music when i'm on the go, and i can't tell the difference in most cases between lame 3.97b2 -V2 --vbr-new and itunes 160 kbps aac, i'd like to replace all of my transcoded-to-mp3 flac files which are now on my ipod to itunes 160 kbps vbr aac.  this will save a lot of space on my ipod (which is good, as i'm running out, it's a 15 gig 3g).  of course, this means that i have to install itunes 6.0, while i now have 4.8 to keep the good database on my ipod for use with foo_pod.  i

'd like to just use itunesencode to transcode my flacs to aac while sending them to the ipod, but if itunes 6.0 were open at the same time as foobar, what would happen to the ipod tranfer, knowing that the ipod was formatted to use the 4.8 and older database?
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Why don't you just try it? First go through all the ipod settings in iTunes 6 and make sure auto transfer and the like are turned off.

Also, you might try ABX'ing 128k vbr aac. You might be able to save even more space.
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post Dec 15 2005, 00:56
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i just bought a new ipod nano 4g for my girl. As a long time critic of iTunes the first thing i did was download the foo_pod plug. My music is all in .mpc format so i also installed the transcoder plugin.

it almost all works, Foobar transcodes the file and writes it to the ipod with a long numerical name that has all tags complete, the only problem is that the ipod does not "see" the file and therefore it cannot be played.
can anyone give me some clue as to what i have not done or what i am doing wrong?
thanks
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post Dec 15 2005, 04:18
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QUOTE (n00b @ Dec 14 2005, 07:56 PM)
i just bought a new ipod nano 4g for my girl. As a long time critic of iTunes the first thing i did was download the foo_pod plug. My music is all in .mpc format so i also installed the transcoder plugin.

it almost all works, Foobar transcodes the file and writes it to the ipod with a long numerical name that has all tags complete, the only problem is that the ipod does not "see" the file and therefore it cannot be played.
can anyone give me some clue as to what i have not done or what i am doing wrong?
thanks
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It takes a little while to figure out all the nuances with foo_pod, especially with transcoding. Try to rebuild the database from the foo_pod menu. If that doesn't work and if you don't have much on there already, delete the DB and try again with just one song and see if that works.

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post Dec 15 2005, 08:42
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hey Red thanks for your reply,
i couldnt find the option to rebuild the database so i deleted it from the iTunes folder on the iPod, i then sent an mpc file and although the file was correctly transcoded and written the iTunesDB file was NOT re-created, so i tried sending an mp3 to take transcoding out of the equation and again no joy.
there must be something i am missing.
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post Dec 15 2005, 15:25
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QUOTE (n00b @ Dec 15 2005, 03:42 AM)
hey Red thanks for your reply,
i couldnt find the option to rebuild the database so i deleted it from the iTunes folder on the iPod, i then sent an mpc file and although the file was correctly transcoded and written the iTunesDB file was NOT re-created, so i tried sending an mp3 to take transcoding out of the equation and again no joy.
there must be something i am missing.
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Don't play too much with the files on the iPod directly.

What version of foo_pod do you have? I'm presuming the latest.

I'm not at home right now, so I don't have the menu mapping in front of me, but if you go here http://www.tinkafoo.com/log/foo_pod.html you'll find out how to do it. First thing I would do is to delete the DB entirely, transcode one file to the Ipod and see if it shows up (btw, are you getting any errors from the transcoding process in the foobar console?). If the file doesn't show up, then rebuild the DB and then see if it shows up. If that still doesn't work, then I'm out of options wink.gif.
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post Dec 16 2005, 01:11
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Ok,
looks like we've had a breakthrough, i enabled disk mode in iTunes before closing it for the last time, and then found the foo_pod under the COMPONENTS menu in foobar, after rebuilding the ipod dB everything works 100%.

Ipod nano Ver1.0
iTunes Ver 6
foobar v0.8.3
foo_pod 0.9.9m

Thanks again for your help Red Baron
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post Dec 16 2005, 01:54
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I am having quite the time trying to get foo_pod to work correctly.

iPod: 4g 60gb iPhoto
iTunes: 4.7.0.42
iPodSoftware: 1.1

iPod is freshly formatted
iTunes has no files
iPod is set up for disk mode

FooBar2000 .83
foo_pod.9
7990 Flac Files

I have read all of the post here as well as other help guides. I have everything installed in the compnets directory of FooBar. When I go to the foo_pod preferences I can see the iPod and I can update the database, but I can only see maitenance and under the components menu/foo_pod. I dont se anything else. Also I get transcoding errors when I try and send a file to the iPod.

Any help will be greatly appreciated...

Mark
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post Dec 16 2005, 02:50
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I've got an iPod Mini with the latest firmware installed. I've been using iTunes 6 to sync it, but I'm interested in trying foopod. I'm a little worried because back when I was following this thread there were issues with newer versions of the firmware (am I using the right word here?). I used ephpod with my mini a few times and it completely fucked a lot of things up, causing me to have to revert the pod back to factory settings and start from scratch. So before I install foopod I just want to know what I should expect and if there are any issues with newer firmware and such. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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post Dec 16 2005, 17:08
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QUOTE (Sandman2012 @ Dec 15 2005, 09:50 PM)
I've got an iPod Mini with the latest firmware installed. I've been using iTunes 6 to sync it, but I'm interested in trying foopod. I'm a little worried because back when I was following this thread there were issues with newer versions of the firmware (am I using the right word here?). I used ephpod with my mini a few times and it completely fucked a lot of things up, causing me to have to revert the pod back to factory settings and start from scratch. So before I install foopod I just want to know what I should expect and if there are any issues with newer firmware and such. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Why do you want to move from iTunes?
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QUOTE (likestogofast @ Dec 15 2005, 08:54 PM)
I am having quite the time trying to get foo_pod to work correctly.

iPod: 4g 60gb iPhoto
iTunes: 4.7.0.42
iPodSoftware: 1.1

iPod is freshly formatted
iTunes has no files
iPod is set up for disk mode

FooBar2000 .83
foo_pod.9
7990 Flac Files

I have read all of the post here as well as other help guides. I have everything installed in the compnets directory of FooBar. When I go to the foo_pod preferences I can see the iPod and I can update the database, but I can only see maitenance and    under the components menu/foo_pod. I dont se anything else. Also I get transcoding errors when I try and send a file to the iPod.

Any help will be greatly appreciated...

Mark
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First let's start with the transcoding issue, can you copy&paste the error you're getting here?
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QUOTE (n00b @ Dec 15 2005, 08:11 PM)
Ok,
looks like we've had a breakthrough, i enabled disk mode in iTunes before closing it for the last time, and then found the foo_pod under the COMPONENTS menu in foobar, after rebuilding the ipod dB everything works 100%.

Ipod nano Ver1.0
iTunes Ver 6
foobar v0.8.3
foo_pod 0.9.9m

Thanks again for your help Red Baron
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Awesome!
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post Dec 16 2005, 17:43
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QUOTE (ReD-BaRoN @ Dec 16 2005, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE (likestogofast @ Dec 15 2005, 08:54 PM)
I am having quite the time trying to get foo_pod to work correctly.

iPod: 4g 60gb iPhoto
iTunes: 4.7.0.42
iPodSoftware: 1.1

iPod is freshly formatted
iTunes has no files
iPod is set up for disk mode

FooBar2000 .83
foo_pod.9
7990 Flac Files

I have read all of the post here as well as other help guides. I have everything installed in the compnets directory of FooBar. When I go to the foo_pod preferences I can see the iPod and I can update the database, but I can only see maitenance and    under the components menu/foo_pod. I dont se anything else. Also I get transcoding errors when I try and send a file to the iPod.

Any help will be greatly appreciated...

Mark
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First let's start with the transcoding issue, can you copy&paste the error you're getting here?
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I will gather all information and generate screen captures to fully illustrate my problem in a few days.

In addition, I am correct in assuming one can successfully revert to an older version of iPod updater by editing the iPod's sys file and re-installing the correct iPod updater for use with Foo_Pod?

Thanks for your help and expect to see my posting of screen captures and error generations.

Mark
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QUOTE (likestogofast @ Dec 16 2005, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (ReD-BaRoN @ Dec 16 2005, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE (likestogofast @ Dec 15 2005, 08:54 PM)
I am having quite the time trying to get foo_pod to work correctly.

iPod: 4g 60gb iPhoto
iTunes: 4.7.0.42
iPodSoftware: 1.1

iPod is freshly formatted
iTunes has no files
iPod is set up for disk mode

FooBar2000 .83
foo_pod.9
7990 Flac Files

I have read all of the post here as well as other help guides. I have everything installed in the compnets directory of FooBar. When I go to the foo_pod preferences I can see the iPod and I can update the database, but I can only see maitenance and    under the components menu/foo_pod. I dont se anything else. Also I get transcoding errors when I try and send a file to the iPod.

Any help will be greatly appreciated...

Mark
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First let's start with the transcoding issue, can you copy&paste the error you're getting here?
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In addition, I am correct in assuming one can successfully revert to an older version of iPod updater by editing the iPod's sys file and re-installing the correct iPod updater for use with Foo_Pod?
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I don't know about that, maybe someone else can comment. Have you tried to downrev without messing with the iPod's sys file?
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Hey, i've got a problem, i've been trying to get these smart playlists to work on my iPod but they just won't.. When I look for playlists on my iPod, the SPL's show up, but they're completely empty. They do show up with their respective content in foobar when i choose [components --> foo_pod --> load ipod smart playlists as tabs] however.
I think I tried everything possible, so i'm basically at loss here. Can anyone explain how i can get these smart playlists to work on my ipod?

I have a 3g iPod (v2.3) and use the latest version of foo_pod (iTunes 4.9 compatible).

Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated!

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QUOTE (ReD-BaRoN @ Dec 16 2005, 08:08 AM)
QUOTE (Sandman2012 @ Dec 15 2005, 09:50 PM)
I've got an iPod Mini with the latest firmware installed. I've been using iTunes 6 to sync it, but I'm interested in trying foopod. I'm a little worried because back when I was following this thread there were issues with newer versions of the firmware (am I using the right word here?). I used ephpod with my mini a few times and it completely fucked a lot of things up, causing me to have to revert the pod back to factory settings and start from scratch. So before I install foopod I just want to know what I should expect and if there are any issues with newer firmware and such. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Why do you want to move from iTunes?
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Curiousity, trying out new things.

That doesn't answer my questions though. sad.gif
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