List of recommended MPC settings |
List of recommended MPC settings |
Jun 2 2002, 16:41
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These settings require Musepack MPC 1.1 or later.
mppenc 1.16 is the recommended encoder version, mppdec 1.95e is the recommended decoder version. Download them at Musepack.net. ------------------------------------------------- Recommended encoder settings ------------------------------------------------- --quality 5 (Previously "--standard", ~170 kbit/s, typical 142 ... 184) --quality 6 (Previously "--xtreme", ~200 kbit/s, typical 168 ... 212) --quality 7 (Previously "--insane", ~220 kbit/s) Note that --quality 5 is transparent for most test samples. Higher settings can provide a quality headroom, however, you should start off with 5. Custom settings: --quality x.xx Example: --quality 5.55 . The range goes from 0.00 (worst) to 10.00 (best). The switch --xlevel doesn't need to be specified anymore, it's a default setting since mppenc 1.15s. Don't use any further switches to "tweak" the quality. Some of them no longer work or have undesired effects on quality. Meanings of older tweaking switches may have completely changed. Just use the --quality switch for fine-tuning, that's the best way. ------------------------------------------------- Recommended EAC / MPC Batch Encoder settings ------------------------------------------------- EAC: Exact Audio Copy Compression Options -> External Compression -> Use external program for compression Parameter passing scheme: "User Defined Encoder" Use file extension: .mpc Program, including path: C:\MPC\mppenc.exe Additional command line options (example): --quality 6 --artist "%a" --title "%t" --album "%g" --year "%y" --track "%n" --genre "%m" %s Copy the whole line into that option field in EAC. For comments, add this switch before %s: --comment "blabla" Example: (...) --genre "%m" --comment "EAC secure" %s The MPCs will automatically get APEv2 tags, so "Add ID3 tag" must be turned off. ID3v1 tags could be used, but they are length-limited. ID3v2 tags are not compatible with MPC! It's also recommended to use "Secure mode" in "Extraction method", because if you have a rip with a lot of clicks in it, what good is the MPC quality? (Only for mppenc 1.14 and older encoder versions: Add "--xlevel" after "--quality 6".) Simple guide with screenshots Encoding switch for the MPC Batch Encoder frontend: (an easier way would be to use foobar2000 instead) --quality x.xx Example: --quality 6 The frontend can also take care of proper tagging. In case this was done by EAC, you can then apply ReplayGain: Replaygain commandline with the MPC Batch Encoder + Replaygain.exe: --auto (What is ReplayGain good for? / ReplayGain FAQ) Decoding switches / MPC to WAV (i.e. with the MPC Batch Encoder frontend + mppdec.exe): For albums: --gain 1 --prev (or --gain 3 --prev) For compilations: --gain 0 --prev (or --gain 2 --prev) Or use foobar2000. It's a good idea to apply ReplayGain first (see above and further below). Explanations of the switches: --prev: Activate clipping prevention. (Clipping occurs when the amplitude of a sound is above the maximum allowed level, i.e. when it is too loud to be recorded/reproduced. Clipping causes sound to distort.) --gain 0: No usage of replaygain. Together with --prev: Title-based clipping prevention. The loudness of each song is reduced individually to the point where no song is clipping. --gain 1: No usage of replaygain. Together with --prev: Album-based clipping prevention. Each song of an album is attenuated by the same amount and no song has clipping. --gain 2: Title-based replaygain, rest like 0. --gain 3: Album-based replaygain, rest like 1. ------------------------------------------------- Recommended Winamp 2.x plug-in settings ------------------------------------------------- You should use foobar2000 for maximum flexibility, also concerning Replaygain. However, here's how to make it work in Winamp: in_mpc 0.99g is the recommended Winamp plug-in: Download here Settings: (In Winamp, press "CTRL-P" (Preferences), go to "Plug-ins" -> "Input", select the MPC plug-in and press "Configure"): Equalizing by [x] Musepack Winamp's own equalizer attenuates high frequencies. Dynamic range: 6 dB Range of the equalizer: -6 to +6 dB Headroom "K-14" Headroom is needed to avoid clipping and oversaturated sound. K-14 is the best choice for home listening (see Level Practices Part I and Level Practices Part II, K-System explained). ReplayGain'ed MPCs at K-14 will have the same perceived loudness as other formats with applied ReplayGain - such as Ogg Vorbis or MP3 - with the recommended reference volume of 89 dB. [x] Dither output What is dither? [ReplayGain title based | ClipProtect Off] or [ReplayGain album based | ClipProtect Off] Use title-based ReplayGain for a "radio-like" listening environment (all songs will have a comparable loudness). Use album-based ReplayGain for an "album-by-album" listening environment (different albums will have a comparable loudness, but volume differences between single songs of an album are preserved). Replaygain You have to apply ReplayGain to your MPC files for this to work. The Winamp plug-in will read out the ReplayGain information and use it for title-based or album-based playback. Applying ReplayGain is easy: First you have to download the MPC decoder and the Replaygain tool from Musepack.net. Then, the MPC Batch Encoder. It's easier with foobar2000, by the way. Extract everything to one folder, start the frontend and go to the "ReplayGain" tab. In the "Switches" field, enter --auto . Then add the folder with the MPC files. Important: For correct album gain calculation, only apply ReplayGain to one album at a time (put each album into a seperate folder). Getting a "can't decode file" error with Replaygain? Make sure mppdec.exe is in the same directory as replaygain.exe. How To... 1) ...recursively go through a directory structure and apply ReplayGain to all MPC files, considering each directory as an individual album ? Use foobar2000, or: Download Sweep and the Replaygain tool. Extract them to your path (e.g. C:\Windows). In a command-line window (so-called DOS-box), type: sweep replaygain --smart --auto *.mpc Already replaygained albums will be skipped, due to the --smart option. Sweep starts to scan in the current directory of the DOS-box, going through all subdirectories. To process only a specific path, use the well-known DOS commands to go to that directory (for instance cd "c:\mpc\my downloads\") and then use the command sweep replaygain --smart --auto *.mpc to process all subdirectories from there. 2) ...create replaygain.txt files for a lot albums in one step, considering each directory as an individual album ? Create a file called "replaygain.bat" with the following contents: replaygain --listallreport *.mpc > "replaygain --auto album.txt" Copy this file into your Windows directory. This *.bat file needs to be created only once in your life... So don't worry... Now the procedure: - Open a DOS-Box, go to the main folder/directory where the albums are located. - type: sweep replaygain.bat and press Return A file ' replaygain --auto album.txt ' will be created in each album-folder. That's it! ------------------------------------------------- Useful links ------------------------------------------------- [ Latest MPC compiles ] Musepack.net: Official page, downloads & source code [ Exact Audio Copy ] The best CD grabbing software, period. Official site [ Ripping guides for EAC & MPC ] Simple EAC guide for MPC General Tutorials for EAC users' Tutorials for EAC, MPC & Lossless The Essential Audio & EAC guide EAC forum EAC Offsetbase AccurateRip Drive Offsets [ MPC Frontends ] foobar2000 - Player, frontend, it's the best. MuseDrop, drag&drop encoding/decoding Speek's Frontend, batch encoding, decoding & ReplayGain Monkey's Audio is a good frontend for MPC, too. [ Renaming / Tagging / Music Database] Tag, a very powerful tagger Tag Frontend CDIndexer : for CD-Audio & data-CDs MAC: MPEG Audio Collection 2.92 MAC 2.93 How To... ..convert ID3v2 tags to APEv2 tags: Use Tag & Tag Frontend with the switches --force ape2 --removeid3v2 in "other options" (remove all other checkmarks). Directly from a command-line window: Tag *.mpc --force ape2 --removeid3v2 Or use foobar2000. ..transcode MPC to MP3 while keeping tags? Not recommended for quality reasons, quality will degrade! It can be done with foobar2000 though. [ ReplayGain, lossless normalizing ] ReplayGain information page [ Useful tools ] MPC filter for CoolEdit / Adobe Audition Mr QuestionMan EncSpot Tool for ABXing, Blind listening tests ABC/HR, blind listening tests Training of musically listening good-ear.com QuickSFV - SFV and MD5 checksums for files ------------------------------------------------- Credits ------------------------------------------------- A big thanks to all MPC developers for making one kickass MPC codec, the best lossy codec in the world. Idea, original post and list of original settings collected by user, Layout & additional work by CiTay, SNYder and Dibrom. This post has been edited by CiTay: Nov 13 2006, 16:25 |
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Sep 24 2002, 22:30
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 873 Joined: 12-October 01 From: the great wide open Member No.: 277 |
at the moment I don't think that mpc is capable of 5.1 multichannel.
Perhaps it is planned for SV8, next bigger release... What you can do: Headac3he or Besweet: DS2 or normal Surround Downmix, 5.1 ac3 to stereo wave/mp3/ogg and mpc of course ! Bitrate --quality 5 (standard) or higher... -------------------- www.High-Quality.ch.vu -- High Quality Audio Archiving Tutorials
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user List of recommended MPC settings Jun 2 2002, 16:41
CiTay Added a small tutorial on how to apply ReplayGain. Aug 7 2002, 18:30
guruboolez I experiment a similar thing with my castanet ABX ... Aug 9 2002, 15:33
ff123 QUOTE Originally posted by guruboolez
I experimen... Aug 9 2002, 15:53
user I have added links to Easy MD5 Creator, MPCxchange... Aug 23 2002, 14:33
user MPCscan - Check a directory for corrupted mpc/mp+ ... Sep 15 2002, 12:00
user Case, can u explain how to use mpcscan ?
quick an... Sep 15 2002, 20:39
Somebody There is no need to copy mpcscan to a specific dir... Sep 15 2002, 23:25
user *
* url updated.
Thanks to smok3, who told me abo... Sep 17 2002, 22:45
user Musepack in English and German / Deutsch
added Sep 22 2002, 19:01
JEN So how do you get a 5.1 wav to 5.1 mpc?
whats the... Sep 24 2002, 22:24
ProtectYaNeck36 are there any advantages to using the --quality x.... Sep 24 2002, 23:40
user The advantage of --quality x.yz is, that you can u... Sep 26 2002, 19:17
user High Quality +
Previously "--xtreme". Pr... Sep 26 2002, 21:28
user added
How To :
Recursively traverse a directory s... Sep 27 2002, 16:52
CiTay Sorry user, the method was not really correct, bec... Sep 27 2002, 17:18
GeSomeone QUOTE (user @ Sep 26 2002 - 08:17 PM)with wor... Sep 27 2002, 17:46
user yea, better, I found that first way here in an act... Sep 27 2002, 21:40
user added an explanation for navigating command-line-w... Sep 28 2002, 09:25
CiTay Overhauled the text a little. Sep 28 2002, 14:00
CiTay Improved layout a bit and made the "decoding ... Oct 17 2002, 04:16
CiTay New recommended encoder version: MPC 1.12
Also mo... Oct 17 2002, 14:56
user added link to ***
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edit: no links to ripping g... Oct 24 2002, 13:23
WaldoMonster Because MPC plays perfectly gapless, I use separat... Oct 24 2002, 13:58
CiTay QUOTE Will --xlevel destroy the music level by Liv... Oct 24 2002, 14:36
WaldoMonster Hello Citay,
Thanks for the clear answers.
Now I ... Oct 24 2002, 14:42
Andavari QUOTE (user @ Sep 28 2002 - 02:25 AM)How To..... Oct 25 2002, 23:18
guruboolez http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/files/Sweep.zip Oct 25 2002, 23:42
Case QUOTE (Andavari @ Oct 26 2002 - 01:18 AM)QUOT... Oct 25 2002, 23:43
CiTay Andavari, did you have an old version of the list?... Oct 25 2002, 23:51
CiTay New recommended encoder version: mppenc 1.14
Test... Oct 27 2002, 15:05
CiTay New:
- How to add comments to tags
- Quick ... Nov 2 2002, 21:33
Andavari QUOTE (CiTay @ Oct 25 2002 - 04:51 PM)Andavar... Nov 3 2002, 00:01
ProtectYaNeck36 would someone be able to point me to some papers w... Nov 20 2002, 17:36
liekloo heh. That's a cute guide Nov 20 2002, 19:17
cmokruhl How about some links for the latest Linux builds? ... Nov 21 2002, 02:13
SK1 Case's MPC site of course... Nov 21 2002, 02:29
Q! QUOTE (user @ Jun 2 2002 - 05:41 PM)(What is ... Nov 23 2002, 22:45
CiTay QUOTE (Q! @ Nov 23 2002 - 10:45 PM)These ... Nov 23 2002, 23:50
Dibrom I could mirror the pages here on the HA server if ... Nov 24 2002, 00:11
liekloo QUOTE (liekloo @ 20Nov 10:17am)heh. That... Dec 4 2002, 11:03
CiTay QUOTE (liekloo @ Dec 4 2002 - 11:03 AM)I just... Dec 4 2002, 14:35
boiling_ice2k4 uh oh, I keep getting an error "Can't pat... Dec 8 2002, 21:17
Mr. Superbad QUOTE (boiling_ice2k4 @ Dec 8 2002 - 12:17 PM... Dec 11 2002, 21:26
CiTay The links to the ReplayGain homepage are back... b... Dec 23 2002, 20:54
liekloo QUOTE (boiling_ice2k4 @ Dec 8 2002 - 09:17 PM... Jan 10 2003, 14:23
CiTay New Winamp 2.x plugin 0.98b at Case's page: Do... Jan 19 2003, 18:24
MusicLover Tagger-the Tagger that uses Tag
05.01.2003 Beta ... Jan 22 2003, 06:03
David Racho Which is recommended? with -xlevel or without? I p... Jan 23 2003, 09:32
user *** NOTICE ***
--quality and --xlevel are safe to... Jan 23 2003, 09:53
chrisgeleven I noticed on Case's Musepack Page that there i... Feb 8 2003, 01:31
David Nordin You can't stay updated all the time
1.15j is ... Feb 8 2003, 01:48
CiTay QUOTE (chrisgeleven @ Feb 8 2003 - 01:31 AM)I... Feb 8 2003, 01:52
user 2003-04-10 Added:
CDIndexer : for CD-Audio & data... Apr 10 2003, 15:18
alfa156 newbie question
should i use both -extreme AND --... Apr 16 2003, 07:36
mikeson @alfa156:
All you've asked for is in the begi... Apr 16 2003, 09:48
user newbie question
should i use both -extreme AND --... Apr 16 2003, 10:16
2Bdecided QUOTE (user @ Apr 4 2003 - 03:20 PM)QUOTE... Apr 16 2003, 10:42
alfa156 thank you for your quick answer!
Of course i ... Apr 16 2003, 10:45
alfa156 hold on tight...here comes another newbie question... Apr 24 2003, 14:48
Jan S. QUOTE (alfa156 @ Apr 24 2003 - 03:48 PM)hold ... Apr 24 2003, 15:11
alfa156 QUOTE (Jan S. @ Apr 24 2003 - 06:11 AM)QUOTE ... Apr 25 2003, 09:51
ErikS ReplayGain always adds Track gain. You choose whet... Apr 25 2003, 11:19
alfa156 QUOTE (ErikS @ Apr 25 2003 - 02:19 AM)ReplayG... Apr 25 2003, 14:43
Jan S. QUOTE (alfa156 @ Apr 25 2003 - 03:43 PM)QUOTE... Apr 25 2003, 16:09
alfa156 Thank you! Apr 25 2003, 23:12
alfa156 when i replaygain my mpc files with the batch enco... May 1 2003, 12:50
CiTay QUOTE (alfa156 @ May 1 2003 - 01:50 PM)when i... May 1 2003, 13:37
Moguta Why is it recommended that ClipProtect be off in t... May 25 2003, 00:21
CiTay Redesign of the recommended settings: I tried to m... Jun 10 2003, 14:00
CiTay ... also fixed all broken links. Jun 10 2003, 14:13
Garf Maybe the mp3 settings thread should be modified s... Jun 10 2003, 14:15
CiTay QUOTE (Garf @ Jun 10 2003 - 03:15 PM)Maybe th... Jun 10 2003, 14:18
GeSomeone QUOTE (CiTay @ Jun 10 2003 - 03:00 PM)Provide... Jun 10 2003, 14:33
Moguta I have noticed with several of my albums, that Foo... Jun 10 2003, 23:06
CiTay QUOTE (Moguta @ Jun 11 2003 - 12:06 AM)Are yo... Jun 10 2003, 23:16
DickD QUOTE (Moguta @ Jun 10 2003 - 11:06 PM)I have... Jun 11 2003, 14:17
Frozen Fire ... also fixed all broken links.
EncSpot link see... Jun 11 2003, 14:31
CiTay QUOTE (Frozen Fire @ Jun 11 2003 - 03:31 PM)E... Jun 11 2003, 15:34
Moguta Make sure it is obvious that the --xlevel command ... Jun 29 2003, 04:52
rejj QUOTE (user @ Jun 3 2002 - 01:41 AM)Additiona... Jun 29 2003, 07:11
Pio2001 That's right, getting MPC, I went here to setu... Jun 29 2003, 11:54
CiTay QUOTE (rejj @ Jun 29 2003 - 08:11 AM)Why do y... Jun 29 2003, 12:01
AstralStorm Higher quality seems to transcode better. Maybe th... Jun 29 2003, 12:29
zegilles QUOTE (AstralStorm @ Jun 29 2003 - 03:29 AM)H... Jun 30 2003, 10:13
user ok, if some people write here their personal setti... Jun 30 2003, 10:27
David Nordin I prefer "mppenc --xlevel" myself, I fin... Jun 30 2003, 10:39
kl33per QUOTE Many people will cut&paste this line rig... Jul 2 2003, 14:51
R.A.F. QUOTE (user @ Jun 30 2003 - 11:27 AM)MPC --qu... Jul 2 2003, 20:28
user I have added to the How to about replaygain, the p... Jul 7 2003, 10:34
CiTay Added --xlevel to all recommendations, simplified ... Jul 8 2003, 17:46
Pio2001 I Splitted the tag question to http://www.hydrogen... Jul 24 2003, 11:34
Pio2001 Decode question splitted : http://www.hydrogenaudi... Jul 26 2003, 01:16
xmixahlx TO ADD:
LINUX RESOURCES:
players: XMMS, BMP, LAM... Aug 1 2003, 09:16
Opeth how do i on the fly encode with cdex?
thx Aug 5 2003, 12:48
CiTay QUOTE (Opeth @ Aug 5 2003, 01:48 PM)how do i ... Aug 5 2003, 13:51
Q! QUOTE (CiTay @ Aug 5 2003, 03:51 PM)CD Drive ... Aug 5 2003, 15:34
CiTay QUOTE (Q! @ Aug 5 2003, 04:34 PM)that onl... Aug 5 2003, 15:41
torok The link to the Winamp plugin is dead. Sep 8 2003, 06:20![]() ![]() |
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