Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Internal Connector |
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Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Internal Connector |
 Apr 10 2004, 20:08
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After some years of owning a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz i recognized the internal
connector has a full featured output stage for headphones i suppose. Pin 10 is ground and pins 7 and 9 are the both audio channel signals. When i connect headphones it doesnīt work. Anybody got a workaround for the drivers activating this? 
This post has been edited by Wombat: Apr 10 2004, 20:48 |
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Apr 10 2004, 23:24
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As a fellow TBSC owner, I'm also curious about this internal connector. Could you explain why using an internal connector might be better than simply using the mini-jack on the back of the card?
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Apr 10 2004, 23:33
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It seems to have a better layout in itself. The normal exits have a quad op-amp from texas instruments
and the layout isnīt that straight. This exit has a pretty good dual op-amp to start with and dedicated decoupling capacitors. The Aureon 7.1 uses these 4558 op-amps also if i am right. May be a starting point to modify this a bit. Better op-amp (i have around here some) and decoupling capacitors. Wombat |
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Apr 11 2004, 00:39
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You could try e-mailing Turtle Beach technical support, but I doubt they'll be willing to add a driver function to activiate the internal connector.
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Oct 7 2005, 23:40
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If anybody is still interested in activating this on his Santa Cruz i have an idea.
My new soundcard (X-Fi) has exactly the same pinout on this connctor for internals. You can see Pin 1 is ground, Pin 2 is left channel out and Pin 4 is the right channel. Above picture from left to right. Seems like this is a kind of standardized OEM connector for front-panels. Connecting Pin 3 to Ground should activate the headphone amp so my idea. Cause on my X-Fi connecting this Pin to Ground shuts off the rear exits and activates the headphone mode. If anybody has some experience and curiosity give it a try and report. I canīt test it anymore cause my Santa is gone... |
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Oct 27 2005, 16:08
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What's the best/safest way to try that idea?
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Mar 26 2006, 10:46
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QUOTE (Wombat @ Oct 8 2005, 12:40 AM) If anybody is still interested in activating this on his Santa Cruz i have an idea. My new soundcard (X-Fi) has exactly the same pinout on this connctor for internals. You can see Pin 1 is ground, Pin 2 is left channel out and Pin 4 is the right channel. Above picture from left to right. Seems like this is a kind of standardized OEM connector for front-panels. Connecting Pin 3 to Ground should activate the headphone amp so my idea. Cause on my X-Fi connecting this Pin to Ground shuts off the rear exits and activates the headphone mode. If anybody has some experience and curiosity give it a try and report. I canīt test it anymore cause my Santa is gone...  I tried it, it works. Pin 1 is GND, 2 is Left, 3 switches off rear panel, and activates headphone mode, 4 is Right. Now I have to buy a connector witch can do the pin 3 trick upon headphone insert. |
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Mar 27 2006, 23:40
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Nice it works
 If you find an easy to get connector switching ground please tell me. Dell machines once had such connectors in the front. |
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Mar 30 2006, 14:25
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QUOTE (Wombat @ Mar 27 2006, 05:40 PM) Nice it works how does it sound as compared to the "normal" headphone jack ? |
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Mar 30 2006, 14:41
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QUOTE (goodsound @ Mar 30 2006, 02:25 PM) QUOTE (Wombat @ Mar 27 2006, 05:40 PM) Nice it works how does it sound as compared to the "normal" headphone jack ? How do i know? I donīt have a Santa anymore. |
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Mar 30 2006, 15:01
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sorry then its a question for huzsolt. I quoted the wrong line.
QUOTE I tried it, it works.
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Mar 30 2006, 16:24
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I'm also interested because it would be more convenient to use the front jack for regular listening. I rarely need to use the mic input in the back and it's been a long time since I had speakers connected. I take it what you guys are saying is without a special switch connecting the headphone jack in this manner would make it on permanently (and back outputs off permanently), regardless of whether a headphone is in?
-------------------- "Have you ever been with a woman? It's like death. You moan, you scream and then you start to beg for mercy, for salvation"
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Apr 25 2006, 19:49
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QUOTE (Societal Eclipse @ Mar 30 2006, 05:24 PM) I'm also interested because it would be more convenient to use the front jack for regular listening. I rarely need to use the mic input in the back and it's been a long time since I had speakers connected. I take it what you guys are saying is without a special switch connecting the headphone jack in this manner would make it on permanently (and back outputs off permanently), regardless of whether a headphone is in? I made an adapter from an old SB-PRO CDROM audio cable to connect to my case front audio connector (which has jack sens connectors). However, I didn't get any audio on the internal header, nor did shorting pin 3 to pin 1 (GND) do anything (nor pin 5 to pin 1). I did measure 4 VDC between pins 3 and 1 and pins 5 and 1. I thought that maybe only the Dell driver had support for this feature, so I installed that one (the Dell page says that these drivers aren't mean for non-Dell OEM TBSC cards). Didn't make any difference however... So my guess is that either this functionality is hardwired into the Dell OEM cards only, or that Turtle Beach doesn't allow you to load the required EPROM code onto non-Dell cards |
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Apr 26 2006, 11:15
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Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Member No.: 6127 |
QUOTE 16. For Internal Use Only. Dell has used this for some of their Systems in -Turtle Beach Santa Cruz FAQa proprietary fashion ONLY for those SPECIFIC Systems. Sorry. No pin-outs are available on this. I do have one that came from a Dell Dimension 8100. It's now residing in an entirely new computer and running off the newest drivers available at the Turtle Beach website (not the Dell ones). When I have time I might tinker with my own and see what I can get. -------------------- "Have you ever been with a woman? It's like death. You moan, you scream and then you start to beg for mercy, for salvation"
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