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John Mayer's Latest -- Too Compressed!, Heavy compression on modern CDs.. ugh.
post May 19 2004, 23:05
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I've been listening to John Mayer's latest CD, "Heavier Things", and cannot believe how compressed it sounds. Does anyone else share this opinion? Listen near the end of the first track, Clarity.. when the trumpets start in with the guitars. Or a great example is on "Something's Missing", from about the 3:20 mark and onward. Terrible distortion of the bass/high end, from what sounds to be heavy compression.

Is it just me/my equipment, or what? Anyone else listened to this CD and thought similiar?

At first I thought it was a ripping problem, but I've tried three different drives, and all using Exact Audio Copy in secure mode... exact same wavforms each time.

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post May 24 2004, 13:32
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I understand compression to be like trying to inflate a spherical balloon inside of a box* so much, that the balloon loses its spherical shape as it is being cramped up against the box, and these distorted, flattened balloon surfaces are the clipping.

*(where the balloon is the waveform, the balloon size is the volume level, and the box is the total volume threshold)


Clipping and, on the other hand, limiting/compression are two completely different things (Although they have partly the same results.) See my explanation in this post (the part before the last one)

by the way: I like this analogy, too.

I understand that some copy protected CDs work by having a 'corrupt' table of contents?


Copy protection has nothing to do with sound quality (not in an audible way).
There seem to be copy protections that corrupt only the TOC and others that also (or only) corrupt the audio data. Once I recorded a song from a protected CD twice on my HDD through the digital ins, the files were different at some points by a few samples and sample values. This means, the CD player had to perform interpolation. (With a normal CD the files are identical in this test.)

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- delusion_   John Mayer's Latest -- Too Compressed!   May 19 2004, 23:05
- - Teqnilogik   Odds are it is highly compressed since John Mayer ...   May 20 2004, 00:05
- - mithrandir   When I first heard "Heavier Things" on g...   May 20 2004, 02:22
- - teleguise   Please excuse what may be a 'laymen' quest...   May 22 2004, 02:29
- - Bonzi   teleguise, what they mean is that the volume of th...   May 22 2004, 02:41
- - shadowking   Interesting. I was at a local Thai food dine in re...   May 22 2004, 02:50
- - teleguise   Thanks 'Bonzi' for the link as well as qu...   May 22 2004, 03:56
- - Kaleb.G   I understand compression to be like trying to infl...   May 22 2004, 04:07
- - ShowsOn   Does that John Mayer CD also have copy protection?...   May 22 2004, 04:20
- - Rash   You guys are absolutely right. Is it only us, soun...   May 22 2004, 04:50
- - Jurg98   @ShowsOn: As far as I know, copy protection schem...   May 22 2004, 11:03
- - plunger   I believe a serious problem in the "loundess...   May 22 2004, 15:53
- - Kuuenbu   QUOTE (Rash @ May 21 2004, 10:50 PM)You guys ...   May 22 2004, 23:05
- - Undesirable   In my opinion, if you're paying for it then th...   May 23 2004, 01:57
- - analogy   "Compressed" when referring to a CD mean...   May 23 2004, 04:35
- - dreamliner77   Waves L1 and L2 can still be used artistically wit...   May 23 2004, 06:43
- - plunger   QUOTE (dreamliner77 @ May 22 2004, 09:43 PM)W...   May 23 2004, 17:06
- - analogy   QUOTE Waves L1 and L2 can still be used artistical...   May 23 2004, 19:23
- - precisionist   QUOTE I understand compression to be like trying t...   May 24 2004, 13:32
- - Rash   Lemme ask a newbie question. In which process of C...   May 28 2004, 22:10
- - chrisgeleven   QUOTE (Rash @ May 28 2004, 04:10 PM)Lemme ask...   May 29 2004, 01:08
- - plunger   Actually, it is not necessarily the mastering engi...   May 29 2004, 02:45
- - NeoMoose   Has anyone mentioned that John Mayer is going to s...   May 29 2004, 03:08
- - xiphmont   QUOTE (NeoMoose @ May 28 2004, 09:08 PM)Has a...   May 29 2004, 08:17

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