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westgroveg
post Jul 9 2004, 08:57
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I am thinking of starting to take on the task of converting my, my friends, my family's LPs, 78s, 45s to digital, CD's, I would like to do this with the best possible quality & find an easy, standard way of doing it so my mind can be at peace the process was done as best as possible & I won't have to do it again. These are questions I have,

Question 1. What hardware would be best as far as quality/price? I was thinking of getting a Darla Recording Sound Card would this be a good choice? what about Phono (I have no idea about this)?

Question 2. I want to get the best possible quality so I will clean the Vinyl records, what's the best way to do this?

Question 3. What software should I use to record the audio? Cool Edit? Sound Forge? others?

Question 4. Should clicks and crackles be filtered? if so which is (are) the best tool(s)?

Question 5. Can anyone recommend a guide to read?


Thank you

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gordo
post Jul 9 2004, 17:59
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I've embarked on the same thing and for what its worth here's what I settled on:

I bought an M-Audio Firewire Audiophile audio interface (www.m-audio.com). This supports high resolution A/D and is external so it avoids PCI noise. I digitize at 96 kHz 24 bit. This is well beyond what you'll get off an LP but 24 bit means I don't have wasted bits since there is no input gain on the audiophile (this is a source of noise on cheaper A/D cards) and the line level off my cartridge (which is a moving coil Ortofon) is a bit low - down to 1/3 of peak which looses >1 bit, a big deal for 16 bit not for 24. This approach insures no clipping, however you do it the need to avoid clipping will loose bits so better to digitize at higher bit depth and downconvert after normalizing. I downsample to 16 bits and 48 kHz after normalizing and save to flac files.

Prior to digitizing I clean each record using a Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner, this is not cheap but works very well, even on pretty crapped up LPs. It makes a huge difference in surface noise and means I only do cleanups of big pops (see below). I found it much better to get a clean signal to begin with than mess with software decrackling which damages fidelity of things like cymbals.

The software I use is Goldwave (www.goldwave.ca) which is shareware but quite good. It has all the things needed, easy to change bit depth and sampling frequency, mark cue points, extract individual tracks using the cue points (as flacs with tags), remove pops etc. I don't do any noise filtering or automatic pop removal since I found that introduces artifacts. I do manually remove pops and clicks (before normalizing!) when they are severe using Goldwave.

I use Tag&Rename (also shareware) to edit the flac tags and dbpoweramp to batch convert flacs to lossy compressed files for portable playback. I will be playing back the flacs on a Soundbridge using slim server (converting to wavs). For the moment my Roku HD1000 uses 320 kbps mp3s batch converted from flac and I make ~180 kbps wma files for my ipaq.

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post Nov 23 2004, 13:07
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QUOTE (gordo @ Jul 9 2004, 08:59 AM)
Prior to digitizing I clean each record using a Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner, this is not cheap but works very well, even on pretty crapped up LPs.  It makes a huge difference in surface noise and means I only do cleanups of big pops (see below). 
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The software I use is Goldwave (www.goldwave.ca) which is shareware but quite good.  It has all the things needed, easy to change bit depth and sampling frequency, ...

An old thread, but I just have to comment on this if anyone takes this advice... Spending so much money on the nitty gritty cleaner (really expensive) and then using cheap Goldwave for sampling rate conversion is not very wise. The sampling rate converter in Goldwave is really bad, at least in the version I tried some time ago. Don't get me wrong, Goldwave is a really good piece of software for cut&paste type of editing which I use from time to time. I just wanted to warn that spending a lot of money on cleaning could easily by wasted by sample rate conversion in Goldwave...
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- westgroveg   LP to CD Conversion   Jul 9 2004, 08:57
- - Jan S.   This guide is vrey good: http://www.delback.co.uk/...   Jul 9 2004, 11:21
- - magic75   If price is an issue... Q3: I like Waverepair, for...   Jul 9 2004, 11:39
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jul 9 2004, 08:57 AM)Ques...   Jul 9 2004, 12:31
|- - DonP   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 AM)If you ...   Nov 23 2004, 20:24
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (DonP @ Nov 23 2004, 07:24 PM)I have a ...   Nov 24 2004, 12:36
- - toomuch   "Question 4. Should clicks and crackles be fi...   Jul 9 2004, 15:37
- - dev0   Personally I always leave the recording untouched ...   Jul 9 2004, 15:46
- - DerEber   me too .... untouched!! in some rear cases...   Jul 9 2004, 16:50
- - JeanLuc   What really rocks are the Waves DX Plug-Ins X-Hum,...   Jul 9 2004, 17:27
- - gordo   I've embarked on the same thing and for what i...   Jul 9 2004, 17:59
|- - magic75   QUOTE (gordo @ Jul 9 2004, 08:59 AM)Prior to ...   Nov 23 2004, 13:07
|- - gordo   There may be an issue for a non-integer ratio samp...   Nov 23 2004, 19:59
- - ChangFest   I get decent results using my cheap Technics SL-B...   Nov 23 2004, 17:38
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- - Gray_Wolf   Hi ; I have recorded many LP's to my PC with...   Nov 24 2004, 01:46
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Gray_Wolf @ Nov 24 2004, 12:46 AM)Hi...   Nov 24 2004, 14:13
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|- - auldyin   I also have been using Wave Corrector and have to ...   Nov 25 2004, 17:01
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- - ChangFest   QUOTE A lot of people on the old Cool Edit forums ...   Nov 24 2004, 18:30
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