foo_dumb, experimental new modplugin, by Kode54 Options

[deus-ex]

Hello Kode54,

its me (deus-ex) again.

You introduced a new modplugin named foo_dumb. I gave it a test run against foo_mod right away (just downloaded latest version 9.9.2004).
In comparison its soundoutput is not as clear as foo_mod utilizing bass.dll. It sounds softer, as if there's some textile between the speakers and
your ears. Also i found the .it-format support not as "balls on accurate" like provided with the bass.dll. I uploaded a file named Chris35b.it to
demonstrate this. At start of the second order (after ~8 sec. playtime) you'll hear a ~hiss~ sound which is intended to be there but foo_dumb
puts it too much into the foreground so that it sounds anoyingly wrong. Please also check foo_dumb with uploaded 303.it. It loses so much quality
against replaying with foo_mod.

Second file in the upload named F0x-Test.xm fails to be loaded with foo_dumb. It features some weird special undocumented Fasttracker tricks.
It does sound very uncommon but it is a very good test file i guess. Once Xmplay had problems with this file too, until i send it to Ian (Xmplay author)
so he was able and kind enough to fix it.

Visiting DUMB's homepage and checking its CVS on sourceforge it seems that the project came to halt since a very long time. Is that correct?
If so i hope you can maintain and fix the code for your plugin if necessary.
Btw., everytime you update one of your plugins i wonder what has changed. Recently you updated foo_mod (my favorite plugin) and foo_dumb
quite often though their version number did'nt change. Maybe you can put a little file_id.diz or readme.txt along with the plugin mentioning the
changes if its not too much to ask for?

One suggestion/question please: (don't beat me for asking this)
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I don't know if bass.dll/dumb library provides necessary data but is it possible to have pattern view like in Xmplay?


Edited 18-10-2004: Downloadlink as a service for new threadvisitors.
Download latest version of Foo_Dumb


Regards, deus-ex.

This post has been edited by deus-ex: Oct 18 2004, 16:19

[deus-ex]

I recommend to use In_Adlib.dll along with the Winamp_Input_Wrapper. The native Foobar plugin only offers setting up mixing rate and a .s3m-file detection toggle. It is missing In_Adlib's soundcard and opl-emulation setup, you can't choose between the two opl-emulators and it doesn't offer the configurable extension handling.

One drawback of that is that Foo_Adplug grabs and plays .d00/.d01 (Edlib) files regardless off the installed In_D00 plugin which is specialized in that format and sounds so much better. Second Foo_Adplug fails to play .laa-files (Lucas Arts Audio) while In_adlib/Winamp_Input_Wrapper works flawless. Third it always sets subsong index to 1 for every file when there is no subsong. Fourth it doesn't provide access to existing subsongs. Meh...

And now to something completely different...

A few more issues spotted, mainly .it-format:
Chris37.it : Order 04, Channel 07/08, Panning to the left, should be to the right
Chris47.it : Order 00, Channel 04, Bass sample played to long (though i think it does sound good in this particular example)
Cjembrac.it : Order 00, Channel 17/18, Panning to much on the left, should be more to the right
Cj-Purg1.it : Order 02, Channel 01, Snare sample sounds to hard. (caused by the sampling accuracy of the dumb library? Or because of missing volumeramping?)
Cj-Purg2.it : Order 00, Channel 05, Piano sample played to long (best heard when Piano plays for the second time after ~8 sec.)
4sw.it : Order 00, Channel 01(/02/03), Piano sample should be panning from right to left and back continously
(with IT the initial panningslider startposition for Channel 01 seems to be different at every songrestart, restart the song a few times and watch the slider on the right)
As_Dtd.it : Order 03, Channel 04, Drum sample to much on the middle (or stereo?), should be on the left (best heard when Drum Kick plays fot the third time at ~30 sec.)
Jv-Mcml.it : Order 06, Channel 01-04, should continously Pan between left and right
F0x-Test.xm : Order 00, Channel 01, Row D0/DD/EA/F7 (FT2 rownumbering), effect played wrong

deus-ex

This post has been edited by deus-ex: Oct 5 2004, 17:23