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Is MPC better than mp3?
Grand Dizzy
post Oct 24 2004, 20:25
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I just noticed in the polls that more people use mpc than mp3!

Bearing in mind that I know nothing about mpc, could anyone explain the benefits over mp3?

I use alt-preset extreme... does anyone recommend I upgrade to mpc?
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vinnie97
post Apr 3 2006, 04:26
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some metal/punk on P2P networks is/was encoded in it

haha, I've noticed this same phenomenon. It seems some metal heads are closet audiophiles. wink.gif
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post Apr 3 2006, 07:32
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QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Apr 2 2006, 07:26 PM)
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some metal/punk on P2P networks is/was encoded in it

haha, I've noticed this same phenomenon. It seems some metal heads are closet audiophiles. wink.gif
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Probably the folks from MPC-Donkey. A lot of people there are metal heads.
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post Apr 3 2006, 23:57
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weird...
April jokes ?

I knew (and posted) during the prediscussion of the latest 128k multiformat test, that cross-test-references are necessary and interesting in general,
and that without this, sooner or later somebody will come and connect the old tests (eg. with mpc versions) and the new test (eg. without mpc), to show "somewhat", haha, a comparison between mpc measured/ranked in old tests to compare the old "value" with formats in new tests and their new "values".
You made my day !


MPC,
that is great usage in Windows & Linux,
no (serious) flaws in higher qualities like 7 or 8,
wonderful small-sized high quality backup solution (on DVD+R) for my Lossless music.
Other formats are still struggling to reach the quality.

For portable factory made hardware: MP3 Lame -V5 -vbr-new the way I'm going. That's universal playable on devices.



well, the story of software & their developers (not especially mpc related) is weirdo sometimes, but if the result is fine..., they deserve respect, even if it isn't 100% perfect, that's life, to have tried and have made something, that's important smile.gif

Lack of testers in the higher bitrate range:
- headphone testing does not reveal the complete truth about formats
- no fun to participate due to avoid being involved later into personal conflicts, as formats' artefacts could be taken personally by the dev..., HA is too small...
- eg. the latest 130k multiformat test with Lame -V5 participating, where the modern codecs succeeded well, all... -> Despite the easy spotting of lack of highs/attacks with higher frequencies with -V5 -vbr-new via good speakers in bigger living-room, and me is meanwhile over 30 with imo worse listening abilities than in my 17-28 years..., Lame -V5 is good, if you don't make A/B-X listening at good HiFi.
As I don't invest much of my freetime in virtual internet fora, but follow eg. HA regularly, I rate some core HA group (with some nice exceptions) as relative small group of eager technicians, some people who know what they are talking about, and a group, who simply rewrite again and again, what others have said before, who want to belong to the core, to be felt accepted by the group. Some sort of group/sect behaviour with own dynamics.
Due to group dynamics and relations, the groups' opinions tend sometimes in 1 direction, sometimes to other directions with the goal to make "policy", to diss formats/sub-groups of people, sometimes arised by personal conflicts.

The solution is simple,
go back to one of HA principles, listen yourself, judge yourself.

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- Grand Dizzy   Is MPC better than mp3?   Oct 24 2004, 20:25
- - Mono   Please search. Some great threads have already cov...   Oct 24 2004, 20:45
- - rjamorim   That poll only applies to Hydrogenaudio. It makes ...   Oct 24 2004, 20:46
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Oct 24 2004, 01:46 PM)That ...   Apr 1 2006, 17:03
- - Grand Dizzy   Thanks, guys.   Oct 24 2004, 22:00
- - hybridfan   It sounds amazing and what really surprises me is ...   Apr 1 2006, 13:33
- - Sebastian Mares   And you had to bump a two years old topic just to ...   Apr 1 2006, 13:43
- - guruboolez   I guess that creating a new thread was not enough ...   Apr 1 2006, 13:47
- - NeoRenegade   Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It...   Apr 1 2006, 15:27
- - flipik   QUOTE (Grand Dizzy @ Oct 24 2004, 09:25 PM)I ...   Apr 1 2006, 15:43
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- - dreamliner77   I still have everything in mpc and continue to enc...   Apr 1 2006, 17:50
- - kwanbis   it could be argued that diferent samples were used...   Apr 2 2006, 02:02
- - DickxLaurent   Maybe it's time for a new lossy encoder poll. ...   Apr 2 2006, 03:01
- - vinnie97   Yea, but it's over a year old...with much more...   Apr 2 2006, 04:05
|- - atici   QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Apr 1 2006, 10:05 PM)Yea, b...   Apr 2 2006, 06:27
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (atici @ Apr 2 2006, 06:27 AM)There...   Apr 2 2006, 12:17
- - vinnie97   You know, I get the impression you've really g...   Apr 2 2006, 06:32
|- - atici   QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Apr 2 2006, 12:32 AM)1.) Yo...   Apr 2 2006, 06:43
- - vinnie97   PS. What you quoted was in regards to the POLL bei...   Apr 2 2006, 06:36
- - vinnie97   Apologies, I meant "seeking" instead of ...   Apr 2 2006, 06:53
- - ak   You know what's funny, people keep talking los...   Apr 2 2006, 19:51
|- - The Link   QUOTE (ak @ Apr 2 2006, 07:51 PM)I think Doom...   Apr 2 2006, 20:26
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (ak @ Apr 2 2006, 07:51 PM)I think Doom...   Apr 2 2006, 21:07
- - hybridfan   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Apr 1 2006, 12:43 PM...   Apr 2 2006, 20:19
|- - Sebastian Mares   QUOTE (hybridfan @ Apr 2 2006, 09:19 PM)maybe...   Apr 2 2006, 20:55
- - ak   Well, ok. Although recommended and best aren't...   Apr 2 2006, 22:49
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (ak @ Apr 2 2006, 10:49 PM)Well, ok. Al...   Apr 2 2006, 23:38
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|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (foxyshadis @ Apr 3 2006, 12:17 AM)It l...   Apr 3 2006, 00:40
- - vinnie97   QUOTE Personally, I love mpc, because it's a g...   Apr 3 2006, 00:35
- - Supacon   I've never had any interest in MPC, personally...   Apr 3 2006, 01:49
- - vinnie97   QUOTE some metal/punk on P2P networks is/was encod...   Apr 3 2006, 04:26
|- - Leto Atreides II   QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Apr 2 2006, 07:26 PM)QUOTE ...   Apr 3 2006, 07:32
|- - user   weird... April jokes ? I knew (and posted) during...   Apr 3 2006, 23:57
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (user @ Apr 3 2006, 07:57 PM)Other form...   Apr 4 2006, 02:13
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (user @ Apr 3 2006, 10:57 PM)Other form...   Apr 4 2006, 03:59
||- - skelly831   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Apr 3 2006, 06:59 PM)QUOTE (...   Apr 4 2006, 04:06
||- - kwanbis   QUOTE (skelly831 @ Apr 4 2006, 03:06 AM)Keep ...   Apr 4 2006, 04:15
||- - skelly831   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Apr 3 2006, 07:15 PM)QUOTE (...   Apr 4 2006, 04:52
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (user @ Apr 3 2006, 11:57 PM)no (seriou...   Apr 4 2006, 09:40
- - Brink   QUOTE I've noticed this same phenomenon. It se...   Apr 3 2006, 07:32
|- - skelly831   QUOTE (Brink @ Apr 2 2006, 10:32 PM)...or may...   Apr 4 2006, 01:16
- - vinnie97   QUOTE Other formats are still struggling to reach ...   Apr 4 2006, 03:34
- - Madman2003   A while back i tried lame -V 2 and at on the few t...   Apr 4 2006, 09:58
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|- - user   No, extrapolation of those tests (not only of thos...   Apr 11 2006, 11:16
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (user @ Apr 11 2006, 07:16 AM) No, ...   Apr 11 2006, 12:52
||- - user   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 11 2006, 01:52 PM) ...   Apr 11 2006, 18:01
|||- - rjamorim   QUOTE (user @ Apr 11 2006, 02:01 PM) Than...   Apr 12 2006, 00:23
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||- - Garf   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 11 2006, 01:52 PM) ...   Apr 12 2006, 12:11
|- - Garf   QUOTE (user @ Apr 11 2006, 12:16 PM) No, ...   Apr 12 2006, 12:58
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|- - Garf   QUOTE (user @ Apr 12 2006, 02:47 PM) As a...   Apr 12 2006, 13:59
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (Garf @ Apr 12 2006, 12:59 PM) *BUT...   Apr 12 2006, 14:24
|- - user   I do question, that transparency = 5.0 is sufficie...   Apr 12 2006, 15:19
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|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Apr 5 2006, 05:15 AM)That p...   Apr 4 2006, 23:38
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- - vinnie97   You lost me at variable "Q." Seriousl...   Apr 5 2006, 04:50
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|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (user @ Apr 10 2006, 08:14 AM) lol...   Apr 10 2006, 12:34
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (user @ Apr 10 2006, 11:14 AM) when...   Apr 10 2006, 13:33
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