Extract HDCD, How I Can extract HDCD by software? |
Extract HDCD, How I Can extract HDCD by software? |
Jan 27 2005, 08:34
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Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 26-January 05 From: Vladivostok(RU) Member No.: 19324 |
How I Can extract HDCD by software(EAC, WMP9...)?
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Jan 28 2005, 18:00
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I was always under the impression that HDCD was simply a better dithering algorithm.
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Jan 28 2005, 18:59
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QUOTE (adlai @ Jan 28 2005, 09:00 AM) HDCD is: 1) dithering + noise shaping 2) peak compression (kind of a reversible dynamic compressor) 3) hiding commands in some least significant bits of the samples to tell an HDCD decoder which anti-alias lowpass filter it has to use for upsampling ...whereas most of the dynamic range "increase" comes from (1). ("increase" ? yes, it depends on how you measure it. If you perceptually weight the quantization noise the noise power will be lower compared to dithering without noise shaping) SebastianG This post has been edited by SebastianG: Jan 28 2005, 19:11 |
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Oct 20 2007, 17:41
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Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-January 02 Member No.: 1186 |
QUOTE (adlai @ Jan 28 2005, 09:00 AM) HDCD is: 1) dithering + noise shaping 2) peak compression (kind of a reversible dynamic compressor) 3) hiding commands in some least significant bits of the samples to tell an HDCD decoder which anti-alias lowpass filter it has to use for upsampling ...whereas most of the dynamic range "increase" comes from (1). ("increase" ? yes, it depends on how you measure it. If you perceptually weight the quantization noise the noise power will be lower compared to dithering without noise shaping) SebastianG I just came across this post and I had a question for. #2 threw me off when you said "reversible dynamic compressor." are the signal peaks actually compressed (or limited?) or is it a compressor acting as an expander (the "reversible" part is what lead me to believe you were describing a compressor reversed)? |
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SCIF Extract HDCD Jan 27 2005, 08:34
Garf HDCD just uses the standard 16 bit CD Audio encodi... Jan 27 2005, 10:28
PoisonDan QUOTE (Garf @ Jan 27 2005, 11:28 AM)For playb... Jan 27 2005, 10:50
SCIF QUOTE (PoisonDan @ Jan 27 2005, 07:50 PM)But ... Jan 28 2005, 03:31
Garf Perhaps it could work when you mount the ripped wa... Jan 27 2005, 11:44
precisionist QUOTE (SCIF @ Jan 28 2005, 03:31 AM)QUOTE (Po... Jan 28 2005, 11:17
SebastianG QUOTE (precisionist @ Jan 28 2005, 02:17 AM)M... Jan 28 2005, 17:02
krabapple QUOTE (SebastianG @ Jan 28 2005, 13:59) Q... Jun 27 2007, 20:44
user QUOTE (SCIF @ Jan 27 2005, 08:34 AM)How I Can... Feb 1 2005, 11:31
Night Rain QUOTE (user @ Feb 1 2005, 02:31) QUOTE (S... Mar 21 2007, 12:38
ShowsOn I just noticed this thread, and given that I fina... Feb 1 2005, 13:10
user as written above, normally 24 bit playback of audi... Feb 1 2005, 13:45
precisionist QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Feb 1 2005, 01:10 PM)I resta... Feb 2 2005, 13:26
user QUOTE (precisionist @ Feb 2 2005, 01:26 PM)My... Feb 3 2005, 12:02
Pio2001 QUOTE (user @ Feb 3 2005, 01:02 PM)QUOTE (pre... Feb 3 2005, 21:25
precisionist QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Feb 3 2005, 09:25 PM)QUOTE (... Feb 4 2005, 14:23
SebastianG QUOTE (precisionist @ Feb 4 2005, 05:23 AM)Th... Feb 4 2005, 16:34
Pio2001 No software, exept maybe the combination of Window... Feb 4 2005, 23:29
krabapple QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Feb 4 2005, 17:29) No so... Feb 8 2007, 19:15
precisionist QUOTE (SebastianG @ Feb 4 2005, 04:34 PM)Does... Feb 7 2005, 17:01
Eric Carroll There has been a long running thread on the Slim D... Feb 26 2007, 06:56
markanini Wow, I wish I knew about this plugin before.
Final... Feb 27 2007, 01:40
Eric Carroll QUOTE (markanini @ Feb 26 2007, 19:40) Wo... Feb 27 2007, 04:42
markanini QUOTE (Eric Carroll @ Feb 27 2007, 05:42)... Feb 27 2007, 05:26
markanini Since I got too excited about this, here are the w... Feb 27 2007, 06:31
Eric Carroll Thanks for looking into this.
QUOTE (markanini ... Feb 27 2007, 06:57
markanini For the sake of visual comparison I adjusted the w... Feb 27 2007, 07:08
Eric Carroll Well your results sure look like what I expected t... Feb 27 2007, 07:14
markanini I used WMP 10. Feb 27 2007, 07:17
SebastianG I recall someone mentioning on the audioasylum for... Feb 27 2007, 09:49
user I have an alternative idea to capture the 2 stream... Mar 21 2007, 11:41
SebastianG I reviewed the papers about HDCD you can find on t... Jun 28 2007, 11:21
Christopher Key I've had a go at understanding hdcd; see,
htt... Aug 22 2007, 10:57
M QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 22 2007, 04... Aug 22 2007, 15:33

Christopher Key QUOTE (M @ Aug 22 2007, 15:33) QUOTE (Chr... Aug 22 2007, 17:54
gabeg QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 22 2007, 03... Aug 24 2007, 01:15

Christopher Key QUOTE (gabeg @ Aug 24 2007, 01:15) QUOTE ... Aug 24 2007, 11:03
MRC01 QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 22 2007, 01... Oct 18 2007, 06:14
SebastianG Nice work! ... The infos about the LFSR are av... Aug 22 2007, 13:50
Christopher Key QUOTE (SebastianG @ Aug 22 2007, 13:50) N... Aug 22 2007, 14:04
eevan You can find this link at Wikipedia.
Take a look... Aug 22 2007, 15:29
Christopher Key QUOTE (eevan @ Aug 22 2007, 15:29) You ca... Aug 22 2007, 16:28
eevan I've just tried your command-line decoder on o... Aug 22 2007, 17:12
eevan Thanks!
Cheers Aug 22 2007, 17:58
SebastianG I didn't try but I'd guess the answer is: ... Aug 24 2007, 09:15
dmckean It works for me. I think the real solution needs t... Aug 25 2007, 01:24
Christopher Key QUOTE (dmckean @ Aug 25 2007, 01:24) It w... Aug 25 2007, 16:42
SebastianG QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 24 2007, 12... Aug 27 2007, 08:21
Christopher Key QUOTE (SebastianG @ Aug 27 2007, 08:21) Q... Aug 27 2007, 23:17
Christopher Key QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 27 2007, 23... Aug 29 2007, 19:12
krabapple QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 29 2007, 14... Aug 30 2007, 20:20
Walrusbonzo Interesting stuff, I have 20~ HDCDs around here.
... Aug 27 2007, 09:45
adamjk QUOTE (Walrusbonzo @ Aug 27 2007, 10:45) ... Aug 27 2007, 11:36
Raiden hdcd.exe < 16bit.wav > 24bit.wav Aug 27 2007, 12:02
Walrusbonzo Thanks guys.... Got it working. Aug 27 2007, 13:44
Walrusbonzo I've started to run all my known HDCD encoded ... Aug 27 2007, 15:20
bryant QUOTE (Walrusbonzo @ Aug 27 2007, 07:20) ... Aug 31 2007, 05:36
SebastianG QUOTE (bryant @ Aug 31 2007, 06:36) I als... Aug 31 2007, 08:27

bryant QUOTE (SebastianG @ Aug 31 2007, 00:27) Q... Sep 1 2007, 05:49
Christopher Key QUOTE (bryant @ Aug 31 2007, 05:36) Chris... Aug 31 2007, 11:55
bryant QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 31 2007, 03... Sep 1 2007, 06:14
Christopher Key QUOTE (bryant @ Sep 1 2007, 06:14) I had ... Sep 13 2007, 13:19
skamp FLAC seems to support 20 bit audio. I don't su... Aug 27 2007, 16:38
Walrusbonzo QUOTE (skamp @ Aug 27 2007, 16:38) FLAC s... Aug 27 2007, 17:43
SebastianG One could modify the decoder to output 24 bit samp... Aug 27 2007, 18:10
Walrusbonzo QUOTE (SebastianG @ Aug 27 2007, 18:10) S... Aug 27 2007, 18:30
skamp QUOTE (SebastianG @ Aug 27 2007, 19:10) S... Aug 27 2007, 18:42

lucas1985 I'm with SebastianG. This decoder should be re... Aug 27 2007, 20:09
SiriusB QUOTE (SebastianG @ Aug 27 2007, 11:10) O... Aug 30 2007, 03:38
eevan QUOTE (SiriusB @ Aug 30 2007, 04:38) Rega... Aug 30 2007, 11:39

skelly831 QUOTE (eevan @ Aug 30 2007, 03:39) When I... Aug 30 2007, 15:33
Christopher Key QUOTE (SiriusB @ Aug 30 2007, 03:38) Hi g... Aug 30 2007, 16:33
krabapple QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 30 2007, 11... Aug 30 2007, 19:56
Christopher Key [quote name='krabapple' date='Aug 30 2... Aug 31 2007, 11:37
SiriusB QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 31 2007, 04... Aug 31 2007, 12:14

Christopher Key QUOTE (SiriusB @ Aug 31 2007, 12:14) Rega... Aug 31 2007, 12:50
Christopher Key QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 31 2007, 11... Aug 31 2007, 17:35
Christopher Key QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 31 2007, 17... Aug 31 2007, 21:52

SebastianG QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Aug 31 2007, 22... Sep 3 2007, 12:27

gabeg QUOTE (SebastianG @ Sep 3 2007, 05:27) Pe... Sep 4 2007, 17:31

SebastianG QUOTE (gabeg @ Sep 4 2007, 18:31) So does... Sep 5 2007, 08:29

Christopher Key QUOTE (SebastianG @ Sep 5 2007, 08:29) QU... Sep 13 2007, 14:13
SiriusB QUOTE If anyone has access to a hardware decoder w... Sep 1 2007, 00:36
Christopher Key QUOTE (SiriusB @ Sep 1 2007, 00:36) QUOTE... Sep 1 2007, 16:09
skamp QUOTE (Christopher Key @ Sep 1 2007, 17:0... Sep 1 2007, 18:50
Christopher Key QUOTE (skamp @ Sep 1 2007, 18:50) QUOTE (... Sep 13 2007, 14:02
edwardar Can I just say I'm very excited about this too... Aug 27 2007, 23:05
Dynamic The older foobar v0.8 series do allow Playback/Bit... Aug 28 2007, 10:06
SiriusB Yes, piping makes more sense than the way I did it... Aug 31 2007, 13:20
Egor FLAC --best compression results, 1.2.0 ICL compile... Aug 31 2007, 14:38
Christopher Key QUOTE (Egor @ Aug 31 2007, 14:38) FLAC --... Aug 31 2007, 22:40
Fool_on_the_hill I did ABX on track Wag The Dog from Mark Knopfler... Aug 31 2007, 21:19
Dynamic QUOTE (Fool_on_the_hill @ Aug 31 2007, 21... Sep 1 2007, 01:13
Triza Excellent work. Christopher. Well done.
Any chan... Sep 1 2007, 00:34
Fool_on_the_hill QUOTE Dynamic Posted Yesterday, 18:13
QUOTE(... Sep 1 2007, 20:32
Dynamic Thanks for the info, FotH. I hadn't noticed th... Sep 2 2007, 18:37
Cavaille for heavens sake!!! it´s finally happe... Sep 6 2007, 18:55![]() ![]() |
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