List of DAE Drive Features, EAC & CD Paranoia Options

[westgroveg]

This thread will be used to gather an accurate list of DAE drive features. Just post your drive(s) features in this thread & I will add them to my database.

The lists main purpose is to provide sample offsets for users who don't have one of EAC's key CD's & help people decide which is an optimal drive for use with EAC & which is a suitable drive for accurate results with CD Paranoia.

I will not add any incomplete records into the database so you must provide all the required fields.

Required Fields:

• Manufacturer <-- First part of EAC's top-left list box
• Type <-- Second part of EAC's top-left list box
• Model <-- Third part of EAC's top-left list box
• Accurate Stream <--Detect Drive Features....
• Caching <--Detect Drive Features....
• C2 Error Info <--Detect Drive Features....
• Overread <--Detect read sample offset correction....
• Sample Offset <--Detect read sample offset correction....
• Firmware <--Drive tab of Nero InfoTool

Example:

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Manufacturer - SAMSUNG
Type - CD-ROM
Model - SH-152A
Accurate Stream - YES
Caching - NO
C2 Error Info - YES
Overread - Lead Out
Sample Offset - +12
Firmware - C504

Results so far:



Database file (xls):

10-04-2005

This post has been edited by westgroveg: Apr 10 2005, 10:59

[westgroveg]

What I mean is that if we have a drive with an offset of say 10 samples that can't overread it's not the same as a drive with an offset of 1000 samples that can't overread yet both drives would have the Sample Offset field marked red.

We would need to agree upon a color rating based upon how long the offset is & if the drive can overread.

Also can overreading into a non matching value be useful at all? if not then I agree a drive that can't overread into the corresponding value should be marked red

How did you get the positive symbols to appear in Excel?

This post has been edited by westgroveg: Mar 20 2005, 13:09

[rutra80]

What I mean is that if we have a drive with an offset of say 10 samples that can't overread it's not the same as a drive with an offset of 1000 samples that can't overread yet both drives would have the Sample Offset field marked red.

We would need to agree upon a color rating based upon how long the offset is & if the drive can overread.

Also can overreading into a non matching value be useful at all? if not then I agree a drive that can't overread into the corresponding value should be marked red

In DAE, overreading into a non matching value is completly useless I think. Anyway, I have an idea of giving scores, so colour marking could stay simple as I suggest, and there wouldn't be a subjective limit where the non-matching offset becomes too bad.
The scoring could be like that:
1. If Accurate Stream is available then score = 1000, otherwise score = 0
2. If drive doesn't cache then score = score + 1000, otherwise score = score + 0
3. If C2 is available then score = score + 1000, otherwise score = score + 0
4. If overread & offset match then score = score + 1000, if they don't match then score = score - |offset|
So, score of Pioneer DVD-ROM DVD-106 would be 1000 + 0 + 0 - 102 = 898 rutra80 marks
And score of Plextor CD-ROM PX-40TS would be 1000 + 1000 + 1000 + 1000 = 4000 (full scale)
That way even the website that evereux prepares could have a "Sort by score" option to view the best drive for DAE.
Of course weight of Accurate Stream, Caching, C2, or overreading & offset can be higher or lower than 1000.

How did you get the positive symbols to appear in Excel?

You must format the cells as text and add a space before the positive symbol.

I noticed that you removed the Firmware column, why?

This post has been edited by rutra80: Mar 20 2005, 14:35

[Richard_Hsi]

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Type - SONY DVD-ROM
Model - DDU1621( FIRMWARE: s4.2 )
Accurate Stream - YES
Disable Cache - NO
C2 Error Info - YES ( But I suggest to set it No in EAC )
Overread I/O - NO
Sample Offset - +12

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Type - SONY CD-RW
Model - CRX220E1 ( FIRMWARE: 6YS1 )
Accurate Stream - YES
Disable Cache - YES
C2 Error Info - YES( But I suggest to set it No in EAC )
Overread I/O - Only Lead IN
Sample Offset - +6
Writing Function Supported by EAC: NO

Besides, who can tell me whether the writing function of Pioneer DVD+/-RW Type 109 could be supported by EAC? and what is its read offset and writing offset? Thanks.

This post has been edited by Richard_Hsi: Mar 20 2005, 18:02

[A_Man_Eating_Duc...]

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Besides, who can tell me whether  the writing function of Pioneer DVD+/-RW Type 109 could be supported by EAC? and what is its read offset and writing offset? Thanks.

EAC doesn't support my Pioneer 106 DVD-RW for writing either.

make a EAC offset cd on a drive that has it correct write offset set and use that CD and EAC will find the offset for you.

Another way is

*Note - Gap detection|detection accuracy needs to be set to Secure on both drives first

Put a audio CD in to a drive that has the correct read offset set, press F4 to detect any gaps, then select a track and copy it to WAV format, it is also a good idea to rename the resulting WAV file to the name of the drive that you copied it off.

Put the same cd into the drive you want to find the read offset, press F4 to detect any gaps again, copy the same track that you copied orginally to WAV format and rename the WAV file to the name of the drive it was copied from.

Compare the two files and there is your read offset value (repeated samples will put a + in front of the value, missing samples will put a - in front of the value)

This post has been edited by A_Man_Eating_Duck: Mar 20 2005, 23:47