Which is the best lossless codec?, Discussion thread |
Which is the best lossless codec?, Discussion thread |
Nov 26 2004, 05:40
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1. LOWER COMPRESSION BUT HIGHER CPU USAGE
2. NO COMPRESSION MODE TO SELECT EDIT : But compared with Monkey's Audio, WMA still use more power. WMA = 34.0MB = ~13% CPU Usage Monkey's Audio - High = 33.7MB = ~7% CPU Usage This post has been edited by kotrtim: Nov 26 2004, 06:17 |
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Dec 9 2004, 18:43
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QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Dec 2 2004, 09:42 AM) I think it would be a good idea to add version numbers. The things said about speed and options are tied to certain versions. Example: wavpack was not so fast before the recent beta versions, some other codec might add hybrid/lossy from a future version on. The table is meant to always reflect the latest version available. QUOTE I understand that this would mean updating OK, but still, sometimes there's a version upgrade without any meaningful change that would justify updating the table. I would prefer that, when somebody notices there is something outdated in the table, post here and then I'll upload a new version. QUOTE (Faelix @ Dec 2 2004, 10:12 AM) Certainly people who don't care about hybrid encoding will not take this feature into account when evaluating lossless codecs, so I don't think it is necessary to diminish its place on the comparison table. (To me, for instance, hybrid encoding is a great selling point, and I think the table would be less helpful if it ignored this capability.) Yes. The table's purpose is precisely to allow people to compare codecs based only on the features that matter to them. So, nobody here willing to help me with TTA features and filling the blanks in the table? :B Just uploaded a new table with ReplayGain information, BTW. Regards; Roberto. -------------------- Get up-to-date binaries of Lame, AAC, Vorbis and much more at RareWares:
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kotrtim Which is the best lossless codec? Nov 26 2004, 05:40
rjamorim Thanks. I added "unefficient" to WMA... Nov 26 2004, 05:50
kotrtim roberto , i'm so sorry
wma compression is a bi... Nov 26 2004, 06:04
sshd 1. inefficient not unefficient
2. Neither FLAC no... Nov 26 2004, 06:09
guruboolez QUOTE (sshd @ Nov 26 2004, 06:09 AM)2. Neithe... Nov 26 2004, 14:40
jcoalson this table is nice, good to finally have a sticky ... Nov 28 2004, 11:51
sshd QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 28 2004, 11:51 AM)QUOTE... Nov 28 2004, 16:16
sehested QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 28 2004, 02:51 AM)for t... Nov 28 2004, 17:13
BoraBora Another lossless comparison (in french, but the ta... Nov 26 2004, 09:30
rjamorim QUOTE (kotrtim @ Nov 26 2004, 02:04 AM)I... Nov 26 2004, 13:12
Garf <zealot>
I see no reason to put very fast d... Nov 26 2004, 13:39
rjamorim QUOTE (Garf @ Nov 26 2004, 09:39 AM)<zealo... Nov 26 2004, 13:53
kurtnoise Some notes about RALF :
I made some quick tests w... Nov 26 2004, 14:44
guruboolez I forgot: nice initiative Roberto.
Two comments:
... Nov 26 2004, 14:44
kotrtim according to the player itself (Itunes n Real)
App... Nov 26 2004, 15:28
rjamorim QUOTE (guruboolez @ Nov 26 2004, 10:40 AM)I... Nov 26 2004, 18:36
HansHeijden QUOTE (rjamorim @ Nov 26 2004, 06:36 PM)Since... Nov 26 2004, 20:17
guruboolez Another suggestion: what about "adaptability... Nov 26 2004, 18:52
rjamorim QUOTE (guruboolez @ Nov 26 2004, 02:52 PM)Som... Nov 26 2004, 19:13
guruboolez I would say "none" rather than "bad... Nov 26 2004, 19:17
kotrtim QUOTE Haha, dude, you said yourself Real is very f... Nov 27 2004, 04:48
rjamorim QUOTE (HansHeijden @ Nov 26 2004, 04:17 PM)Ed... Nov 27 2004, 21:33
Zurman How about an overall notation system?
3 points for... Nov 28 2004, 20:56
guruboolez QUOTE (Zurman @ Nov 28 2004, 08:56 PM)How abo... Nov 29 2004, 10:18
BoraBora About OS support: I understand what it means, but ... Nov 28 2004, 23:50
WaldoMonster Nice work.
I'm missing native ReplayGain in t... Nov 28 2004, 23:52
rjamorim QUOTE (WaldoMonster @ Nov 28 2004, 07:52 PM)I... Nov 29 2004, 00:34
rjamorim QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 28 2004, 07:51 AM)for t... Nov 29 2004, 00:26
Zurman QUOTE (rjamorim @ Nov 28 2004, 03:26 PM)QUOTE... Nov 29 2004, 01:53

dev0 QUOTE (Zurman @ Nov 29 2004, 01:53 AM)Just to... Nov 29 2004, 06:33
BoraBora QUOTE (rjamorim @ Nov 29 2004, 01:26 AM)For l... Nov 29 2004, 09:20
jcoalson QUOTE (rjamorim @ Nov 28 2004, 06:26 PM)QUOTE... Nov 30 2004, 06:20
Tang Hi,
Very nice THREAD thanks to Amorim and every co... Nov 29 2004, 07:20
music_man_mpc QUOTE (Tang @ Nov 28 2004, 10:20 PM)Recently ... Nov 29 2004, 08:57
guruboolez QUOTE (music_man_mpc @ Nov 29 2004, 08:57 AM)... Nov 29 2004, 10:40
Tang QUOTE (guruboolez @ Nov 29 2004, 01:40 AM)QUO... Nov 30 2004, 04:35
rjamorim QUOTE (dev0 @ Nov 29 2004, 02:33 AM)I don... Nov 29 2004, 13:23
guruboolez QUOTE (rjamorim @ Nov 29 2004, 01:23 PM)Indee... Nov 29 2004, 14:22
rjamorim QUOTE (guruboolez @ Nov 29 2004, 10:22 AM)Is ... Nov 29 2004, 14:29
guruboolez You're right. I had in might asymetrical with ... Nov 29 2004, 14:34
GeSomeone RJAmorim,
I think it would be a good idea to add v... Dec 2 2004, 13:42
Faelix QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Dec 2 2004, 09:42 AM)Anoth... Dec 2 2004, 14:12
kurtnoise For TTA :
Encoding Speed : fast
Decoding Speed : ... Dec 9 2004, 19:21
rjamorim Excellent. Thank-you for the info. I just updates ... Dec 9 2004, 19:45
buzzy Nice work.
As some of the comments here suggest, ... Dec 9 2004, 20:56
rjamorim QUOTE (buzzy @ Dec 9 2004, 04:56 PM)As some o... Dec 10 2004, 21:13
buzzy Sorry, the comment about hardware support was a re... Dec 13 2004, 20:33
guruboolez LA has both seeking and tagging functionality. I c... Dec 9 2004, 21:08
Mindaxiz EDIT: --post deleted--
Looks like TTA has been ... Dec 9 2004, 22:44
Mindaxiz Rjamorim, you either edited the table super fast o... Dec 9 2004, 23:52
evereux This spreadsheet is an excellent reference, thanks... Dec 10 2004, 15:36
guruboolez very slow seeking could be highly irritating. I ne... Dec 10 2004, 15:48
rjamorim Hello. I just added a new table design, and would ... Dec 10 2004, 16:14
rjamorim I just edited the main post. Here are some comment... Dec 10 2004, 16:32
rjamorim Since I was already playing with my test streams, ... Dec 10 2004, 17:06
roweezy WMAL / WMA Lossless 9.1
DOES support 24bit / 24-b... Jan 1 2005, 04:23
Zurman I think there's a mistak in the table : Monkey... Jan 3 2005, 19:37
rjamorim QUOTE (Zurman @ Jan 3 2005, 03:37 PM)I think ... Jan 3 2005, 19:48
Zurman QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jan 3 2005, 10:48 AM)QUOTE ... Jan 3 2005, 20:08
Erich w/ an h are the percentages in the original post based on ... Jan 10 2005, 10:22
Skymmer Here is another suggestion and test... As you know... Jan 22 2005, 04:36
rjamorim Thanks for that test you did. I am considering add... Jan 24 2005, 00:05
jcoalson even better would be if a codec could store all AI... Jan 22 2005, 06:04
Skymmer Quite agree but I'm pretty sure that formats w... Jan 22 2005, 06:34
jcoalson QUOTE (Skymmer @ Jan 22 2005, 12:34 AM)Quite ... Jan 23 2005, 18:56
Skymmer OK. Again 10 seconds brown noise but without any m... Jan 22 2005, 07:22
Skymmer QUOTE (jcoalson @ Jan 23 2005, 08:56 PM)anywa... Jan 23 2005, 19:53
jcoalson QUOTE (Skymmer @ Jan 23 2005, 01:53 PM)QUOTE ... Jan 24 2005, 01:13
rjamorim QUOTE (jcoalson @ Jan 23 2005, 10:13 PM)my co... Jan 24 2005, 01:28
kjoonlee QUOTE (jcoalson @ Jan 24 2005, 09:13 AM)2. wh... Jan 24 2005, 03:01
Skymmer QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jan 24 2005, 02:05 AM)Thank... Jan 24 2005, 02:11
jcoalson QUOTE (Skymmer @ Jan 23 2005, 08:11 PM)QUOTE ... Jan 24 2005, 08:57
adlai my take as a dumb end-user.
MAC is the best. Best... Jan 24 2005, 02:35
Skymmer QUOTE (adlai @ Jan 24 2005, 04:35 AM)MAC is t... Jan 24 2005, 02:57
buzzy QUOTE (adlai @ Jan 23 2005, 08:35 PM)MAC is t... Feb 12 2005, 18:27
johnsonlam To be short: Everyone who create a free loseless c... Feb 12 2005, 18:48
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (jcoalson @ Jan 24 2005, 07:57 AM)QUOTE... Jan 24 2005, 09:38
rjamorim QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jan 24 2005, 06:38 AM... Jan 24 2005, 14:52
m0rbidini Is it difficult to guarantee full reconstruction o... Jan 24 2005, 10:23
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jan 24 2005, 01:52 PM)No fl... Jan 24 2005, 20:43
Mindaxiz QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jan 24 2005, 02:43 PM... Jan 24 2005, 21:11
rjamorim QUOTE (Mindaxiz @ Jan 24 2005, 06:11 PM)I am ... Jan 24 2005, 23:33
rjamorim QUOTE (Erich w/ an h @ Jan 10 2005, 07:22 AM)... Feb 2 2005, 04:54
guruboolez I've selected one mono album for my classical ... Feb 3 2005, 08:19
p0wder I recently converted from FLAC to Wavpack in order... Feb 3 2005, 10:10
Polar QUOTE (p0wder @ Feb 3 2005, 09:10 UTC)I'm... Feb 3 2005, 12:39
rjamorim QUOTE (guruboolez @ Feb 3 2005, 05:19 AM)I... Feb 3 2005, 15:30
rutra80 How about adding to the "Tagging" row th... Feb 8 2005, 20:35
WaldoMonster Adding "PIPE support" to the table would... Feb 11 2005, 15:46
rjamorim QUOTE (rutra80 @ Feb 8 2005, 05:35 PM)How abo... Feb 11 2005, 19:31
WaldoMonster QUOTE (rjamorim @ Feb 11 2005, 10:31 PM)Well,... Feb 11 2005, 22:43
rjamorim QUOTE (buzzy @ Feb 12 2005, 03:27 PM)An examp... Feb 12 2005, 23:17
johnsonlam QUOTE One sentence: competition is good.
I agree.... Feb 13 2005, 17:32![]() ![]() |
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