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grug
post Jul 7 2005, 06:49
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QUOTE (icedragon @ Jul 6 2005, 02:01 PM)
So, what are folks using to burn the AUDIO_TS directory?

Above, someone made an ISO with the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directory; I know Nero doesn't recognize AUDIO_TS -- is there anything that anyone else has been successful with besides Gear Pro?
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Uhh, Nero will burn it just fine. You just make a DVD-Video compilation and drag the dvdaripper output into the AUDIO_TS it makes.

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post Jul 7 2005, 11:41
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QUOTE (grug @ Jul 7 2005, 02:49 AM)
Uhh, Nero will burn it just fine. You just make a DVD-Video compilation and drag the dvdaripper output into the AUDIO_TS it makes.
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According to the guy that recommended me to host it at RW, DVD-As burned with Nero won't work on most players. The order in which the files are burned is important in DVD-A, and Nero - at least the version he has - doesn't know about this order.

That's why Gear is so strongly recommended in the readme.


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post Jul 7 2005, 15:18
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I found the original Russian pages in Google's cache and used an online translator to translate it to english:

http://www.online-translator.com/url/tu_bo...6ipcountry%3DUS

http://www.online-translator.com/url/tu_bo...6ipcountry%3DUS

Hope this helps
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post Jul 7 2005, 15:25
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Doesn't work here. The translator header keeps being repeated down the screen.

Also, the original russian page was located here:
http://dvdaripper.narod.ru/ (the developer pulled it down in face of the recent bru-ha-ha)

It didn't require translation.


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...and it's gone smile.gif

I got a phone call from a big local lawyer office (no fake, I checked the caller ID and the phone number really belongs to a lawyer office). They have been hired to make me stop distributing the DVD-A tools. It was a reasonably big talk, but I can summarize it with

They: we are giving you two choices, either you remove all references to those tools from your site now, or we'll have to take you to court.

Me: I'm already removing!

They: Thank-you for your cooperation.


Oh, well. It's been fun. I'm amazed at how well it spread in these two days (!), and I'm sure from now on you'll be able to find those tools in countless mirrors, p2p and the like.

Shine on!

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post Jul 7 2005, 18:13
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and another chapter in the DRM book passes. smile.gif


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post Jul 7 2005, 19:25
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Hope I'm not talking too much nonsense, but does that frequency analysis actually show that a song from The Doors has greater frequency content between 40-45 kHz than between 10-15kHz? Or is it a problem with either Audacity, the DVD-A authoring or my lack of knowledge on how to correctly read a frequency plot?

This is due to that fact, that signal and spectrum are digital.
Example:
Signal
__|______|______|
2Khz___3Khz___4Khz

Get a spectrum when every bar is at every 2Khz
What it will be ?
May be this:

________|______|_________
0Khz___2Khz___4Khz___6Kh

No.
This answer is wrong for digital representation.


Right answer will be:

=======|=====|=======
|_______|______|_______|
0Khz___2Khz___4Khz___6Kh

This is an effect of every frequency that has no exactly it's spectrum
counterpart to add a bit to every frequency in the spectrum.
So, digital spectrum can have any representation, even such a strange...

BTW:
Synaptic Line Noise, what you searched in google for ?
This freaking translator do not work, while I can read russian extremely well (because I'm russian smile.gif) so it would be interesting to see that article...

EDIT: ASCI graphs aren't my strongest talent sad.gif

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post Jul 7 2005, 19:39
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If you look at this spectrum analysis it looks kind of like the the content above 24000 kHz is a mirror of everything below 24000 kHz unsure.gif
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post Jul 7 2005, 19:40
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QUOTE (SirGrey @ Jul 7 2005, 01:25 PM)
This is an effect of every frequency that has no exactly it's spectrum
counterpart to add a bit to every frequency in the spectrum.
So, digital spectrum can have any representation, even such a strange...

Ummm.. I'd assume that the windowing was done correctly.
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If you look at this spectrum analysis it looks kind of like the the content above 24000 kHz is a mirror of everything below 24000 kHz

Interesting...
This can be a mastering trick...
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post Jul 7 2005, 19:44
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QUOTE (markanini @ Jul 7 2005, 08:39 PM)
If you look at this spectrum analysis it looks kind of like the the content above 24000 kHz is a mirror of everything below 24000 kHz unsure.gif
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post Jul 7 2005, 20:00
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QUOTE (ssamadhi97 @ Jul 7 2005, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (markanini @ Jul 7 2005, 08:39 PM)
If you look at this spectrum analysis it looks kind of like the the content above 24000 kHz is a mirror of everything below 24000 kHz unsure.gif
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Meet Mr. Aliasing.
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Hmm, so I guess the question now is if it was mastered that way or if it's WinDVD that introduces it.

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Hmm, so I guess the question now is if it was mastered that way or if it's WinDVD that introduces it.

My advice would be to test it on Metallica. These guys are always use new tech tricks. They even sell their songs in flac laugh.gif

EDIT: By the nature of this tools it can be the wrong samplerate selected too...

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post Jul 8 2005, 01:21
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I suspect Intervideo will be contacted and asked to patch their software lest their unique key that is used to decrypt the MKB be blacklisted and prevented from decrypting future titles. Actually, they may blacklist it and assign a new one anyway to force people to upgrade to a patched version if they want to play newer titles.

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I'm just wondering when using the method to copy DVD-Audio, is it exactly bit for bit perfect?

Compared to copying CD audio, some drives can and some can't copy audio bit for bit perfect. Thanks.
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post Jul 8 2005, 10:26
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Here is what I got on a scan of Enter Sandman in Audition...



Doesn't quite look like the one posted earlier by markanini.

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QUOTE (Kazuma @ Jul 8 2005, 01:26 AM)
Here is what I got on a scan of Enter Sandman in Audition...


Hm. Doesn't seem to have much in the way of high-frequency content.... Looks like you could make it sound as good on a CD, to be honest. (Although you might miss out on 5.1 sound; is this recording multichannel?)


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QUOTE (Canar @ Jul 8 2005, 04:37 AM)
QUOTE (Kazuma @ Jul 8 2005, 01:26 AM)
Here is what I got on a scan of Enter Sandman in Audition...


Hm. Doesn't seem to have much in the way of high-frequency content.... Looks like you could make it sound as good on a CD, to be honest. (Although you might miss out on 5.1 sound; is this recording multichannel?)
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Yes, it is multichannel.
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post Jul 8 2005, 12:34
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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jul 7 2005, 06:41 PM)
...and it's gone smile.gif

I got a phone call from a big local lawyer office (no fake, I checked the caller ID and the phone number really belongs to a lawyer office). They have been hired to make me stop distributing the DVD-A tools. It was a reasonably big talk, but I can summarize it with

They: we are giving you two choices, either you remove all references to those tools from your site now, or we'll have to take you to court.

Me: I'm already removing!

They: Thank-you for your cooperation.


Oh, well. It's been fun. I'm amazed at how well it spread in these two days (!), and I'm sure from now on you'll be able to find those tools in countless mirrors, p2p and the like.

Shine on!

R.
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QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 8 2005, 12:34 PM)

Cool.
I feel like experiencing a special moment in audio history...
Folks, especially cyaneyes (if you're still there): What about the mastering quality of DVD-As, now that you can analyse it in a wav editor ?


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post Jul 8 2005, 13:46
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Jesus, these guys will end up making a martyr out of me

Now we'll have DVD Jon and DVD-A Roberto :-P


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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jul 7 2005, 05:41 PM)
They: we are giving you two choices ...
Me: I'm already removing!
They: Thank you for your cooperation.

Oh, well. It's been fun. I'm amazed at how well it spread in these two days (!), and I'm sure from now on you'll be able to find those tools in countless mirrors, p2p and the like.

Shine on!

Hehe! biggrin.gif

thank you very much roberto!

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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jul 8 2005, 01:46 PM)
Now we'll have DVD Jon and DVD-A Roberto :-P
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No offense, but I'd rather think of DVD-A MaximA wink.gif
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QUOTE (Sgt_Strider @ Jul 8 2005, 02:38 AM)
I'm just wondering when using the method to copy DVD-Audio, is it exactly bit for bit perfect?

Compared to copying CD audio, some drives can and some can't copy audio bit for bit perfect. Thanks.
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I haven't tried it out, but I imagine it would. DVD-Audio, unlike CD-Audio, is stored as data on a DVD. Therefore it won't have the issues that CD-Audio streams have.


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