High bitrate MP3 vs. Lossless ABX Tests?, Are there any studies...? |
High bitrate MP3 vs. Lossless ABX Tests?, Are there any studies...? |
Jun 2 2005, 00:10
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Hi All,
I've been corrected before on this site for making the statement: "I can tell the difference between an MP3 and lossless". I've never ABX'ed myself but I was wondering if there has been a statistically significant (with regard to population) ABX study done with (say) Lame insane vs. Lossless? Clearly for myself it makes more sense to do a personal ABX but I was wondering in general about the population. I searched manually through the posts in this forum (since search seems useless for the term 'mp3') and didn't see anything. Thanks for help, ss. This post has been edited by Street Samurai: Jun 2 2005, 01:02 -------------------- http://www.informationaddiction.com
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Jun 3 2005, 00:13
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Group: Developer Posts: 1289 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 5541 |
yes yes, but what is the point of that? Okay, MP3 "a" sounds different than MPC "b". This means.... nothing.
So why would such a test be performed in the first place? Because the tester wants to prove that one of the two tracks sounds better. But of course, as you said, this just proves that they are DIFFERENT, not which is closer to the original. Tester however concludes that this difference supports their preference. A preference they are entitled, to, I might add, but it doesn't prove much else. Give me another example of why you'd ABX two lossy copies of a file. I can't think of one. This post has been edited by Jebus: Jun 3 2005, 00:17 |
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Street Samurai High bitrate MP3 vs. Lossless ABX Tests? Jun 2 2005, 00:10
Defsac You couldn't do an accurate statistically sign... Jun 2 2005, 03:23
Cyaneyes QUOTE (Defsac @ Jun 1 2005, 10:23 PM)You coul... Jun 2 2005, 03:46
Defsac QUOTE (Cyaneyes @ Jun 2 2005, 12:46 PM)And th... Jun 2 2005, 07:05
Shade[ST] QUOTE (Street Samurai @ Jun 1 2005, 05:10 PM)... Jun 2 2005, 03:30
skamp QUOTE (Street Samurai @ Jun 2 2005, 12:10 AM)... Jun 2 2005, 07:42
Street Samurai QUOTE (skamp @ Jun 1 2005, 11:42 PM)"los... Jun 2 2005, 18:43
Shade[ST] QUOTE (Street Samurai @ Jun 2 2005, 11:43 AM)... Jun 2 2005, 19:25
Lyx Why make it complicated:
Comparing lossy VS lossl... Jun 2 2005, 19:09
Street Samurai QUOTE I've done the search I referred to you, ... Jun 2 2005, 19:59
indybrett I believe that all of the listening tests compare ... Jun 2 2005, 20:58
Shade[ST] Basically, any codec that is transparent versus th... Jun 2 2005, 21:14
Jebus To summarize:
a) A "lossless to high-bitrate... Jun 2 2005, 21:32
Zurman QUOTE (Jebus @ Jun 2 2005, 12:32 PM)To summar... Jun 2 2005, 22:01
Lyx QUOTE (Zurman @ Jun 2 2005, 11:01 PM)True....... Jun 2 2005, 22:45
Jebus QUOTE (Zurman @ Jun 2 2005, 01:01 PM)QUOTE (J... Jun 2 2005, 23:12
stephanV QUOTE (Jebus @ Jun 3 2005, 12:12 AM)Okay, fai... Jun 2 2005, 23:22
Pensive I'm new, hi everyone, i want to make a suggest... Jun 3 2005, 00:11
Jebus QUOTE (Pensive @ Jun 2 2005, 03:11 PM)I'm... Jun 3 2005, 00:15

Pensive QUOTE (Jebus @ Jun 3 2005, 12:15 AM)QUOTE (Pe... Jan 29 2006, 00:39

William QUOTE (Pensive @ Jan 28 2006, 11:39 PM)For go... Jan 29 2006, 02:39

Pensive QUOTE Prove it with ABX results.
Okay, my post wa... Jan 29 2006, 12:21

William QUOTE (Pensive @ Jan 29 2006, 11:21 AM)Supply... Jan 29 2006, 16:34
Lyx QUOTE (Pensive @ Jun 3 2005, 01:11 AM)When i ... Jun 3 2005, 00:16
legg Related to the first posts...
Without the intentio... Jun 2 2005, 23:16
Woodinville Hmm, there's a bit of confusion in this thread... Jun 4 2005, 23:56
Lyx QUOTE (Woodinville @ Jun 5 2005, 12:56 AM)So,... Jun 5 2005, 02:14
Woodinville QUOTE (Lyx @ Jun 4 2005, 05:14 PM)The most so... Jun 5 2005, 02:26
Lyx QUOTE (Woodinville @ Jun 5 2005, 03:26 AM)Non... Jun 5 2005, 02:40
2Bdecided Woodinville,
I'm not quite sure what you... Jun 6 2005, 11:54
Woodinville QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jun 6 2005, 02:54 AM)Howev... Jun 6 2005, 18:46
ff123 A few things to note about Roberto's tests:
1... Jun 6 2005, 20:24
Zoom QUOTE (Pensive @ Jan 28 2006, 06:39 PM)For go... Jan 29 2006, 02:29
Pio2001 In case you don't browse the forum using the s... Jan 30 2006, 02:19
ff123 QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jan 29 2006, 05:19 PM)I... Jan 30 2006, 04:23![]() ![]() |
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