High bitrate MP3 vs. Lossless ABX Tests?, Are there any studies...? |
High bitrate MP3 vs. Lossless ABX Tests?, Are there any studies...? |
Jun 2 2005, 00:10
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Hi All,
I've been corrected before on this site for making the statement: "I can tell the difference between an MP3 and lossless". I've never ABX'ed myself but I was wondering if there has been a statistically significant (with regard to population) ABX study done with (say) Lame insane vs. Lossless? Clearly for myself it makes more sense to do a personal ABX but I was wondering in general about the population. I searched manually through the posts in this forum (since search seems useless for the term 'mp3') and didn't see anything. Thanks for help, ss. This post has been edited by Street Samurai: Jun 2 2005, 01:02 -------------------- http://www.informationaddiction.com
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Jan 29 2006, 02:29
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QUOTE (Pensive @ Jan 28 2006, 06:39 PM) For goodness sake read my post first. I believe you just violated one of your own TOS. I was saying that SACDs will make an MP3 collection sound bad, as opposed to say - an uncompressed CDDA library. If I was saying what you suggested then it wouldnt belong in this thread now would it? Also I'm sure SACDs will make reissues from the master vinyls of old records sound a lot better than a cd equivalent reissue, since it will support the full frequency ranges of audibility, and also has the dynamic range to cope without any processing whatsoever. Im sure you're all aware that they have to compress the audio samples to fit the dynamic range of AudioCDs, since you're all so very knowledgable. So far youve totally misunderstood a perfectly clear post, been completely arsey and called me a troll, and accused me of spreading misinformation. Its a great welcome to the forum. You know what you can do with your TOS. Cya My emphasis on "will" and "sure". ToS#8 "Hydrogenaudio is supposed to be an objectively minded community that relies on double-blind testing and relevant methods of comparison in discussion about sound quality..." That is the point I believe he was trying to get across. You cannot say without proof that SACD will make an mp3 file sound bad, unless you've done testing or cite testing that proves this. This has been discussed over and over on HA. If you aren't going to go about comparisons based on scientific merit, and instead focus on purported capabilities then you are in violation of ToS#8. |
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Street Samurai High bitrate MP3 vs. Lossless ABX Tests? Jun 2 2005, 00:10
Defsac You couldn't do an accurate statistically sign... Jun 2 2005, 03:23
Cyaneyes QUOTE (Defsac @ Jun 1 2005, 10:23 PM)You coul... Jun 2 2005, 03:46
Defsac QUOTE (Cyaneyes @ Jun 2 2005, 12:46 PM)And th... Jun 2 2005, 07:05
Shade[ST] QUOTE (Street Samurai @ Jun 1 2005, 05:10 PM)... Jun 2 2005, 03:30
skamp QUOTE (Street Samurai @ Jun 2 2005, 12:10 AM)... Jun 2 2005, 07:42
Street Samurai QUOTE (skamp @ Jun 1 2005, 11:42 PM)"los... Jun 2 2005, 18:43
Shade[ST] QUOTE (Street Samurai @ Jun 2 2005, 11:43 AM)... Jun 2 2005, 19:25
Lyx Why make it complicated:
Comparing lossy VS lossl... Jun 2 2005, 19:09
Street Samurai QUOTE I've done the search I referred to you, ... Jun 2 2005, 19:59
indybrett I believe that all of the listening tests compare ... Jun 2 2005, 20:58
Shade[ST] Basically, any codec that is transparent versus th... Jun 2 2005, 21:14
Jebus To summarize:
a) A "lossless to high-bitrate... Jun 2 2005, 21:32
Zurman QUOTE (Jebus @ Jun 2 2005, 12:32 PM)To summar... Jun 2 2005, 22:01
Lyx QUOTE (Zurman @ Jun 2 2005, 11:01 PM)True....... Jun 2 2005, 22:45
Jebus QUOTE (Zurman @ Jun 2 2005, 01:01 PM)QUOTE (J... Jun 2 2005, 23:12
stephanV QUOTE (Jebus @ Jun 3 2005, 12:12 AM)Okay, fai... Jun 2 2005, 23:22
Pensive I'm new, hi everyone, i want to make a suggest... Jun 3 2005, 00:11
Jebus QUOTE (Pensive @ Jun 2 2005, 03:11 PM)I'm... Jun 3 2005, 00:15

Pensive QUOTE (Jebus @ Jun 3 2005, 12:15 AM)QUOTE (Pe... Jan 29 2006, 00:39

William QUOTE (Pensive @ Jan 28 2006, 11:39 PM)For go... Jan 29 2006, 02:39

Pensive QUOTE Prove it with ABX results.
Okay, my post wa... Jan 29 2006, 12:21

William QUOTE (Pensive @ Jan 29 2006, 11:21 AM)Supply... Jan 29 2006, 16:34
Lyx QUOTE (Pensive @ Jun 3 2005, 01:11 AM)When i ... Jun 3 2005, 00:16
legg Related to the first posts...
Without the intentio... Jun 2 2005, 23:16
Jebus yes yes, but what is the point of that? Okay, MP3 ... Jun 3 2005, 00:13
Woodinville Hmm, there's a bit of confusion in this thread... Jun 4 2005, 23:56
Lyx QUOTE (Woodinville @ Jun 5 2005, 12:56 AM)So,... Jun 5 2005, 02:14
Woodinville QUOTE (Lyx @ Jun 4 2005, 05:14 PM)The most so... Jun 5 2005, 02:26
Lyx QUOTE (Woodinville @ Jun 5 2005, 03:26 AM)Non... Jun 5 2005, 02:40
2Bdecided Woodinville,
I'm not quite sure what you... Jun 6 2005, 11:54
Woodinville QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jun 6 2005, 02:54 AM)Howev... Jun 6 2005, 18:46
ff123 A few things to note about Roberto's tests:
1... Jun 6 2005, 20:24
Pio2001 In case you don't browse the forum using the s... Jan 30 2006, 02:19
ff123 QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jan 29 2006, 05:19 PM)I... Jan 30 2006, 04:23![]() ![]() |
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