Could we add gapless to Apple's AAC encoder?, task for iTunesencode or other? |
Could we add gapless to Apple's AAC encoder?, task for iTunesencode or other? |
Jun 21 2005, 08:11
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I have a question about a possible new iTunesEncode feature (or any other program driving Apple's AAC encoder). Wouldn't it be possible to add a gapless feature? It might sound silly, but after all, nyaochi did it with the latest Fraunhofer MP3 encoder (here and here). I'm not a coding expert -I'm not a coder at all- but I think that doing it wouldn't be an impossible task.
Adding somewhere in the tags the precise offset (constant for Apple's encoder) and calculating the amount of padded sample maybe suffice? I don't really know. faac and Nero AAC are gapless, and apparently Apple is not hurry to implement this feature. It's a pity, because Apple's encoder is pretty good. Gapless playback is not possible on any iPod, but on a computer (playing with foobar2000 as exemple) users would benefits from it. Could we reproduce Nyaochi's ACMenc patch to work with iTunes? Or make something similar? What do you think? |
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Jun 29 2005, 02:58
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QUOTE (nyaochi @ Jun 27 2005, 06:03 AM) 1) but Ivan posted in the thread, "Next revision of nero encoder will have Nero Digital Gapless data embedded in the MP4 file, fully compatible with the ISO File Format guidelines." I'm not a developer of MPEG-4 AAC encoder and don't want to propose another specification while Nero Digital Gapless data is about to be released (or already been released?) by a major MPEG-4 AAC developer. Yes, perhaps it is best to wait. The really nifty part is since Apple does not seem interested in 'true' gapless then perhaps only Nero's spec will become common in the AAC gapless world, allowing for greater compatibility. Very good work nyaochi with your earlier test, I think now it is better understood (at least by me) where we stand on iTunes gapless. This post has been edited by Tropican: Jun 29 2005, 02:59 |
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guruboolez Could we add gapless to Apple's AAC encoder? Jun 21 2005, 08:11
Otto42 Short answer: no.
Long answer: yes, but I'm n... Jun 21 2005, 18:25
Mike Giacomelli QUOTE (Otto42 @ Jun 21 2005, 09:25 AM)Short a... Jun 22 2005, 05:35
Gabriel QUOTE How would you get the encoder delay out of i... Jun 22 2005, 08:56
Tropican This may be a dumb question, but if the encoding d... Jun 21 2005, 23:55
nyaochi I don't know much about AAC and MP4 container ... Jun 22 2005, 01:40
Tropican QUOTE (nyaochi @ Jun 21 2005, 07:40 PM)We nee... Jun 22 2005, 02:19
nyaochi QUOTE (Tropican @ Jun 22 2005, 10:19 AM)How d... Jun 22 2005, 03:11
Tropican Sorry, my last post was poorly written.
QUOTE (ny... Jun 22 2005, 04:10
Tropican QUOTE (Gabriel @ Jun 22 2005, 02:56 AM)you ha... Jun 22 2005, 22:31
M Pardon my ignorance on the technicalities involved... Jun 23 2005, 02:37
soundcheck QUOTE (M @ Jun 22 2005, 09:37 PM)Pardon my ig... Jun 23 2005, 06:31
bond QUOTE (soundcheck @ Jun 23 2005, 07:31 AM)QUO... Jun 23 2005, 20:20
soundcheck QUOTE (bond @ Jun 23 2005, 03:20 PM)QUOTE (so... Jun 23 2005, 23:06
bond QUOTE (soundcheck @ Jun 24 2005, 12:06 AM)The... Jun 24 2005, 09:22
soundcheck QUOTE (bond @ Jun 24 2005, 04:22 AM)hm could ... Jun 24 2005, 21:00
Mono Actually that's Apple's official stance:
Q... Jun 23 2005, 04:13
westgroveg I think guruboolez needs CASE. Jun 23 2005, 05:55
bond ok so its seems to be indeed a non-mp4 file, thx... Jun 25 2005, 10:09
soundcheck QUOTE (bond @ Jun 25 2005, 05:09 AM)ok so its... Jun 25 2005, 18:29
M QUOTE (soundcheck @ Jun 25 2005, 12:29 PM)I t... Jun 25 2005, 19:13
bond can you run mp4box's -info on the itunes audib... Jun 25 2005, 19:05
nyaochi Since no one seems to take this task, I read the s... Jun 27 2005, 03:04
rjamorim QUOTE (nyaochi @ Jun 26 2005, 11:04 PM)Does a... Jun 27 2005, 03:57
Juho Vähä-Herttua I just implemented true gapless playback of AAC fi... May 2 2006, 13:56
bond somehow i get the feeling that this "hacking... Jun 27 2005, 09:59
nyaochi Thanks for the info, rjamorim and bond
To summa... Jun 27 2005, 12:03
loophole http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/chaptertr... Jun 29 2005, 05:04
Fofer Great info here, looks like this is a great way fo... Jul 10 2005, 17:04
cvkslashdot Check my tutorial w/ images if you have a mac:
ht... Jul 20 2005, 01:15
Otto42 This isn't really "gapless" as I see... Jul 20 2005, 16:35
nyaochi I bet Apple will implement the gapless feature in ... Jul 20 2005, 16:49
e-San I know topic seems to be dead but i am quite shure... Mar 28 2011, 09:10![]() ![]() |
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