Multiformat Listening Test @ 128 kbps - OPEN |
Multiformat Listening Test @ 128 kbps - OPEN |
Dec 5 2005, 16:17
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Hello!
I would like to announce the launch of my public, multiformat listening test @ 128 kbps. The encoders featured are:
http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf_128_1.php Update: The test was extended to end on January 13th, 2006. Thank you! Regards, Sebastian Mares This post has been edited by Sebastian Mares: Dec 31 2005, 20:58 -------------------- http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/sebastian/
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Dec 6 2005, 22:00
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That is true, too.
-------------------- http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/sebastian/
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Dec 6 2005, 22:13
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QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 11:00 PM) And you have to remember that the people taking a test like this probably vary a lot when it comes to training and skill, so the results can never be seen as representative for say 'average listeners' or 'pedantic listeners' - it's most likely a mix of all kinds. -------------------- davidnaylor.org
Vorbis Q4, please. AoTuv b5, preferably. |
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Dec 6 2005, 23:19
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QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 6 2005, 10:13 PM) QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 11:00 PM) And you have to remember that the people taking a test like this probably vary a lot when it comes to training and skill, so the results can never be seen as representative for say 'average listeners' or 'pedantic listeners' - it's most likely a mix of all kinds. One thing I didn't consider - when person X says that sample Y has an artifact at postition 123, then person Z is going to keep testing and testing sample Y because he knows that it has an artifact. -------------------- http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/sebastian/
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Dec 7 2005, 00:57
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QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 7 2005, 12:19 AM) One thing I didn't consider - when person X says that sample Y has an artifact at postition 123, then person Z is going to keep testing and testing sample Y because he knows that it has an artifact. But this would only be unfair if that specific artifact is only spotable with encoder A, but encoder B has noticable artifacts at different positions. If this is not the case it would be an improvement for the test results IMHO -- because you get real ratings instead of all 5.0s. |
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Dec 7 2005, 01:48
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QUOTE (caligae @ Dec 6 2005, 09:57 PM) If this is not the case it would be an improvement for the test results IMHO -- because you get real ratings instead of all 5.0s. You also get artificial results, as people might listen again and again, paying much more attention than they normally would. -------------------- Get up-to-date binaries of Lame, AAC, Vorbis and much more at RareWares:
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Dec 7 2005, 06:54
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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Dec 7 2005, 02:48 AM) QUOTE (caligae @ Dec 6 2005, 09:57 PM) If this is not the case it would be an improvement for the test results IMHO -- because you get real ratings instead of all 5.0s. You also get artificial results, as people might listen again and again, paying much more attention than they normally would. But then again, that is true for any listening tests. Or do you suggest we just listen to every sample once, as if we were only 'enjoying the music', and then rate everything at 5.0? However, I will respect Sebastians request not to ask/answer questions like that. And nobody has gone against him since he stated his opinion on the matter. -------------------- davidnaylor.org
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Dec 7 2005, 06:59
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QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 7 2005, 06:54 AM) QUOTE (rjamorim @ Dec 7 2005, 02:48 AM) QUOTE (caligae @ Dec 6 2005, 09:57 PM) If this is not the case it would be an improvement for the test results IMHO -- because you get real ratings instead of all 5.0s. You also get artificial results, as people might listen again and again, paying much more attention than they normally would. But then again, that is true for any listening tests. Or do you suggest we just listen to every sample once, as if we were only 'enjoying the music', and then rate everything at 5.0? However, I will respect Sebastians request not to ask/answer questions like that. And nobody has gone against him since he stated his opinion on the matter. No, it's OK to re-listen to the song as many times as you want. However, when someone says that sample XYZ has an artifact, you are not going to let go until you spotted it because you know there is an artifact there. -------------------- http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/sebastian/
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Sebastian Mares Multiformat Listening Test @ 128 kbps - OPEN Dec 5 2005, 16:17
Sebastian Mares For those using BitTorrent, statistics are availab... Dec 5 2005, 16:19
ff123 Can you reformat the readme.txt file so that it wr... Dec 5 2005, 16:39
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (ff123 @ Dec 5 2005, 04:39 PM)Can you r... Dec 5 2005, 16:40
schnofler Just a little note: If you can't hear sound wh... Dec 5 2005, 17:24
ShowsOn QUOTE (schnofler @ Dec 6 2005, 01:24 AM)Just ... Dec 5 2005, 17:27
IgorC aacenc32.dll ver. 3.1.0.2. Nero7 has 3.0.0.2. I... Dec 5 2005, 17:36
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 5 2005, 05:36 PM)aacenc32.... Dec 5 2005, 17:40
IgorC QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 5 2005, 08:40 AM... Dec 5 2005, 17:49
Alex B I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fi... Dec 5 2005, 17:42
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 05:42 PM)I made a... Dec 5 2005, 17:44
Alex B QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 06:42 PM)I made a... Dec 5 2005, 19:45
Alex B Use it as you like. Be my guest.
Typos (if i reme... Dec 5 2005, 17:49
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 05:49 PM)Use it a... Dec 5 2005, 17:54
Gambit Conduct, conduct, conduct... Dec 5 2005, 17:54
Alex B They were like this after I pasted the text file i... Dec 5 2005, 18:00
Alex B Sebastian,
The TorrentStorm link in my html is wr... Dec 5 2005, 18:41
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 06:41 PM)Sebastia... Dec 5 2005, 18:45
Alex B I have currently 18 BitTornado clients running. It... Dec 5 2005, 19:01
Gambit QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 07:01 PM)I have c... Dec 5 2005, 19:05
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (Gambit @ Dec 5 2005, 07:05 PM)Oh, and ... Dec 5 2005, 19:16
eisa01 Hey, I'm wondering if I should try and partici... Dec 5 2005, 19:06
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (eisa01 @ Dec 5 2005, 07:06 PM)Hey, I... Dec 5 2005, 19:18
IgorC Hm ... Why nobody care about final size? Itīs alre... Dec 5 2005, 19:55
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 5 2005, 07:55 PM)Hm ... Wh... Dec 5 2005, 20:04
IgorC QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 5 2005, 11:04 AM... Dec 5 2005, 20:12
Garf If bittorrent is an issue, they can go as HTTP or ... Dec 5 2005, 19:56
ep0ch Why are there 18 torrents and not just one big one... Dec 5 2005, 20:03
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (ep0ch @ Dec 5 2005, 08:03 PM)Why are t... Dec 5 2005, 20:06
jetpower QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 5 2005, 09:06 PM... Dec 5 2005, 20:17
Sebastian Mares OK, as I said, I am going to forward this to Rober... Dec 5 2005, 20:33
sTisTi Oh damn, these codecs are really too good for me ... Dec 5 2005, 21:10
Shade[ST] Sample 2 has one of them with quite noticeable low... Dec 5 2005, 21:27
sTisTi QUOTE (Shade[ST] @ Dec 5 2005, 09:27... Dec 5 2005, 22:31
naylor83 QUOTE (Shade[ST] @ Dec 5 2005, 10:27... Dec 6 2005, 16:23
Shade[ST] QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 6 2005, 09:23 AM)QUOTE ... Dec 6 2005, 19:52
naylor83 Oh my... This is not going to be easy...
Think... Dec 5 2005, 22:30
naylor83 Oh, btw - ABC/HR seems to start playing the sample... Dec 5 2005, 23:06
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 5 2005, 11:06 PM)Oh, bt... Dec 5 2005, 23:07
naylor83 QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 12:07 AM... Dec 5 2005, 23:13
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 5 2005, 11:13 PM)QUOTE ... Dec 5 2005, 23:23
schnofler QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 5 2005, 02:13 PM)What I... Dec 5 2005, 23:24
naylor83 QUOTE (schnofler @ Dec 6 2005, 12:24 AM)QUOTE... Dec 5 2005, 23:31
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 5 2005, 11:31 PM)QUOTE ... Dec 5 2005, 23:33

naylor83 QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 12:33 AM... Dec 5 2005, 23:35
schnofler QUOTE (naylor83 @ Dec 5 2005, 02:31 PM)QUOTE ... Dec 5 2005, 23:42
naylor83 QUOTE (schnofler @ Dec 6 2005, 12:42 AM)That ... Dec 5 2005, 23:56
rjamorim Here's the torrent with all samples:
http://ww... Dec 5 2005, 23:30
skelly831 For a 128kbps test, this if f'ing hard!
Th... Dec 6 2005, 01:59
rjamorim QUOTE (skelly831 @ Dec 5 2005, 10:59 PM)For a... Dec 6 2005, 02:15
skelly831 QUOTE (rjamorim @ Dec 5 2005, 05:15 PM)QUOTE ... Dec 6 2005, 02:27
rjamorim QUOTE (skelly831 @ Dec 5 2005, 11:27 PM)LOL... Dec 6 2005, 02:52
skelly831 QUOTE (rjamorim @ Dec 5 2005, 05:52 PM)I have... Dec 6 2005, 02:56
jido Ok, so who wrote a *nix script to decompress all t... Dec 6 2005, 03:23
ErikS QUOTE (jido @ Dec 6 2005, 04:23 AM)Ok, so who... Dec 6 2005, 05:52

Sebastian Mares QUOTE (ErikS @ Dec 6 2005, 05:52 AM)...
Tha... Dec 6 2005, 09:13
caligae QUOTE (jido @ Dec 6 2005, 04:23 AM)Ok, so who... Dec 6 2005, 09:19
eisa01 QUOTE (caligae @ Dec 6 2005, 09:19 AM)QUOTE (... Dec 6 2005, 15:14
ronnie_t I will be hosting the files on razorback2
CODEed2k... Dec 6 2005, 04:43
martythestickman hey guys.
just finished setting up all the files... Dec 6 2005, 08:00
Sebastian Mares Could someone announce the test on D9 and /. pleas... Dec 6 2005, 09:35
kurtnoise QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 09:35 AM... Dec 6 2005, 10:25
kwanbis whats D9? Dec 6 2005, 13:25
Alex B http://www.doom9.org/
http://slashdot.org/ Dec 6 2005, 13:29
kwanbis i was think in of digg.com ... we should digg it Dec 6 2005, 13:52
Atreus Digg it! Let's try to get this test on th... Dec 6 2005, 16:35
ep0ch Doesn't telling everyone where the artifacts a... Dec 6 2005, 20:04
sTisTi QUOTE (ep0ch @ Dec 6 2005, 08:04 PM)Doesn... Dec 6 2005, 20:37

Sebastian Mares QUOTE (sTisTi @ Dec 6 2005, 08:37 PM)QUOTE (e... Dec 6 2005, 20:44

naylor83 QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 09:44 PM... Dec 6 2005, 21:52
naylor83 QUOTE (ep0ch @ Dec 6 2005, 09:04 PM)Doesn... Dec 6 2005, 21:47
Sebastian Mares It is. Dec 6 2005, 20:07
IgorC VBR can produce different size. It will be normal ... Dec 6 2005, 20:20
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 6 2005, 08:20 PM)VBR can p... Dec 6 2005, 20:46
IgorC QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 6 2005, 11:46 AM... Dec 6 2005, 20:52

Sebastian Mares QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 6 2005, 08:52 PM)So if Ner... Dec 6 2005, 21:34
Alex B The sample bitrates are completely irrelevant and ... Dec 6 2005, 20:58
Lyx QUOTE But then again, that is true for any listeni... Dec 7 2005, 07:03
rjamorim Jesus Christ!
Discussing artifacts ist verbot... Dec 6 2005, 23:05
Sebastian Mares Edit: Roberto was faster. Dec 6 2005, 23:06
eisa01 My fear is that I'll only be able to figure ou... Dec 7 2005, 01:53
Oliver QUOTE (eisa01 @ Dec 6 2005, 08:53 PM)My fear ... Dec 7 2005, 03:09
markanini So far I've done three samples and sure it... Dec 7 2005, 02:28
Dibrom It has already been requested twice that people st... Dec 7 2005, 03:12
Shade[ST] I found an issue with the delivered ABC/HR program... Dec 7 2005, 04:10
ErikS QUOTE (Shade[ST] @ Dec 7 2005, 05:10... Dec 7 2005, 04:32

Shade[ST] I am using the latest JRE. I reformatted two days ... Dec 7 2005, 05:03

naylor83 QUOTE (Shade[ST] @ Dec 7 2005, 06:03... Dec 7 2005, 06:51
caligae QUOTE (Shade[ST] @ Dec 7 2005, 05:10... Dec 7 2005, 09:09
Shade[ST] QUOTE (caligae @ Dec 7 2005, 02:09 AM)I don... Dec 7 2005, 09:26
plonk420 RareWares seems to be sending .TORRENT files as wr... Dec 7 2005, 07:57
SpacemanSpiff0x0 Holy crap, I just finished the test and I must say... Dec 7 2005, 08:01
Shade[ST] QUOTE (SpacemanSpiff0x0 @ Dec 7 2005, 01:01 A... Dec 7 2005, 08:09![]() ![]() |
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