Effect of MP3 on Stereo Subliminals/Hemi-Sync, Esp. JS... Does it affect the effect? |
Effect of MP3 on Stereo Subliminals/Hemi-Sync, Esp. JS... Does it affect the effect? |
Dec 7 2005, 20:25
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I was wondering if anyone out there who has ever worked with holographic subliminal messages in audio, or hemi-sync (where slightly different frequency tones are played in each ear through headphones) have experimented with, or at least read of a study done to see if lossy audio encoding has a destructive effect on these technologies.
I'm concerned that subliminal audio and hemi-sync might partly be based on sounds that the human brain doesn't readily perceive, and thus the encoding process might "throw away" sound that is required for subliminal audio to be effective. I'm especially concerned about whether joint stereo will wreck the effect of these techniques, since they are based on stereo separation of sound. Would it? Should I force encoding to actual stereo, or is Joint Stereo okay for this stuff? I try to use lossless for this stuff wherever possible, but obviously that's not always practical. Any informed responses much appreciated! |
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Dec 18 2006, 23:36
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So when a company releasing this type of audio states that only uncompressed files will work, what is its motivation/cause to do so? Cursory testing of lossy/lossless codecs? Maintaining a simple, easily-enforcable product support policy?
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Dec 19 2006, 13:52
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So when a company releasing this type of audio states that only uncompressed files will work, what is its motivation/cause to do so? You have to tweak the command line options in order to get a proper lossy encoding (enforcing CBR in mp3). The standard setup of a lossy encoder produces a poor result. Why not try other codecs ? |
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Supacon Effect of MP3 on Stereo Subliminals/Hemi-Sync Dec 7 2005, 20:25
unfortunateson QUOTE MP3 compression works by removing high-frequ... Dec 7 2005, 20:43
Pio2001 With Lame 3.96.1, on a wav file made of a -6 dB 40... Dec 7 2005, 21:09
Supacon I really appreciate the replies, guys, but I'm... Dec 13 2005, 00:17
Pio2001 QUOTE (Supacon @ Dec 13 2005, 01:17 AM)I real... Dec 13 2005, 03:42
Ivan Dimkovic I think we already have a tutorial about "Joi... Dec 13 2005, 00:26
Lyx Why cant LAME just rename joint-stereo to "sm... Dec 13 2005, 00:32
damaki It has been said on this board that lame had probl... Dec 13 2005, 01:08
Pio2001 Sample :
-6 dB 400 Hz sine on the left channel
-6 ... Dec 13 2005, 03:45
Supacon Thanks so much Pio2001, for clarifying that a bit.... Dec 13 2005, 11:10
Pio2001 No, this is not really the case. This kind of soun... Dec 13 2005, 17:31
sheh What exactly is "holographic subliminal messa... Dec 13 2005, 20:08
Lyx QUOTE (sheh @ Dec 13 2005, 08:08 PM)What exac... Dec 13 2005, 21:19
Halcyon QUOTE (sheh @ Dec 13 2005, 09:08 PM)What exac... Dec 13 2005, 21:20
Supacon Actually, "holographic subliminal messages... Dec 14 2005, 02:37
sheh QUOTE (Supacon @ Dec 14 2005, 03:37 AM)The id... Dec 14 2005, 03:27
Supacon While on the subject, although this is the wrong a... Dec 14 2005, 02:54
Pio2001 I confirm that in CBR, the 10 Hz beating between 4... Dec 14 2005, 04:25
Supacon Pio2001, do you mean in any bitrate, or at 320 kbi... Dec 14 2005, 08:59
Pio2001 QUOTE (Supacon @ Dec 14 2005, 09:59 AM)Pio200... Dec 14 2005, 16:54

sketchy_c QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Dec 20 2006, 10:50) I ... Dec 21 2006, 10:28
Gabriel QUOTE (sketchy_c @ Dec 18 2006, 23:36) So... Dec 19 2006, 15:19
jmartis QUOTE (Gabriel @ Dec 19 2006, 15:19) QUOT... Dec 19 2006, 15:30
AndyH-ha They hope it will lead to less theft. Dec 19 2006, 00:38
Firon Not having a clue; using lousy codecs; using low b... Dec 19 2006, 00:39
Pio2001 ...and of course, lossless compression destroys th... Dec 19 2006, 23:35
Jebus Lossless codecs, like, ruin the whole VIBE, man... Dec 20 2006, 00:13
Firon Clearly, the extra processing that lossless requir... Dec 20 2006, 02:39
SirChristof My friend has a ton of his CD's encoded in app... Dec 20 2006, 07:00
Firon Yes. Assuming there isn't some sort of bug wit... Dec 20 2006, 07:47
cabbagerat QUOTE (SirChristof @ Dec 19 2006, 22:00) ... Dec 20 2006, 09:29
2Bdecided I think most people here know (but it's worth ... Dec 20 2006, 11:50![]() ![]() |
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