--xlevel With Mpc? |
--xlevel With Mpc? |
Oct 26 2002, 04:35
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Can someone tell me the plusses and minuses of using -xlevel? There seems to be a significant minority of MPC user who rely on this switch. The ducumentation is pretty sparce, something about an alternate clipping prevention scheme.
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Oct 26 2002, 13:22
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Okay, here again is a summary i posted in an older thread:
QUOTE What is the --xlevel switch good for? > It prevents the internal clipping error in MPC SV7 (current StreamVersion). > I think, when the codec was designed, Andree Buschmann couldn't imagine > that one day the CDs would be as heavily overdriven as they are now. Quoting Frank Klemm: > This error is a design error of SV7. It was underestimated that > CDs can be permanently clipped with hundreds of clipped > samples at the one end jumping directly to some hundred > samples clipped on the other end. Affected files have a serious > degeneration of audio quality behind. If you would press vinyl > with such a level the playtime will be around 8...9 minutes per > page due to the huge excursions. > Normally such files should be reconstructed using some audio restauration > software to reduce distortions below 7%. > Please also note that most sound cards can't handle full scale > audio. They distore below 0 dB, you don't need digital overloads. What happens during internal clipping, quoting Andree Buschmann: > Let's say the scalefactor range is not enough, then the subband-samples > will exceed the allowed range and the samples will be hardclipped! > The decoder cannot reconstruct the original waveform (even if gaining it by -x dB). What the --xlevel switch does to prevent this, quoting Frank Klemm: > It uses scale factors outside 0...63, which is mostly possible by > relative addressing (instead of the 6 bit absolute addressing). > The first solution [hard-clipping] is compatible with all decoders, > but generates higher coding errors, the second solution [--xlevel] > can only be played by Klemm-based decoders (which support scale from -4...127). My advice is to use --xlevel, the compatibility is really not such a problem. All newer decoders are compatible. The last incompatible decoder is from mid-2001. |
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Rizban76 --xlevel With Mpc? Oct 26 2002, 04:35
westgroveg I also would like to know what experienced people ... Oct 26 2002, 05:09
ErikS Ehm. It's not a minus that it doesn't remo... Oct 26 2002, 06:41
don_pipo_corleone so using --xlevel will prevent coding errors due t... Oct 26 2002, 13:38
ErikS Sort of, yes. But it's not scaling as you do w... Oct 26 2002, 13:46
don_pipo_corleone questions:
is the original level restored after de... Oct 26 2002, 13:56
ErikS QUOTE is the original level restored after decodin... Oct 26 2002, 14:03
don_pipo_corleone QUOTE (ErikS @ Oct 26 2002 - 01:03 PM)Yes... Oct 26 2002, 14:08
Rizban76 Sounds good. I'll add --xlevel to my command l... Oct 26 2002, 18:24![]() ![]() |
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