Yet another lossless audio compressor..., Would it make any sense? |
Yet another lossless audio compressor..., Would it make any sense? |
Apr 1 2006, 03:04
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TAK Developer Group: Developer Posts: 1043 Joined: 1-April 06 Member No.: 29051 |
Hi,
(sorry, my english isn't very good...) i have been working (for fun) on lossless audio compression since about 1997. Finally i would like to bring this thing (especially the never-ending-search for just a tenth of a percent more compression...) to an end. In the light of the big bunch of existing Compressors, i am not quite sure, if it would be of any use to add one more Compressor to the public. The preparations for a useful release would be much further work, and i wouldn't like to waste my time for something not needed. My Compressor uses similar techniques like FLAC, but far more elaborated. Compression ratios lie between Monkey's Audios High- and Extra-High-Mode (Can be better than Extra High at the expense of a considerable increase of encoding time). Encoding Speed is a bit slower than Monkey's, Decoding Speed is much higher on most Files. Seek-Times should also be better cause of the maximum (independent) frame length of 250 ms. I would like to read some opinions. Would it make any sense to release it? Thanks Thomas |
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Apr 2 2006, 18:04
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QUOTE (Cartman_Sr @ Apr 2 2006, 09:15 AM) Oh god, I'm afraided it but why FLAC? Don't think that I'm flaming but I just don't like direct biasing. QUOTE (Mo0zOoH @ Apr 2 2006, 05:30 PM) I don't really think your codec will survive in an ongoing lossless competition without some extra features and/or promotion Agree, but partly. Lossless compressors are always have been pieces of software mainly for experinced and interested users so even if your compressor will have only one extra feuture - it will have success, although among quite limited group of users. For TBeck I can only advise the following: + Make your compressor open-source to spread it everywhere without limits + First of all develope the format. In ideal it must: - support any kind of input files. 8/16/24/32 bit/IEEE float, mono/2 channel/multichannel, any sample rate. - support non-audio data embeded into files (RIFF chunks) - be error resistant. At least error detection and decode-throught-errors, at most the error correction. - provide tagging possibility. APEv2 tags are highly recomended. - be asymmetric but providing high compression ratios, same or better than Monkey's Audio. - be very fast at decoding and to be hardware friendly - provide ReplayGain support - provide possibility to improve compression ratios without breaking the backward compatibility - provide full Unicode support + After you developed the format just provide native reference compilations for most well known platforms and also plugins for at least 2-3 famous players on such platforms. Also support for burning/editing applications will be just great. Good luck ! This post has been edited by Skymmer: Apr 2 2006, 18:46 -------------------- Gabber, Jazz and IDM
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TBeck Yet another lossless audio compressor... Apr 1 2006, 03:04
kornchild2002 In the beginning, I really didn't understand l... Apr 1 2006, 03:48
TBeck QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Apr 1 2006, 04:48 AM)U... Apr 1 2006, 04:28
neomoe QUOTE (TBeck @ Mar 31 2006, 07:28 PM)QUOTE (k... Apr 1 2006, 09:18
jcoalson QUOTE (TBeck @ Mar 31 2006, 10:28 PM)Building... Apr 2 2006, 06:51
TBeck QUOTE (jcoalson @ Apr 2 2006, 07:51 AM)I woul... Apr 2 2006, 18:16
TBeck QUOTE (jcoalson @ Apr 2 2006, 07:51 AM)it sti... Apr 2 2006, 19:40
Shade[ST] Is there any way we can get a sourcecode release o... Apr 2 2006, 20:20
jcoalson QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 2 2006, 01:40 PM)QUOTE (jc... Apr 3 2006, 01:33
TBeck QUOTE (jcoalson @ Apr 3 2006, 02:33 AM)Thomas... Apr 3 2006, 02:02
William In my opinion, competition is always welcome. Take... Apr 1 2006, 03:48
TBeck QUOTE (William @ Apr 1 2006, 04:48 AM)If the ... Apr 1 2006, 04:42
kwanbis QUOTE (William @ Apr 1 2006, 02:48 AM)In my o... Apr 1 2006, 14:56
Enig123 TBeck,
Sounds interesting. I'm really happy t... Apr 1 2006, 04:06
TBeck QUOTE (Enig123 @ Apr 1 2006, 05:06 AM)TBeck,
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MusicLover QUOTE (TBeck @ Mar 31 2006, 06:04 PM)Hi,
(so... Apr 1 2006, 10:38
TBeck QUOTE (MusicLover @ Apr 1 2006, 11:38 AM)Hey,... Apr 1 2006, 16:35
pest I've worked on something similiar the last yea... Apr 1 2006, 16:42
Skymmer QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 1 2006, 05:04 AM)I would l... Apr 1 2006, 13:11
TBeck QUOTE (Skymmer @ Apr 1 2006, 02:11 PM)QUOTE (... Apr 1 2006, 16:37
Triza Nobody needs another one that is only 1-2% better.... Apr 1 2006, 18:21
rutra80 An encoder with compression ratio as high as Monke... Apr 1 2006, 18:26
Duble0Syx QUOTE (rutra80 @ Apr 1 2006, 09:26 AM)An enco... Apr 1 2006, 18:53
xmixahlx you really don't need an official release righ... Apr 1 2006, 20:22
boombaard QUOTE IMHO Monkey's Audio is a poor codec simp... Apr 1 2006, 21:26
Skymmer QUOTE (rutra80 @ Apr 1 2006, 08:26 PM)An enco... Apr 1 2006, 21:31
TBeck QUOTE (Skymmer @ Apr 1 2006, 10:31 PM)Agree h... Apr 1 2006, 23:55
TBeck The Table in the previous post contains results fr... Apr 1 2006, 23:57
rjamorim QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 1 2006, 07:55 PM)CODE-----... Apr 2 2006, 01:22
TBeck QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 2 2006, 02:22 AM)QUOTE ... Apr 2 2006, 01:45
rjamorim QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 1 2006, 09:45 PM)But it... Apr 2 2006, 01:57
TBeck QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 2 2006, 02:57 AM)QUOTE ... Apr 2 2006, 02:13
William QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 2 2006, 01:13 AM)Yes. And ... Apr 2 2006, 06:42
Skymmer Truly speaking I'm little bit impressed. The r... Apr 2 2006, 00:56
TBeck QUOTE (Skymmer @ Apr 2 2006, 01:56 AM)Truly s... Apr 2 2006, 01:23
pest QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 1 2006, 04:23 PM)Furthermo... Apr 2 2006, 13:52
Cartman_Sr This discussion reminds me of that episode of the ... Apr 2 2006, 07:15
Eric IHMO, if you could transform your ideas into some ... Apr 2 2006, 15:20
Mo0zOoH Hey, that's really something special! I do... Apr 2 2006, 15:30
Liisachan QUOTE (Skymmer @ Apr 2 2006, 05:04 PM)For TBe... Apr 2 2006, 18:33
bryant If I understand your table correctly, you are sayi... Apr 2 2006, 20:40
TBeck QUOTE (bryant @ Apr 2 2006, 09:40 PM)If I und... Apr 2 2006, 21:07

bryant QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 2 2006, 12:07 PM)So i woul... Apr 2 2006, 22:02
TBeck QUOTE (bryant @ Apr 2 2006, 09:40 PM)If I und... Apr 2 2006, 21:22
Shade[ST] I'm sure many people will wish to donate for u... Apr 2 2006, 21:39
pepoluan Well, I am currently performing a Lossless Compres... Apr 2 2006, 20:59
TBeck Possibly time for some summary. Especially because... Apr 2 2006, 22:04
TBeck If nothing unexpected happens, i will release an e... Apr 3 2006, 09:34
Garf QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 3 2006, 10:34 AM) Woul... Apr 12 2006, 13:17
Emanuel If none of the moderators object, you can use the ... Apr 3 2006, 10:17
Squeller TBeck, could you describe your basic algorithm ide... Apr 3 2006, 10:25
TBeck QUOTE (Squeller @ Apr 3 2006, 11:25 AM)TBeck,... Apr 3 2006, 11:24
Skymmer QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 3 2006, 11:34 AM)Would it ... Apr 3 2006, 11:39
john33 QUOTE (Skymmer @ Apr 3 2006, 10:39 AM) QU... Apr 12 2006, 13:24
towolf QUOTE (jcoalson @ Apr 3 2006, 02:33 AM)if you... Apr 4 2006, 10:28
TBeck QUOTE (towolf @ Apr 4 2006, 11:28 AM)QUOTE (j... Apr 4 2006, 10:36
towolf QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 4 2006, 11:36 AM)QUOTE (to... Apr 4 2006, 10:46
TBeck QUOTE (towolf @ Apr 4 2006, 11:46 AM)QUOTE (T... Apr 4 2006, 10:50
TBeck Links to 24 bit files i have used
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