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Artemis3 View Member Profile	Nov 9 2002, 20:24 Post #1
Group: Members Posts: 514 Joined: 29-September 01 Member No.: 68	According to mppenc 1.14 output: (playing with --verbose ) --quality 11 calls MACDll.dll (why not flac?) --quality 10 SV 7.0 + XLevel coding, Profile 'above BrainDead' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 24.0 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/oo dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 599: min(Klemm,Busch), Max ATH: 46 dB, Offset: -30 dB, +Offset@20 kHz:-29 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 14.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 33.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 6.0 dB --quality 9 SV 7.0 + XLevel coding, Profile 'above BrainDead' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 24.0 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/12 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 590: min(Klemm,Busch), Max ATH: 52 dB, Offset: -24 dB, +Offset@20 kHz:-24 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 12.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 30.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 5.0 dB --quality 8 SV 7.0 + XLevel coding, Profile 'BrainDead' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 24.0 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/12 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 580: min(Klemm,Busch), Max ATH: 58 dB, Offset: -18 dB, +Offset@20 kHz:-18 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 11.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 27.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 4.0 dB --quality 7 SV 7.0 + XLevel coding, Profile 'Insane' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 24.0 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/12 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 570: min(Klemm,Busch), Max ATH: 64 dB, Offset: -12 dB, +Offset@20 kHz:-12 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 9.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 24.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 3.0 dB --quality 6 SV 7.0 + XLevel coding, Profile 'Xtreme' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 22.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (2.5/9 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 560: min(Klemm,Busch), Max ATH: 70 dB, Offset: -6 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: -6 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 8.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 21.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 2.0 dB --quality 5 SV 7.0 + XLevel coding, Profile 'Standard' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 20.3 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (2/6 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 550: min(Klemm,Busch), Max ATH: 76 dB, Offset: +0 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: 0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 1.0 dB --quality 4 SV 7.1 + XLevel coding, Profile 'Radio' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 16.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior Threshold of Hearing : Model 440: Klemm/Busch mix, Max ATH: 82 dB, Offset: +6 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: 6 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 5.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 15.0 dB PNS Threshold : 0.27 --quality 3 SV 7.1 + XLevel coding, Profile 'Thumb' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 13.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, reduced imaging (-3 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model 430: Klemm/Busch mix, Max ATH: 88 dB, Offset: +12 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: 12 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 3.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 12.0 dB PNS Threshold : 0.39 --quality 2 SV 7.1 + XLevel coding, Profile 'Telephone' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 10.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, much reduced imaging Threshold of Hearing : Model 400: Klemm/Busch mix, Max ATH: 94 dB, Offset: +18 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: 30 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 2.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 9.0 dB PNS Threshold : 0.55 --quality 1 SV 7.1 + XLevel coding, Profile 'below Telephone' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 8.3 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, destroyed imaging (unusable) Threshold of Hearing : Model 300: Klemm, Max ATH: 100 dB, Offset: +24 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: 30 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 0.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 6.0 dB PNS Threshold : 0.77 --quality 0 SV 7.1 + XLevel coding, Profile 'below Telephone' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 5.3 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, destroyed imaging (unusable) Threshold of Hearing : Model 300: Klemm, Max ATH: 106 dB, Offset: +30 dB, +Offset@20 kHz: 30 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : -1.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 3.0 dB PNS Threshold : 1.09 I used a 48Khz sample A little history MPC Encoder 1.1 Release © 1999-2002 Buschmann/Klemm/Piecha --quality 11 mppenc: Can't open MACDll.dll, quality set to 10.0 --quality 10 SV 7.0, Profile 'above BrainDead' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 22.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/oo dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: -30 dB @20 kHz(40), Max ATH: 46 dB, Offset: -30 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 14.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 33.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 6.0 dB --quality 9 SV 7.0, Profile 'above BrainDead' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 22.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/12 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: -24 dB @20 kHz(39), Max ATH: 52 dB, Offset: -24 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 12.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 30.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 5.0 dB --quality 8 SV 7.0, Profile 'BrainDead' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 22.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/12 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: -18 dB @20 kHz(38), Max ATH: 58 dB, Offset: -18 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 11.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 27.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 4.0 dB --quality 7 SV 7.0, Profile 'Insane' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 22.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (3/12 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: -12 dB @20 kHz(37), Max ATH: 64 dB, Offset: -12 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 9.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 24.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 3.0 dB --quality 6 SV 7.0, Profile 'Xtreme' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 22.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (2.5/9 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: +6 dB @20 kHz(36), Max ATH: 70 dB, Offset: -6 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 8.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 21.0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 2.0 dB --quality 5 SV 7.0, Profile 'Standard' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 20.3 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Dual Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior + enhanced (2/6 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: Klemm/Busch 2(35), Max ATH: 76 dB, Offset: +0 dB Minimum Signal-to-Mask : 1.0 dB --quality 4 SV 7.1, Profile 'Radio' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 16.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo when superior Threshold of Hearing : Model: +6 dB @20 kHz(14), Max ATH: 82 dB, Offset: +6 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 5.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 15.0 dB PNS Threshold : 0.25 --quality 3 SV 7.1, Profile 'Thumb' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 13.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, reduced imaging (-3 dB) Threshold of Hearing : Model: +12 dB @20 kHz(13), Max ATH: 88 dB, Offset: +12 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 3.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 12.0 dB PNS Threshold : 1.00 --quality 2 SV 7.1, Profile 'Telephone' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 10.5 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, much reduced imaging Threshold of Hearing : Model: +30 dB @20 kHz(10), Max ATH: 94 dB, Offset: +18 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 2.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 9.0 dB PNS Threshold : 3.00 --quality 1 SV 7.1, Profile 'below Telephone' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 8.3 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, destroyed imaging (unusable) Threshold of Hearing : Model: +30 dB @20 kHz(10), Max ATH: 100 dB, Offset: +24 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : 0.5 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 6.0 dB PNS Threshold : 8.00 --quality 0 SV 7.1, Profile 'below Telephone' Maximum encoded bandwidth: 5.3 kHz Adaptive Noise Shaping : max. 6th order Clear Voice Detection : Enabled Mid/Side Stereo : Mid/Side Stereo, destroyed imaging (unusable) Threshold of Hearing : Model: +30 dB @20 kHz(10), Max ATH: 106 dB, Offset: +30 dB Noise masks Tone Ratio : -1.0 dB Tone masks Noise Ratio : 3.0 dB PNS Threshold : 9.99 MPC Encoder 1.02 --Beta-- © 1999-2002 Buschmann/Klemm/Piecha ERROR: Sampling frequency of 48 kHz is not supported! --braindead SV 7, Profile 'BrainDead' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: -12.0 dB, max: 65.0 dB) NMT: 12.00 dB TMN: 28.00 dB --insane SV 7, Profile 'Insane' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: -6.0 dB, max: 77.0 dB) NMT: 10.00 dB TMN: 24.00 dB minimum SMR of 3.0 dB --xtreme SV 7, Profile 'Xtreme' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: +0.0 dB, max: 83.0 dB) NMT: 8.00 dB TMN: 20.00 dB --standard SV 7, Profile 'Standard' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: ank (offset: +0.0 dB, max: 83.0 dB) TMN: 17.00 dB --radio SV 7, Profile 'Radio' maximum bandwidth: 15848 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enabled Ltq: ank (offset: +6.0 dB, max: 89.0 dB) NMT: 5.00 dB TMN: 14.00 dB --thumb SV 7, Profile 'Thumb' maximum bandwidth: 13092 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enabled Ltq: ank (offset: +24.0 dB, max: 93.0 dB) NMT: 3.00 dB TMN: 10.00 dB PNS possible at 1.4 kHz MPC Encoder 1.01j --Alpha-- © 1999-2002 Buschmann/Klemm/Piecha ERROR: Sampling frequency of 48 kHz is not supported! --braindead SV 7, Profile 'BrainDead' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: -12.0 dB, max: 65.0 dB) NMT: 11.00 dB TMN: 28.00 dB --insane SV 7, Profile 'Insane' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 2nd order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: -6.0 dB, max: 77.0 dB) NMT: 9.00 dB TMN: 24.00 dB minimum SMR of 3.0 dB --xtreme SV 7, Profile 'Xtreme' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: +0.0 dB, max: 83.0 dB) NMT: 8.00 dB TMN: 20.00 dB --standard SV 7, Profile 'Standard' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: ank (offset: +0.0 dB, max: 83.0 dB) --radio SV 7, Profile 'Radio' maximum bandwidth: 15848 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enabled Ltq: ank (offset: +5.0 dB, max: 89.0 dB) NMT: 5.00 dB TMN: 14.00 dB --thumb SV 7, Profile 'Thumb' maximum bandwidth: 10336 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: disabled MS : enabled Ltq: ank (offset: +24.0 dB, max: 93.0 dB) NMT: 3.00 dB TMN: 4.00 dB MP+/MPC Encoder 0.90s --ALPHA VERSION-- © 1999-2001 Buschmann/Klemm/Piecha ERROR: Sampling frequency of 48 kHz is not supported! --insane SV 7, Profile 'Insane' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 2nd order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: -6.0 dB, max: 77.0 dB) NMT: 9.00 dB TMN: 24.00 dB minimum SMR of 3.0 dB --xtreme SV 7, Profile 'Xtreme' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: +0.0 dB, max: 83.0 dB) NMT: 8.00 dB TMN: 20.00 dB --standard SV 7, Profile 'Standard' maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enhanced Ltq: ank (offset: +0.0 dB, max: 83.0 dB) --radio SV 7, Profile 'Radio' maximum bandwidth: 15848 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: enabled MS : enabled Ltq: ank (offset: +5.0 dB, max: 89.0 dB) NMT: 5.00 dB TMN: 14.00 dB --thumb SV 7, Profile 'Thumb' maximum bandwidth: 10336 Hz ANS: max. 5th order CVD: disabled MS : enabled Ltq: ank (offset: +25.0 dB, max: 93.0 dB) NMT: 3.00 dB TMN: 4.00 dB MP+ v1.7.9c © 1999-2001 Andree Buschmann ERROR: Sampling frequency of 48000 kHz is not supported! -insane StreamVersion 7, Profile: "insane" maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz MS: enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: 0.0 dB) TMN set to 24.00 dB NMT set to 9.00 dB minimum SMR of 3.0 dB -xtreme StreamVersion 7, Profile: "xtreme" maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz MS: enhanced Ltq: fil (offset: 0.0 dB) TMN set to 20.00 dB NMT set to 8.00 dB -standard StreamVersion 7, Profile: "standard" maximum bandwidth: 22050 Hz MS: enhanced Ltq: ank (offset: 0.0 dB) -radio maximum bandwidth: 16537 Hz MS: enabled Ltq: ank (offset: 5.0 dB) TMN set to 14.00 dB NMT set to 5.00 dB -thumb maximum bandwidth: 10335 Hz MS: enabled Ltq: ank (offset: 25.0 dB) TMN set to 4.00 dB NMT set to 3.00 dB This post has been edited by Artemis3: Feb 24 2003, 21:37 -------------------- She is waiting in the air

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CiTay View Member Profile	Nov 12 2002, 23:53 Post #2
Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 2372 Joined: 22-September 01 Member No.: 3	QUOTE (JohnV @ Nov 12 2002 - 11:34 PM) Imo what should be done instead of blocking information because of the fear of newbie missuse, is to educate people with few sentences like "these values are likely to be changed in the next versions" and "mpc presets are already highly tweaked" etc... I think that the educational value of the table is not very high. Of course, it's valuable information for some, but it will soon become worthless, without maintenance. QUOTE Another choice is to make newbie restricted areas, which means that newbies can't even read certain forums. Hmm, how should this be practicable... isn't it also a step in the wrong direction? I mean, we want to provide information to everyone, not exclude certain people.

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Artemis3 --verbose output of all --quality settings Nov 9 2002, 20:24

westgroveg So are you saying all quality levels (besides 11) ... Nov 11 2002, 06:38

CiTay QUOTE (westgroveg @ Nov 11 2002 - 06:38 AM)So... Nov 11 2002, 15:12

Artemis3 Oops, yes i used --xlevel, simply ignore the ... Nov 12 2002, 07:15

JohnV QUOTE (Artemis3 @ Nov 12 2002 - 08:15 AM)What... Nov 12 2002, 07:50

CiTay QUOTE (JohnV @ Nov 12 2002 - 07:50 AM)You sho... Nov 12 2002, 15:32

guruboolez And don't forget that Frank Klemm can in the n... Nov 12 2002, 15:50

user guruboolez: "And don't forget that Frank ... Nov 12 2002, 16:19

Madrigal QUOTE (user @ Nov 12 2002 - 10:19 AM)gurubool... Nov 12 2002, 19:23

ErikS QUOTE (Artemis3 @ Nov 9 2002 - 08:24 PM)--qua... Nov 12 2002, 19:36

JohnV QUOTE (CiTay @ Nov 12 2002 - 04:32 PM)QUOTE (... Nov 12 2002, 23:34

CiTay QUOTE (JohnV @ Nov 12 2002 - 11:34 PM)Imo wha... Nov 12 2002, 23:53

user of course, newbie restricted area, hiding informat... Nov 13 2002, 00:07

JohnV QUOTE (CiTay @ Nov 13 2002 - 12:53 AM)I think... Nov 13 2002, 00:28

CiTay Thread split (was originally in "List of reco... Nov 13 2002, 00:40

JohnV QUOTE (CiTay @ Nov 13 2002 - 01:40 AM)Thread ... Nov 13 2002, 00:52

damage07 I am a newbie to MPC (this time last week I was st... Nov 13 2002, 03:39

floyd I found the table interesting. I don't see an... Nov 13 2002, 07:28

ak QUOTE (ErikS @ Nov 12 2002 - 08:36 PM)I thoug... Nov 13 2002, 13:56

Artemis3 QUOTE (CiTay @ Nov 12 2002 - 07:40 PM)Thread ... Feb 24 2003, 01:54

user results sorted by past versions are very fine. pe... Feb 24 2003, 08:47

mp3chan What about quality 5.xx or 6.xx? Feb 24 2003, 20:53

atici --quality 7 --xlevel --verbose yields 22000 Hz a... May 5 2003, 18:31

mithrandir QUOTE (atici @ May 5 2003 - 12:31 PM)--qualit... May 6 2003, 05:02

atici QUOTE (mithrandir @ May 5 2003 - 11:02 PM)Not... May 6 2003, 05:10

Pio2001 My 48 kHz files are recording from vinyls or tapes... May 6 2003, 14:37

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