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Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti

Kurt S View Member Profile	Apr 7 2006, 23:58 Post #1
Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 8-December 04 Member No.: 18568	So back in the late 80's I bought Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti CD and boy was I ever dissapointed. The fidelity was horrible. It sounded like someone ran it through an EQ and made the sliders look like a bell curve. No low end to speak of and the highs weren't any better. I A/B'ed it against the LP I had and the difference was night and day. The LP was crisp and clear with good bass. Well I've gotten back into this album but even after running it through some EQ I'm still not happy with the results. My question is, has anyone purchased this album recently and if so, what is your opinion of the quality. PS. I know the first thing I'm going to hear is if I have A/B'ed it recently. I have not. I don't have a turntable anymore but if anyone questions what I'm hearing, I would be glad to post a small sample for you to listen to.

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greynol View Member Profile	Nov 21 2006, 01:56 Post #2
Group: Super Moderator Posts: 9366 Joined: 1-April 04 Member No.: 13167	Here are some numbers for you. Sorry that I don't have Box Set #2. CODE 1990 1993 Box CSR Track Diff. -4.12 -7.31 Custard Pie 3.19 -4.62 -7.14 Houses of the Holy 2.52 -4.88 -6.37 In My Time of Dying 1.49 -4.40 -4.93 In the Light 0.53 -5.35 -5.86 Kashmir 0.51 -4.07 -4.68 Ten Years Gone 0.61 -4.29 -6.07 The Wanton Song 1.78 -5.78 -7.33 Trampled Under Foot 1.55 This post has been edited by greynol: Nov 21 2006, 01:58 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.

krabapple View Member Profile	Nov 21 2006, 04:46 Post #3
Group: Members Posts: 2089 Joined: 18-December 03 Member No.: 10538	Not sure the guy on SH.tv is talking about replaygain value differences, though I'm grateful to have that data. Can you post RMS avg and peak values for the crop circle tracks? I can generate them for the 10-CDbox versions. This post has been edited by krabapple: Nov 21 2006, 04:48

cliveb View Member Profile	Nov 21 2006, 10:32 Post #4
WaveRepair developer Group: Developer Posts: 774 Joined: 28-July 04 Member No.: 15845	QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 21 2006, 03:46) Not sure the guy on SH.tv is talking about replaygain value differences, though I'm grateful to have that data. Can you post RMS avg and peak values for the crop circle tracks? I can generate them for the 10-CDbox versions. Sorry, only just seen this resurrected thread. Greynol's figures seem to show that there are much bigger differences on some tracks than I had measured for "Good Times Bad Times". I don't remember why I chose that particular track - it was probably just convenient. When I get home tonight I'll measure some peak and RMS levels for a variety of Crop Cricle and 10CD box tracks (unless someone else posts the data before then).

greynol View Member Profile	Nov 21 2006, 10:54 Post #5
Group: Super Moderator Posts: 9366 Joined: 1-April 04 Member No.: 13167	QUOTE (cliveb @ Nov 21 2006, 01:32) When I get home tonight I'll measure some peak and RMS levels for a variety of Crop Cricle and 10CD box tracks (unless someone else posts the data before then). I generated data for Discs 1 and 2 of the Crop Circle Box using Audition already. CODE Babe I'm Gonna Leave You Peak Amplitude: -1.22 dB -.7 dB Average RMS Power: -19.02 dB -18.3 dB Celebration Day Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -16.3 dB -16.65 dB Communication Breakdown Peak Amplitude: -.45 dB -.74 dB Average RMS Power: -15.72 dB -15.14 dB Dazed And Confused Peak Amplitude: -.03 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -16.38 dB -16.71 dB Friends Peak Amplitude: -.77 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -19.16 dB -19.02 dB Heartbreaker Peak Amplitude: -.01 dB -.51 dB Average RMS Power: -16.96 dB -16.74 dB Hey Hey What Can I Do Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -18.82 dB -18.67 dB I Can't Quit You Baby Peak Amplitude: 0 dB -.01 dB Average RMS Power: -18.6 dB -19.5 dB Ramble On Peak Amplitude: -.05 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -20.31 dB -19.35 dB Thank You Peak Amplitude: -.91 dB -1.46 dB Average RMS Power: -24.27 dB -23.23 dB Travelling Riverside Blues Peak Amplitude: -.89 dB -.89 dB Average RMS Power: -16.96 dB -16.96 dB What Is And What Should Never Be Peak Amplitude: -1.2 dB -.55 dB Average RMS Power: -21.36 dB -21 dB White Summer , Black Mountain Side Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -23.8 dB -23.8 dB Whole Lotta Love Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -19.33 dB -19.29 dB Your Time Is Gonna Come Peak Amplitude: -1.23 dB -1.11 dB Average RMS Power: -18.57 dB -18.31 dB CODE Black Dog Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -17.4 dB -18.15 dB Bron-Y-Aur Stomp Peak Amplitude: -.5 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -20.22 dB -20.08 dB Custard Pie Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -20.06 dB -19.66 dB D'yer Mak'er Peak Amplitude: -.04 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -20.22 dB -19.42 dB Gallows Pole Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -20.11 dB -20.81 dB Going To California Peak Amplitude: -4.9 dB -3.14 dB Average RMS Power: -21.22 dB -21.36 dB Immigrant Song Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -16.34 dB -16.76 dB Misty Mountain Hop Peak Amplitude: -.92 dB -1.5 dB Average RMS Power: -16.3 dB -16.5 dB Over The Hills And Far Away Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -21.65 dB -21.02 dB Rock And Roll Peak Amplitude: -.78 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -16.28 dB -16.55 dB Since I've Been Loving You Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -18.82 dB -19.19 dB Stairway To Heaven Peak Amplitude: -1.11 dB -.14 dB Average RMS Power: -21.45 dB -21.07 dB Tangerine Peak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dB Average RMS Power: -20.45 dB -20.47 dB The Battle Of Evermore Peak Amplitude: -4.12 dB -2.4 dB Average RMS Power: -21.1 dB -19.66 dB The Rain Song Peak Amplitude: 0 dB -.15 dB Average RMS Power: -19.72 dB -19.22 dB This post has been edited by greynol: Nov 21 2006, 20:00 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.

digital View Member Profile	Nov 21 2006, 11:18 Post #6
Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 29-July 06 Member No.: 33427	Whew! I don't know if we should even be arguing this one boyz'. I mean, this album, as with many others of the day for Zep', are so chalk full of rock / soul / feeling / energy, that I don't think that they were put down to be any kind of audiophile oracle... We're talking here about my favorite Zeppelin LP. I've owned the damned thing in cassette, LP and CD - hell, perhaps even 8-track, (don't recall). It’s a [lot] grungy, a [bit] raw, dirty - but its such a classic slab of rock and roll - Damn, now I have to go play it... There, The Rover is screaming in the background… refocus man… My current remastered double Album (CD) has great bass, though I cannot compare it to the LP version as I don't currently have it - got out of vinyl years ago, sold everything - only to get back into it two years ago... 1) Leave your keyboard now 2) Place said masterpiece in the TT or in the CD 3) Crank shitless... …ah, now, isn’t that much better…? Andrew D. cdnav.com

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Kurt S Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti Apr 7 2006, 23:58

kennedyb4 QUOTE (Kurt S @ Apr 7 2006, 05:58 PM) So ... Apr 8 2006, 00:23

audioflex i have this CD....sounds just fine. Apr 8 2006, 07:30

randal1013 QUOTE (audioflex @ Apr 8 2006, 02:30 AM) ... Apr 13 2006, 16:51

aLii I have the remastered CD - dunno when exactly it w... Apr 8 2006, 18:07

Axon I have the box set and the original pressing vinyl... Apr 8 2006, 18:21

Kurt S Ok, it looks like the newer versons are mastered b... Apr 9 2006, 21:38

krabapple This was never anything near an 'audiophile qu... Apr 10 2006, 05:50

chelrob The album was remastered again 1994, it sounds eve... Apr 10 2006, 07:43

Triza QUOTE (chelrob @ Apr 9 2006, 10:43 PM) Th... Apr 10 2006, 15:33

cliveb QUOTE (Triza @ Apr 10 2006, 03:33 PM) QUO... Apr 11 2006, 11:32

chelrob . Never mind Nov 21 2006, 05:39

krabapple QUOTE (chelrob @ Apr 10 2006, 02:43 AM) T... Apr 13 2006, 06:20

TomGroove just listening again to my 10 Box set, don't t... Apr 15 2006, 11:12

My name is Mud I've got the same version as krabapple, and it... Apr 10 2006, 20:18

Triza cliveb, this is very informative post. Thank you. ... Apr 11 2006, 15:31

cliveb QUOTE (Triza @ Apr 11 2006, 03:31 PM) You... Apr 11 2006, 16:33

krabapple QUOTE (cliveb @ Apr 11 2006, 10:33) QUOTE... Nov 20 2006, 20:36

UObean Personally I like the older non-remastered version... Apr 11 2006, 15:55

greynol Here are some numbers for you. Sorry that I don... Nov 21 2006, 01:56

krabapple Not sure the guy on SH.tv is talking about replayg... Nov 21 2006, 04:46

cliveb QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 21 2006, 03:46) No... Nov 21 2006, 10:32

greynol QUOTE (cliveb @ Nov 21 2006, 01:32) When ... Nov 21 2006, 10:54

digital Whew! I don't know if we should even be a... Nov 21 2006, 11:18

paulmarkj We talked about this album last week (along woth m... Nov 30 2006, 22:47

aLii QUOTE (paulmarkj @ Nov 30 2006, 22:47) ... Dec 14 2006, 13:26

krabapple QUOTE (paulmarkj @ Nov 30 2006, 16:47) Ph... Dec 18 2006, 17:29

cliveb QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 21 2006, 09:54) QUOT... Nov 21 2006, 20:33

krabapple Since more people tend to report Avg than Total RM... Nov 21 2006, 21:18

cliveb QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 21 2006, 20:18) Cl... Nov 21 2006, 23:28

krabapple QUOTE (cliveb @ Nov 21 2006, 17:28) QUOTE... Nov 21 2006, 23:54

Lysander How about the best of discs? What was done to them... Nov 21 2006, 08:32

xmixahlx the fact (yes, fact) that zeppelin rocks your worl... Nov 21 2006, 19:02

greynol I still have all the data generated by Audition, s... Nov 21 2006, 20:41

krabapple Btw, when I tote up all the differences so far bet... Nov 21 2006, 22:22

greynol QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 21 2006, 13:22) I ... Nov 21 2006, 22:34

krabapple Yes, that is the other dimension -- many time-prox... Nov 21 2006, 22:44

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