Yalac - Comparisons, How the evaluation release compares to other compressors |
Yalac - Comparisons, How the evaluation release compares to other compressors |
Apr 10 2006, 07:30
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In this thread the testers should post comparisons of the preset modes of Yalac (Working name for "Yet another lossless audio compressor") with other lossless compressors. The results for specific variations of individual encoder options should go into the thread " Yalac – Evaluation and optimization". Guidelines Please post the exact version number of the compressors. Compression ratio should be specified in percent of the uncompressed file size. Speed figures should be specified as multiple of real time (duration of the test files). A specification of your test system, especially the CPU, would be helpful. Open end: Feel free to add more results later. What happened Bad timing of my introduction (April 1.) forced an early publication of an evaluation release of Yalac, to prove, that it really works. This are results of 8 forum members, who where so kind to test the experimental release for me. Many thanks! Goals Yalac should finally achieve compression ratios on par with Monkey's Audio High. Decoding speed should be at least two times higher than Monkey and never be significantly lower than with FLAC (possibly Yalac will later be integrated into FLAC). My next steps The first results i have received from the testers show me some weaknesses of the encoder. That's a good thing, because that means, that there definitely is a chance to increase the compression efficiency! Same is true for the speed; especially the decoder is not fully optimized yet. But it will take some time, before i will come up with an optimized release. Links to 24 bit files i have used I think, they are hard to find. CODE 44 KHz, 24 bit mytek_8X96_24bit_web.wav Mytek-stereo96adc_evans.wav Mytek-stereo96adc_ravel.wav Source: http://www.mytekdigital.com/compare/comparison1.htm 48 KHz, 24 bit McDougalsMen24bit_48kHz.wav sister24bit_48kHz.wav Source: http://ff123.net/samples.html Or make a better Google search. foosion shows you how: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=381702 This post has been edited by TBeck: Apr 12 2006, 20:23 |
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Apr 13 2006, 21:54
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These are benchmarks with Yalac 0.03 with two albums (EAC CDImage file). The first album is rock recording that was remastered and represents modern, heavily compressed albums. The second is an un-remasted pop/rock album.
Notice that the behavior of each codec on different types albums affect both compression ratio and processing time: CODE Slayer - South of Heaven (remaster) 390,702,524 bytes duration 36:54 ======================================================================= name/params Ratio EncTime DecTime --------------------- ------ ------ ------ Yalac 0.03 fastest 74.20% 44.92x 66.64x Yalac 0.03 fast 73.61% 37.91x 66.06x MAC 4.01 beta2 -c1000 74.34% 63.26x 48.13x FLAC 1.1.2 --fast 79.47% 65.12x 67.09x WavPack 4.3 -f 76.73% 63.26x 60.81x OFR 4.520 --mode fast 73.60% 23.55x 35.14x --------------------- ------ ------ ------ Yalac 0.03 normal 73.33% 24.47x 66.90x MAC 4.01 beta2 -c2000 73.14% 48.13x 41.77x FLAC 1.1.2 (default) 75.70% 51.49x 65.12x WavPack 4.3 (default) 75.42% 58.26x 61.50x OFR 4.520 (default) 73.00% 16.65x 24.60x LA 0.4 normal 71.65% 5.93x 7.72x TTA 3.3 (default) 74.78% 55.68x 55.52x --------------------- ------ ------ ------ Yalac 0.03 high 73.14% 7.30x 67.62x MAC 4.01 beta2 -c3000 72.88% 41.93x 37.85x FLAC 1.1.2 --best 75.49% 11.78x 67.09x WavPack 4.3 -h 73.82% 44.61x 53.92x OFR 4.520 --mode high 72.77% 11.41x 16.65x LA 0.4 high 71.52% 4.44x 5.38x --------------------- ------ ------ ------ CODE The Police - Synchonicity (1983) 471,176,204 bytes duration 44:31 ===================================================================== name/params Ratio EncTime DecTime ------------------ ------ ------ ------ Yalac 0.03 fastest 51.44% 49.25x 76.49x Yalac 0.03 fast 50.73% 39.84x 82.54x MAC 4.01 beta2 -c1000 51.46% 66.94x 53.85x FLAC 1.1.2 --fast 58.43% 74.19x 78.56x WavPack 4.3 -f 53.29% 73.52x 76.86x OFR 4.520 --mode fast 50.76% 23.43x 35.61x --------------------- ------ ------ ------ Yalac 0.03 normal 50.34% 25.45x 71.72x MAC 4.01 beta2 -c2000 49.88% 50.01x 44.08x FLAC 1.1.2 (default) 52.92% 56.83x 78.56x WavPack 4.3 (default) 52.22% 67.95x 75.10x OFR 4.520 (default) 49.73% 17.12x 25.44x LA 0.4 (normal) 48.42% 6.04x 7.94x TTA 3.3 (default) 51.05% 65.77x 57.87x --------------------- ------ ------ ------ Yalac 0.03 high 50.12% 7.22x 79.10x MAC 4.01 beta2 -c3000 49.57% 42.80x 39.87x FLAC 1.1.2 --best 52.63% 12.20x 78.56x WavPack 4.3 -h 50.61% 48.44x 64.41x OFR 4.520 --mode high 49.38% 11.77x 16.59x LA 0.4 -high 48.23% 4.54x 5.48x --------------------- ------ ------ ------ Yalac already has great performance and ratio. It would be interesting to see if the encoding time can be further optimized edit: added LA scores, not interesting since it usually gets the best ratio, is extremely slow and it crashed edit2: added TTA scores This post has been edited by Destroid: Apr 24 2006, 17:52 -------------------- "Something bothering you, Mister Spock?"
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Apr 13 2006, 22:40
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TBeck Yalac - Comparisons Apr 10 2006, 07:30
Synthetic Soul My results can be found at the following address:
... Apr 11 2006, 18:05
onthejazz QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 11 2006, 12:0... Apr 12 2006, 04:52
Destroid I had issues with the inability for Yalac to accep... Apr 12 2006, 03:22
Synthetic Soul Comparison now includes Yalac Fastest.Summary of e... Apr 12 2006, 22:09
Destroid Test #3 - LP recorded to cassette, includes vinyl ... Apr 18 2006, 01:13
Shade[ST] Destroid's results prove that YALAC is the bes... Apr 18 2006, 01:21
Destroid QUOTE ' date='Apr 18 2006, 12:21 AM' p... Apr 18 2006, 02:56
Synthetic Soul Garf posted some suggestions for "presets... Apr 18 2006, 09:47
Destroid QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 18 2006, 08:4... Apr 18 2006, 11:09
TBeck QUOTE (Destroid @ Apr 18 2006, 12:09 PM) ... Apr 18 2006, 11:23
Destroid QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 18 2006, 10:23 AM) I a... Apr 18 2006, 11:49
pest QUOTE My channel decorrelation obviously needs som... Apr 18 2006, 12:23
vinnie97 I'm still waiting for something to beat LA... Apr 18 2006, 10:13
Firon I'm really impressed, the fast compression rat... Apr 18 2006, 11:40
TBeck QUOTE (Firon @ Apr 18 2006, 12:40 PM) I... Apr 18 2006, 11:47
JB_ Hello, its my 1st post here.
Have you guys know th... Apr 18 2006, 12:01
[proxima] QUOTE (JB_ @ Apr 18 2006, 01:01 PM) Have ... Apr 18 2006, 12:18
JB_ QUOTE TTA was considered in previous tests by guru... Apr 18 2006, 16:31
Synthetic Soul Following my comparison using 16bit 44.1KHz stereo... Apr 18 2006, 12:11
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 18 2006, 01:1... Apr 18 2006, 14:20
Synthetic Soul Not especially. Is there a compelling reason to i... Apr 18 2006, 16:42
Mo0zOoH TBeck,
Your compressor is actually a BOMB. Right ... Apr 18 2006, 18:20
Synthetic Soul Out of interest on my part TTA is now included whe... Apr 18 2006, 18:49
Shade[ST] QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 18 2006, 01:4... Apr 18 2006, 19:13
Synthetic Soul Yes, that would be possible.
Another member previ... Apr 18 2006, 22:06
Shade[ST] That second method is evaluating the compresser... Apr 18 2006, 22:30
audiofreak QUOTE ' date='Apr 18 2006, 02:13 PM' p... Apr 19 2006, 00:43
Shade[ST] Good idea. Now make it Apr 19 2006, 01:19
audiofreak QUOTE ' date='Apr 18 2006, 08:19 PM' p... Apr 19 2006, 01:42
Synthetic Soul Well, OK, if anyone can suggest an algorithm that ... Apr 19 2006, 07:44
TBeck Current Progress
you may call it Tom's diary.... Apr 23 2006, 10:50
audiofreak Moderation: Removed unnecessary quote
This may so... Apr 23 2006, 15:19
TBeck QUOTE (audiofreak @ Apr 23 2006, 04:19 PM... Apr 24 2006, 02:43
Destroid At last, the first set of monural instrument track... Apr 24 2006, 18:11
TBeck Current Progress (V0.05)
In my last post i asked ... Apr 26 2006, 04:31
Synthetic Soul Cool, thanks for the update Thomas.
I thought I s... Apr 26 2006, 10:01
TBeck V0.05 is done
Changes:
- Preset FASTEST is gone.... Apr 29 2006, 11:18
boombaard QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 29 2006, 12:18 PM) V0.... Apr 29 2006, 22:58
guruboolez I have a question, related to the fact that I have... Apr 29 2006, 11:39
Destroid QUOTE (guruboolez @ Apr 29 2006, 10:39 AM... Apr 29 2006, 22:29
Supacon It's good to see that you're progressing r... Apr 29 2006, 18:41
TBeck QUOTE (Supacon @ Apr 29 2006, 07:41 PM) B... May 2 2006, 13:31
Shade[ST] Hello Thomas,
Do you think you could slightly int... May 2 2006, 15:07
TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 2 2006, 04:07 PM' po... May 2 2006, 15:38
Shade[ST] That should be fine.. if no filename is listed, ma... May 2 2006, 16:40
TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 2 2006, 05:40 PM' po... May 2 2006, 16:58
Shade[ST] Maybe add a target directory option, so that the d... May 2 2006, 18:23
Destroid The speed up in high mode is there.
CODE
Occult - ... Apr 30 2006, 03:07
TBeck QUOTE (Destroid @ Apr 30 2006, 04:07 AM) ... May 2 2006, 13:07
Destroid My $0.02 USD, I would like to avoid the wildc... May 2 2006, 22:28
Shade[ST] In that case, (infile | --all) (compression option... May 2 2006, 22:54
TBeck QUOTE (Destroid @ May 2 2006, 11:28 PM) M... May 2 2006, 22:55
Destroid QUOTE Would it be ok for now, if the file extensio... May 2 2006, 23:57

Synthetic Soul QUOTE (Destroid @ May 2 2006, 10:57 PM) T... May 3 2006, 09:55
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (TBeck @ May 2 2006, 09:55 PM) Quic... May 3 2006, 09:44
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 3 2006, 10:44... May 3 2006, 14:25
TBeck Current Progress (V0.06)
Sorry if i should talk t... May 5 2006, 12:28
Shade[ST] Take your time if you should wish to, but I don... May 5 2006, 13:22
TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 5 2006, 02:22 PM' po... May 5 2006, 13:56
Synthetic Soul I'm not sure what the priority is for testing ... May 5 2006, 21:10
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 5 2006, 10:10... May 5 2006, 22:18
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (TBeck @ May 5 2006, 10:18 PM) Henc... May 6 2006, 10:08

Shade[ST] @Synthetic soul : If you make your batch files ava... May 6 2006, 16:37
TBeck QUOTE (TBeck @ May 5 2006, 23:18) Most wo... May 10 2006, 13:21
TBeck V0.06 is done
Changes:
Compression efficiency an... May 12 2006, 15:37
Shade[ST] My exams are now done, I'd be glad to test the... May 12 2006, 16:31
Shade[ST] On SSE optimization :
CODE=== New test ===========... May 13 2006, 00:49
TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 13 2006, 01:49' post... May 13 2006, 01:33
Shade[ST] It seems my disk caching is quite unstable, then. ... May 13 2006, 01:48
TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 13 2006, 02:48' post... May 13 2006, 01:54
Shade[ST] These results are actually quite surprising, as th... May 13 2006, 02:06
TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 13 2006, 03:06' post... May 13 2006, 02:29
Shade[ST] Do the rounding errors mean that the encoding may ... May 13 2006, 02:38

TBeck QUOTE ' date='May 13 2006, 03:38' post... May 13 2006, 02:46
Hyp-X QUOTE (TBeck @ May 13 2006, 02:29) I am q... May 15 2006, 16:21
TBeck QUOTE (Hyp-X @ May 15 2006, 17:21) F... May 15 2006, 16:33
Destroid A quick comparison between the last two versions u... May 13 2006, 02:51
TBeck QUOTE (Destroid @ May 13 2006, 03:51) A q... May 13 2006, 03:03
Destroid Oops, keep forgetting the sustem specs. I fixed th... May 13 2006, 03:25
TBeck QUOTE (Destroid @ May 13 2006, 04:25) Oop... May 13 2006, 03:33
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (TBeck @ May 13 2006, 01:33) BTW: A... May 13 2006, 08:03
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 13 2006, 09:0... May 13 2006, 12:52
Synthetic Soul I hacked the original comparison table to include ... May 15 2006, 11:09
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 15 2006, 12:0... May 15 2006, 12:52
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 15 2006, 12:0... May 15 2006, 13:41
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (TBeck @ May 15 2006, 13:41) Would ... May 15 2006, 15:26
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 15 2006, 16:2... May 15 2006, 15:57
Synthetic Soul Yes, Fast is truely impressive. In the encoder se... May 15 2006, 16:09
TBeck QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 15 2006, 17:0... May 15 2006, 16:17
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ May 15 2006, 16:0... May 15 2006, 18:35
Firon Fast mode is quite impressive in ratio and speed, ... May 15 2006, 18:53
TBeck QUOTE (Firon @ May 15 2006, 19:53) Fast m... May 15 2006, 19:45
Synthetic Soul I have just checked the MD5 hash of all decoded fi... May 15 2006, 22:20
audiofreak QUOTE (TBeck @ May 15 2006, 14:45) QUOTE ... May 16 2006, 03:14
TBeck QUOTE (audiofreak @ May 16 2006, 04:14) P... May 17 2006, 02:57
Shade[ST] QUOTE (TBeck @ May 16 2006, 21:57) BTW: W... May 17 2006, 05:58
Destroid I agree the speed aspect is a Yalac specialty.
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