Nero Releases FREE Reference Quality MPEG-4 Audio Encoder, Nero Releases Command Line MPEG-4 & 3GPP AAC Solution |
Nero Releases FREE Reference Quality MPEG-4 Audio Encoder, Nero Releases Command Line MPEG-4 & 3GPP AAC Solution |
May 4 2006, 15:13
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Nero MPEG4 developer Group: Developer Posts: 1466 Joined: 22-September 01 Member No.: 8 |
I am pleased to announce the launch of FREE Reference Quality MPEG-4 Audio solution from Nero, in the command line form!
* First in the world FREE 2-Pass MPEG-4 AAC Encoder * Support for mono, stereo and multichannel encodings * Support for sampling rates up to 96 kHz, up to 32-bit Floating-Point PCM input * Compression Ratios ranging from ultra high (58 CDs fit on one!) to High-End Audio (2.5:1), for absolutely perfect audiophile encodings * Support for Embedded Album Art (Covers, Booklets, Lyrics!) * Store Entire Audio Album in a Single .mp4 File with all the Features of an Audio CD embedded inside, but at a fraction of the space! * Reference Quality MPEG-4 Audio Codec * Fully Compatible with the Latest Version of the State-of-the-art MPEG-4 Audio Standard (LC-AAC, HE-AAC and HE-AAC v2) http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Nero_Digital_Audio.html This post has been edited by Garf: May 7 2006, 19:46 |
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May 4 2006, 21:58
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I'd say 2 pass audio encoding is a bit ridiculous, both from a time perspective (taking twice as long) and from a quality perspective (how good do you think your ears really are, anyway?). Just seems like the same old situation I commented about here at HA a few years ago: "When is it really good enough?" If you want that kind of quality, lossless is the way to go for most people.
As for the time it takes to encode from some format to another, it's not two steps, it's three formats unless you're encoding directly from a WAV file: 1) The original source file (stuff like mp3, flac, alac, ogg, etc). 2) The in-between data file (temporary) created when the source file (#1) is converted to WAV format since almost all encoders require WAV files to work with to encode. 3) The output format of your choice. So when reading the data from media like a DVD or wherever, the data is read, decoded to WAV (directly into RAM would be the best possible method for speed but I think the temporary files are still hitting the hard drive), then the encoding phase starts. It would be nice if it were possible to just transcode directly from one format to another, but unless the source is a real WAV file, it's always 3 parts. bb -------------------- The difference between genius and stupidity?
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May 4 2006, 22:08
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 26-March 06 From: Edmonton, Canada Member No.: 28860 |
I'd say 2 pass audio encoding is a bit ridiculous, both from a time perspective (taking twice as long) and from a quality perspective (how good do you think your ears really are, anyway?). Just seems like the same old situation I commented about here at HA a few years ago: "When is it really good enough?" If you want that kind of quality, lossless is the way to go for most people. As for the time it takes to encode from some format to another, it's not two steps, it's three formats unless you're encoding directly from a WAV file: 1) The original source file (stuff like mp3, flac, alac, ogg, etc). 2) The in-between data file (temporary) created when the source file (#1) is converted to WAV format since almost all encoders require WAV files to work with to encode. 3) The output format of your choice. So when reading the data from media like a DVD or wherever, the data is read, decoded to WAV (directly into RAM would be the best possible method for speed but I think the temporary files are still hitting the hard drive), then the encoding phase starts. It would be nice if it were possible to just transcode directly from one format to another, but unless the source is a real WAV file, it's always 3 parts. bb Thanks for that bb. Although my ears are quite sensitive when it comes to audio. I'm sure thousands have said it before and, of course, it's completely relative. I do see the point in staying away from 2-pass now though, so thanks again. As for my ears, take a listen to "Going Under" by Evanescence. At around 0:15 into the song there's a pop as Amy's saying "bleeding." I noticed that when I first heard the CD and it drove me so mad that I actually found the sample in the WAV of the song (there was quite the spike in the sine wave) and smoothed it out, which goes quite against a purist's best interests, I know. Most listeners don't pay attention, but I actually listen to my music. It's maddening actually. You have no idea how hard it was for me to break down and use lossy codecs. Alas, for convenience certain sacrifices need to be made. I'm crazy, I know. This post has been edited by ozmosis82: May 4 2006, 22:11 |
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Ivan Dimkovic Nero Releases FREE Reference Quality MPEG-4 Audio Encoder May 4 2006, 15:13
sony666 first
thanks and wow
checking out
edit: fir... May 4 2006, 15:15
yulyo! thank You Ivan.
i do not know how to work with com... May 4 2006, 15:22
towolf QUOTE (yulyo! @ May 4 2006, 04:22 PM)... May 4 2006, 15:34
sony666 it crashes whatever I throw at it after showing th... May 4 2006, 15:26
Ivan Dimkovic QUOTE edit: first run without comandline parameter... May 4 2006, 15:27
sony666 QUOTE (Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 04:27 ... May 4 2006, 15:29
Ivan Dimkovic Okay thanks for the info - our team will investiga... May 4 2006, 15:33
Ivan Dimkovic Linux is actually on the way May 4 2006, 15:44
sony666 This is a fantastic release and could be the one f... May 4 2006, 15:51
kurtnoise Many thanks to the Nero devs...Great stuff btw.
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Garf QUOTE (kurtnoise @ May 4 2006, 04:52 PM) ... May 4 2006, 17:28
kurtnoise QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 06:28 PM) QUOTE... May 4 2006, 17:50
halb27 Just tried.
It didn't crash, but it doesn... May 4 2006, 16:00
Pasqui QUOTE (halb27 @ May 4 2006, 05:00 PM) Jus... May 4 2006, 16:56
Garf QUOTE (Pasqui @ May 4 2006, 05:56 PM) QUO... May 4 2006, 17:23
toology This looks really promising!
Will this impleme... May 4 2006, 16:01
Garf QUOTE (toology @ May 4 2006, 05:01 PM) Th... May 4 2006, 17:39
enry2k It is wonderful gift! May 4 2006, 16:08
Leo 69 Can't encode on Athlon XP here. I see an error May 4 2006, 16:15
sizetwo Yay
Will check it out right away.
Sounds promi... May 4 2006, 16:19
Synthetic Soul Erroring here as well; it hangs for a while and th... May 4 2006, 16:43
ozmosis82 Hurrah Ivan!
I'm definitely excited about... May 4 2006, 17:09
jimhaddon works great with mine!
P4 @ 4.2Ghz, XP Pro
Q... May 4 2006, 17:13
Leo 69 Pasqui
QUOTE afaik, SS2 is supported
No, it isn... May 4 2006, 17:20
Squeller I've got some problems with the command line f... May 4 2006, 17:27
jimhaddon QUOTE (Squeller @ May 4 2006, 05:27 PM) 1... May 4 2006, 17:36
Julien QUOTE (Squeller @ May 4 2006, 06:27 PM) I... May 4 2006, 17:41

Garf QUOTE (Julien @ May 4 2006, 06:41 PM) QUO... May 4 2006, 17:44


Julien QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 06:44 PM) QUOTE... May 4 2006, 17:54


rosshmusic QUOTE QUOTE
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I'm using "-q 0.6 -if... May 4 2006, 18:29

Squeller QUOTE (Julien @ May 4 2006, 08:41 AM) I... May 4 2006, 17:50
Garf QUOTE (Squeller @ May 4 2006, 06:27 PM) P... May 4 2006, 18:02

edekba QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 10:02 AM) QUOTE... May 4 2006, 18:17

haregoo QUOTE (edekba @ May 5 2006, 02:17 AM) I... May 4 2006, 18:20


edekba QUOTE (haregoo @ May 4 2006, 10:20 AM) QU... May 4 2006, 18:26


Garf QUOTE (edekba @ May 4 2006, 07:26 PM) QUO... May 4 2006, 18:38

Garf QUOTE I guess that means users should try out diff... May 4 2006, 18:22
Sebastian Mares QUOTE (Squeller @ May 4 2006, 06:27 PM) 1... May 4 2006, 18:06
Dzamburu I aslo don't have sse2 instruction and get sam... May 4 2006, 17:34
goodnews How about adding an option to the AAC Encoder util... May 4 2006, 17:41
Garf QUOTE (goodnews @ May 4 2006, 06:41 PM) H... May 4 2006, 17:43
ozmosis82 QUOTE (jimhaddon @ May 4 2006, 11:13 AM) ... May 4 2006, 17:35
Digga thank you developers!
this is a nice and muc... May 4 2006, 17:40
Garf Note that the encoder accepts data from standard i... May 4 2006, 17:41
ozmosis82 QUOTE (jimhaddon @ May 4 2006, 11:36 AM) ... May 4 2006, 17:43
ozmosis82 QUOTE (goodnews @ May 4 2006, 11:41 AM) H... May 4 2006, 17:45
jmartis It will encode on my computer but doesnt write hea... May 4 2006, 18:11
Garf QUOTE (jmartis @ May 4 2006, 07:11 PM) It... May 4 2006, 18:14
jmartis QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 07:14 PM) QUOTE... May 4 2006, 18:22
Dzamburu what is minimum bitrate for 5.1 encoding May 4 2006, 18:19
AtaqueEG QUOTE (Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 09:13 ... May 4 2006, 18:53
Garf QUOTE Can't download. Any mirrors?
The server... May 4 2006, 18:58
AtaqueEG QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 12:58 PM) The s... May 4 2006, 19:16
Garf QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ May 4 2006, 08:16 PM) Q... May 4 2006, 19:41
AtaqueEG QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 01:41 PM) http:... May 4 2006, 19:44
halb27 QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ May 4 2006, 08:44 PM) .... May 4 2006, 21:06
ozmosis82 QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 12:22 PM) You c... May 4 2006, 19:01
edekba QUOTE (ozmosis82 @ May 4 2006, 11:01 AM) ... May 4 2006, 21:31
ozmosis82 QUOTE (edekba @ May 4 2006, 03:31 PM) yea... May 4 2006, 21:35
edekba QUOTE (ozmosis82 @ May 4 2006, 01:35 PM) ... May 4 2006, 21:44
ozmosis82 QUOTE (edekba @ May 4 2006, 03:44 PM) i d... May 4 2006, 21:47
ssjkakaroto i've have waited a long time for the aac encod... May 4 2006, 19:13
MuncherOfSpleens I'm assuming that the -q setting is to be used... May 4 2006, 19:19
Garf QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ May 4 2006, 08... May 4 2006, 19:24
senab Great stuff lads.
Been needing a good quality gap... May 4 2006, 19:45
brumal Works wonderfully on my P4. Many thanks to the Ner... May 4 2006, 19:56
Niphlod perhaps bittorrent sources will resolve the proble... May 4 2006, 20:14
MuncherOfSpleens QUOTE (Niphlod @ May 4 2006, 03:14 PM) pe... May 4 2006, 20:56
MuncherOfSpleens Sorry. I didn't know it was illegal. I'l... May 4 2006, 21:05
br0adband Thanks to Ivan and the whole Nero team for this re... May 4 2006, 20:47
Garf QUOTE (br0adband @ May 4 2006, 09:47 PM) ... May 4 2006, 20:59
Ivan Dimkovic AMD problem has been solved, but it will take unti... May 4 2006, 20:49
ozmosis82 QUOTE (br0adband @ May 4 2006, 02:47 PM) ... May 4 2006, 20:58
askoff Thanks Nero Audio team. This is a realy nice surpr... May 4 2006, 20:58
Ivan Dimkovic Actually, the bug was not AMD-related, but related... May 4 2006, 21:03
ozmosis82 Is there a change log for Nero's AAC encoder? ... May 4 2006, 21:05
Garf QUOTE (ozmosis82 @ May 4 2006, 10:05 PM) ... May 4 2006, 21:08
Ivan Dimkovic QUOTE Is there a change log for Nero's AAC enc... May 4 2006, 21:07
ozmosis82 QUOTE (Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 03:07 ... May 4 2006, 21:13
br0adband No idea why this is happening (just for me it seem... May 4 2006, 21:23
Garf QUOTE (br0adband @ May 4 2006, 10:23 PM) ... May 4 2006, 21:34
AlexanderTG If I encode my speak audio files with this, is it ... May 4 2006, 21:27
Garf QUOTE (AlexanderTG @ May 4 2006, 10:27 PM... May 4 2006, 21:31
IgorC It's good to have floating point bitrate. Now ... May 4 2006, 21:38
Garf QUOTE (IgorC @ May 4 2006, 10:38 PM) It... May 4 2006, 21:41
IgorC QUOTE (Garf @ May 4 2006, 12:41 PM) QUOTE... May 4 2006, 21:43
chichazor Any mirror to download it? The ftp6 url don't ... May 4 2006, 21:42
AtaqueEG QUOTE (chichazor @ May 4 2006, 03:42 PM) ... May 4 2006, 21:47
ozmosis82 To Garf or Ivan:
I guess I'm just looking to ... May 4 2006, 21:43
Garf QUOTE (ozmosis82 @ May 4 2006, 10:43 PM) ... May 4 2006, 22:06
Ivan Dimkovic QUOTE I guess I'm just looking to clarificatio... May 4 2006, 21:51
ozmosis82 QUOTE (Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 03:51 ... May 4 2006, 21:54
DARcode Thank you very much for making this available for ... May 4 2006, 21:52
Ivan Dimkovic QUOTE I'd say 2 pass audio encoding is a bit r... May 4 2006, 22:01
kwanbis Thanks for the gift. I would include the configura... May 4 2006, 22:44
br0adband No worries, didn't want my post to come across... May 4 2006, 22:47
chrisgeleven Is there any shot of this being available for us O... May 4 2006, 22:54![]() ![]() |
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