How did you find out about the whole encoding process?, Discovering EAC, Lame, Flac etc. |
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How did you find out about the whole encoding process?, Discovering EAC, Lame, Flac etc. |
Jun 2 2006, 15:11
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Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 16-October 05 Member No.: 25153 |
I remember the first time that i found out about ripping and encoding, it was about 4 years ago when i was using WMP8 to rip my cds into WMA 64 kbps (Cold so cold
So how did you start in the world of audio encoding. ConCave This post has been edited by ConCave: Jun 7 2006, 03:08 |
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Jun 2 2006, 15:19
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Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 11-March 06 Member No.: 28391 |
I remember recording some music onto a PC in about '96 and thinking "wow whis sounds great". The PC only had 8Mb RAM though and a 500MB hard drive so it was kinda limiting. No encoding at that time, just saving as WAV.
Then I tried it a bit more on my next PC (10Gb har drive) for which I bought CoolEdit 2000. Ripping all the tracks and then opening each one in the wave editor and saving as mp3 (fraunhofer encoder) 192K - sounded great but I did get some skips/jumps occasionally. I used to store them back onto CDR - hard drive not big enough to store anything extensively. My new PC has allowed me to rip my whole collection now and I'm a happy bunny! |
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Jun 2 2006, 15:38
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![]() Group: Super Moderator Posts: 4887 Joined: 12-August 04 From: Exeter, UK Member No.: 16217 |
I was using EAC before I became a regular here, and I had toyed with Monkey's Audio. I guess I must have come across various people recommending EAC (who knows, maybe it was earlier visits to HA) in order to switch from CDEx, which I used in the beginning. I don't know where I got Monkey's Audio from, but I remember wondering why I would want to encode tracks at such high filesizes when I had MP3. I played with it for a few hours, digged the monkey, and then forgot about it.
I was actually using the Radium/Fraunhofer codec at 128 CBR before I was turned to LAME soon after visting HA regularly. I had used LAME before, intermittently; most notably at work where the Radium codec might not be appreciated. I don't think I trusted VBR at the time, as it all seemed a bit "out on the edge". My first introduction to encoding was some Bill Hicks soundbytes I downloaded in the mid to late nineties. They were in an unknown MP2 format, which lead me to Winamp. I thought Winamp was mega. I soon started playing about with MP3 (LAME, Blade, Xing, L3Enc) and VQF, which was the successor to MP3... I don't ever remember having problems with pops or skipping, although obviously some poor quality given the list above. I became a regular here after discovering some of my CDs were deteriorating, and started looking at a good backup plan. I've waffled on about all this before. I had obviously visited HA a few times on my travels previously. I have no idea why I became a regular; I suppose it was because I posted and was in discussions, rather than just reading "archives". This post has been edited by Synthetic Soul: Jun 2 2006, 16:00 -------------------- I'm on a horse.
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Jun 2 2006, 15:51
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Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 16-October 05 Member No.: 25153 |
Ah! you just reminded me of the good old Xing encoder havent thought about that in a while is that still used today, havent even checked to see if RealPlayer still use it or not.
ConCave This post has been edited by ConCave: Jun 2 2006, 15:53 |
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Jun 2 2006, 16:05
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 30-September 01 From: C-ville, VA Member No.: 83 |
I started using CDEx with the --r3mix preset once I got to college, and I started encoding my own music for the first time. I later switched to EAC, however (and the --alt-presets).
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Jun 2 2006, 16:32
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Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 18-February 04 Member No.: 12104 |
At some point i ran into some strange files with the extension .mpc, later i learned what they were. My first ripper was eac secure mode(later on test© too) using mpc q7 or q8. Then i switched to flac. Later i switched to cdparanoia and made my own script to do the stuff i was missing from eac (like test©). All this started started a few(3-4 probably), when mppenc 1.14 was already out and used a lot (i think). So it was much later than most.
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Jun 2 2006, 17:54
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 2-October 04 Member No.: 17431 |
For me it all started when I got my 4G ipod in 2004. I was so into it and I found iLounge, which referenced HA and Exact Audio Copy. Since then I've been back and forth between AAC and mp3 -v2, -v5, etc. I finally settled on 128 pseudo variable AAC iTunes for portable use, FLAC on an external hardrive for home use.
This really is the greates website and I must check it at least 10X a day! -------------------- - FLAC/200GB external
- AAC 128 vbr/local - iPod Nano 2G 8GB |
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Jun 2 2006, 20:04
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1394 Joined: 20-December 01 From: seattle Member No.: 693 |
audiograbber ->
remix site/forums -> lame -> hydrogenaudio -> NOW ...i wouldn't be surprised if that was really common (back then) it seemed like a bunch of people (newbies, like me) came to HA with a bunch of funny ideas from roel... later -------------------- RareWares/Debian :: http://www.rarewares.org/debian.html
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Jun 2 2006, 22:20
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Group: Members Posts: 182 Joined: 4-July 02 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 2472 |
audiograbber -> remix site/forums -> lame -> hydrogenaudio -> NOW ...i wouldn't be surprised if that was really common (back then) it seemed like a bunch of people (newbies, like me) came to HA with a bunch of funny ideas from roel... later That's the exact same progression of how I got here. |
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Jun 2 2006, 22:49
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 474 Joined: 1-December 02 Member No.: 3940 |
LAME 3.93 VBR 160-256 with -k switch using AudioGrabber to rip.
Thanks to HA.org I switched to 3.90.2 APS and APFS->3.90.3 APS and APFS>Ogg Vorbis aoTuV 4.51 LE now using EAC to rip. -------------------- Ogg Vorbis for music and speech [q-2.0 - q6.0]
FLAC for recordings to be edited Speex for speech |
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Jun 2 2006, 23:11
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 933 Joined: 3-June 02 From: USA Member No.: 2204 |
I found out about ripping and encoding to a lossy format back in the Fall of 1998 using Iomega's zip disk software (IomegaWare) that had some crappy encoder, nonetheless I must credit it for my introduction into ripping and encoding music since I didn't know anything about it.
I think starting in 1999 (unsure) I found out about CDex and LAME and used that combination for a long time until I found the R3mix forums (no comments on that please). Then my education into secure ripping and proper encoding was put onto the correct path by reading threads and getting help from people like CiTay, and others whom I've unfortunately forgotten their usernames. I have to give allot of credit to CiTay for his help back in the day for setting me straight when I clearly didn't have a clue. -------------------- Complexity of incoherent design.
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Jun 2 2006, 23:53
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 1-February 06 From: Austria Member No.: 27471 |
My first ripping experiences must have been with musicmatch 2.x or something like that (they now have version 8 or even more.. hell knows..), well and i guess my first interest in encoders occured because of its inability to transcode wma to mp3.
My interest has grown over the past few years but i'm still a noob, just reading, learning and happy with EAC, flac and lame. |
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Jun 3 2006, 00:27
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 16-March 04 Member No.: 12758 |
For me it was Napster. I decided to install it one night and see what the fuss was all about. I started doing searches for tunes and kept finding them. I immediately had to find out how people were making these MP3 things.
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Jun 3 2006, 02:26
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![]() Group: Members (Donating) Posts: 782 Joined: 11-April 05 From: México Member No.: 21361 |
I started ripping/encoding with Nero about 5 years ago, then after some wondering about quality I googled some stuff about MP3, wich led me to some know-it-all ripping guide from some site I forgot, it mentioned Lame, EAC, Musepack and some other stuff. After searching around for info on those things the same site kept popping up, and that site was hydrogenaudio.org.
-------------------- we was young an' full of beans
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Jun 3 2006, 04:06
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Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 25526 |
I was using Winamp and played with the diskwriter it had a lot, often trying to use LAME in ACM mode to make some MP3 WAVs to send over AIM.
At some point I found one of the sites that distributed LAME binaries, and played with the various versions, reading the docs to find out new settings and stuff. And from there on, I came here some time later, and I'm now a foobar2000 lover. This post has been edited by Firon: Jun 3 2006, 04:07 |
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Jun 3 2006, 04:55
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Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 10785 |
I found CDex/Vorbis a long long time ago...but I don't think I started using EAC/Foobar2000 or got really picky about my audio till I found this site
I just browse around and soak up information I guess...that would explain my 2 1/2 years here but only 66 posts This post has been edited by rudefyet: Jun 3 2006, 04:57 |
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Jun 3 2006, 05:54
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1593 Joined: 24-March 02 From: Revere, MA Member No.: 1607 |
Started back in the day of Cdex 1.10. I knew about LAME and then I stumbled upon Vorbis in it's infancy (like the idea of an open-source codec). I thought the idea was ingenius and I was amazed at how you could achieve a compression ratio of more than 11x that of a regular PCM file on a CD and still achieve transparency
This post has been edited by HotshotGG: Jun 3 2006, 05:55 -------------------- College student/IT Assistant
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Jun 3 2006, 06:46
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 16-September 05 From: India Member No.: 24505 |
Started with CDex, went to Xing/ Audioripper (for speed, maan!). Went back to Cdex to rip to wav files and encoding using Radium's hack of the FhG encoder. Discovered Lame and r3mix preset, heard about HA.og. Visited here and been with EAC, Monkeys Audio (earlier) WavPack (current), and Lame (3.97b2 now) since then. It's been an eventful trip with frustration now and then, but being with the HA.org community has made it memorable
-------------------- Reason is immortal, all else mortal
- Pythagoras |
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Jun 4 2006, 10:12
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Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 5-September 05 Member No.: 24322 |
I think it started for me back in 1997 or 1998. I used AudioGrabber and Bladeenc (I think) in those days. Due to limited disk space, I used 128kbps (CBR). I remember that the encoding of a single file took about 20 minutes or more on my Pentium 120Mhz (overclocked to 133Mhz), so I would set up a batch to encode before going to bed.
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Jun 4 2006, 10:26
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 9-April 06 From: Czech Republic Member No.: 29311 |
For me it was Napster. I decided to install it one night and see what the fuss was all about. I started doing searches for tunes and kept finding them. I immediately had to find out how people were making these MP3 things. exactly like that, except it was with Kazaa J.M. This post has been edited by jmartis: Jun 4 2006, 10:27 |
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Jun 4 2006, 11:31
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Group: Members (Donating) Posts: 369 Joined: 28-June 02 From: South Australia, AUSTRALIA Member No.: 2421 |
I started encoding to MP3 using I think blade.dll and AudioGrabber, but had no idea what good settings were to use. All I knew was that 128 Kbps was good for downloading over modems, but didn't sound very good, but I didn't know what a better setting was.
I did some searching, and found a webpage for -r3mix. From there I found a link to HydrogenAudio. So I started using LAME 3.90.3 --alt-preset standard. Once I upgraded my computer witha 200 GB hard disc I started re-ripping everthing to FLAC. When I bought an iPod, I first transfered all my APS MP3 files over. But later transcoded by FLAC files to iTunes AAC, to save a bit of space. -------------------- www.petitiononline.com/RHCPWBCD/petition.html
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Jun 4 2006, 14:52
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Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Morelia, Mexico Member No.: 20386 |
Back in 1994 I used to use adpcm for storing some music, I had to record them with the soundcard 'cause there was no rip feature in the drives available by that time (2x).
Then around 1998 or 1999 I started to fool around with the fraunhofer command line encoder. After years of doing my mp3s that way I switched to CDex and until last year I switched again to EAC. This post has been edited by legg: Jun 4 2006, 14:52 -------------------- Home page: http://lc.fie.umich.mx/~legg/indexen.php
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Jun 5 2006, 07:54
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 648 Joined: 10-January 06 From: Zagreb Member No.: 27018 |
First software I used for extracting were WinDAC for ripping and Audioactive Studio for encoding, some time in 1997. I was so into WinDAC for years, it worked for me, it had this rereading mode that helped with some CDs... but as time went, I switched from warez
Occasionally tried ogg, and for lossless I use either FLAC or APE, depending on what's currently available. Ivan. |
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Jun 5 2006, 16:57
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Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Morelia, Mexico Member No.: 20386 |
of course, how could I forget about windac!!
*ahh the nostalgy -------------------- Home page: http://lc.fie.umich.mx/~legg/indexen.php
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Jun 5 2006, 20:40
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 15-April 06 From: Knoxville, TN Member No.: 29582 |
I remember ripping my whole CD collection and being so excited that I had an "exact" copy of all my CDs on the computer! (96kpbs WMA haha)
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