:-( MP3 destroys Surround Sound encoding |
:-( MP3 destroys Surround Sound encoding |
Dec 3 2002, 00:18
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Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 30-November 02 Member No.: 3930 |
I've been experimenting with MP3 and converting my CDs to MP3-320 compressed files. Unfortunately, I've discovered that the MP3 encoding process destroys the Rear Channel Sound. In a few cases I can still hear music in the rear, but for most songs the rear speaker just produces garbage sound... rather disappointing compared to the rich sound produced from the original CD!
I suppose MP3 considers the rear channel information to be "inaudible" which it would be in a standard 2-speaker stereo arrangement, but the addition of the rear speaker makes these types of sounds *very* audible. It's basically an echo effect that is audible when listening to the CD and places the listener *inside* the music, but sadly lacking on the MP3 rip. The stripping of that rear channel echo dramatically diminishes the experience. Troy P.S. I'm using CDex for ripping and LAME for encoding with the following settings: q=0;Very High Quality, Stereo, 320kbps. |
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Dec 20 2002, 03:36
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Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 28-October 02 From: London, UK Member No.: 3644 |
Hi Mgz
This is (unfortunately) not a hardware malfunction. Dolby Pro-logic was developed as a mechanism for encoding a front center and surround channel into a standard stereo stream (i.e. four channels from a standard two-channel stereo stream.) The mechanism relies heavily on stereo imaging (as described here and here.) The same effect (sound from the center and surround channels) may occur on non-DPL tracks if there are sufficiently out-of-phase stereo sounds, such as heavy reverb or recording the audience in stereo on live shows. Lossy encoders tend to sacrifice stereo information at lower bitrates, since this leaves more bandwidth for removing more apparent artifacts. Any deviation from the original recording could result in unusual sounds from the center and surround channels. DPL and DPL-II are discribed in-depth on the Dolby Web Site. |
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theaveng :-( MP3 destroys Surround Sound encoding Dec 3 2002, 00:18
tangent Rear channel information is not inaudible in a sta... Dec 3 2002, 04:06
LordSyl QUOTE (theaveng @ Dec 2 2002 - 03:18 PM)P.S.... Dec 3 2002, 23:14
kritip Judging by your tending to high bitrate values, i ... Dec 3 2002, 23:27
_Shorty the mp3 file itself is fine, the problem lies else... Dec 4 2002, 00:06
atom Hi TheAveng
I've actually done a fair amount ... Dec 4 2002, 12:11
Gabriel Interesting thing is that on Doom9 forum, there se... Dec 4 2002, 13:44
kennedyb4 My DVD rips are all encoded with alt ABR 128 and t... Dec 4 2002, 14:04
lucpes QUOTE (kennedyb4 @ Dec 4 2002 - 01:04 PM)My D... Dec 4 2002, 15:19
Kblood QUOTE Take a DVD with live music performance, with... Dec 4 2002, 15:21
kennedyb4 For a music specific video, I normally take the 2.... Dec 4 2002, 18:30
atom The surround info is usually maintained to some de... Dec 5 2002, 15:52
plonk420 QUOTE (kennedyb4 @ Dec 4 2002 - 06:04 AM)My D... Dec 5 2002, 16:26
Benjamin Lebsanft you don't need -ms for surround, mj is just fi... Dec 5 2002, 17:03
atom QUOTE (Benjamin Lebsanft @ Dec 5 2002 - 08:03... Dec 17 2002, 11:11
Mgz I thinks it's a hardware problem.....
MP3 is... Dec 19 2002, 03:24
Mgz QUOTE (atom @ Dec 19 2002 - 06:36 PM)Hi Mgz
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