WOW, Monkey's Audio is still the best, Ya better believe it |
WOW, Monkey's Audio is still the best, Ya better believe it |
Sep 22 2006, 23:35
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I did a comparison between Flac, Wavpack, and Monkey's Audio. I'm a longtime MAC user, but I've been considering replacing it with something else.
Monkey's Audio still has the smallest file sizes, and the fastest compression. On a test sample, the FLAC file was around 53 MB, the Wavpack was 51, and the Monkey's Audio was 47. Additionally, the monkey's audio on a whole encoded at a faster rate. Yes, I know that FLAC and Wavpack have features that MAC doesn't, most noticably lossy and better seeking. However, I use lossless only for archival purposes-- I rarely actually listen to the files, and so, I have to say that monkey's audio is still the best |
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Sep 24 2006, 15:19
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Just transcode one reference file into FLAC format
EDIT: EDIT2: --no-padding doesn't give the expected result either... I should "corrupt" the file in another position. This post has been edited by guruboolez: Sep 24 2006, 15:27 |
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adlai WOW, Monkey's Audio is still the best Sep 22 2006, 23:35
pest QUOTE that monkey's audio is still the best
... Sep 22 2006, 23:44
HbG I'm not so sure about the fastest. Flake is a ... Sep 22 2006, 23:48
Shade[ST] And wait until you try out TAK (Yalac) Sep 23 2006, 01:01
kanak Totally agree with shade. i'm so excited by th... Sep 23 2006, 04:07
Mangix OptimFROG should be able to compress better than M... Sep 23 2006, 04:13
LANjackal QUOTE (adlai @ Sep 22 2006, 18:35) Yes, I... Sep 23 2006, 06:48
Duble0Syx QUOTE (LANjackal @ Sep 22 2006, 21:48) QU... Sep 23 2006, 07:38
halb27 When I did lossless archiving I was very happy wit... Sep 23 2006, 09:43
evereux Here's some informative links on Lossless code... Sep 23 2006, 09:44
halb27 QUOTE (evereux @ Sep 23 2006, 10:44) Here... Sep 23 2006, 10:03
guruboolez QUOTE (adlai @ Sep 23 2006, 00:35) Monkey... Sep 23 2006, 09:57
Leo 69 QUOTE Error handling (decoding after media corrupt... Sep 23 2006, 10:09
seanyseansean QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 23 2006, 10:09) QUOTE... Sep 23 2006, 10:21
guruboolez QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 23 2006, 11:09) QUOTE... Sep 23 2006, 10:32
spoon >c4000/5000 profiles only files are usually suf... Sep 23 2006, 11:05
rjamorim QUOTE (spoon @ Sep 23 2006, 07:05) The wh... Sep 23 2006, 17:35
greynol QUOTE (rjamorim @ Sep 23 2006, 09:35) Nop... Sep 23 2006, 18:00
Steve J. QUOTE (rjamorim @ Sep 23 2006, 11:35) QUO... May 2 2007, 19:30
kanak QUOTE (Steve J. @ May 2 2007, 13:30) QUOT... May 2 2007, 20:04
Keykey QUOTE (Steve J. @ May 2 2007, 20:30) Anyo... May 2 2007, 21:24
guruboolez I got completely different results with FLAC/WavPa... Sep 23 2006, 11:23
greynol QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 23 2006, 03:23) I... Sep 23 2006, 17:27
askoff MAC doesn't seem to be available for Linux or ... Sep 23 2006, 13:06
guruboolez Monkey's code is avaible since 2003 or 2004. L... Sep 23 2006, 13:09
IgorC Well. Monkey is 5% more efficient than FLAC SVN 20... Sep 23 2006, 14:44
MedO QUOTE (IgorC @ Sep 23 2006, 15:44) Well. ... Sep 23 2006, 15:23
askoff I see. I haven't seen that before. Well I have... Sep 23 2006, 14:40
LoFiYo If you are worried about the filesize only, LA may... Sep 23 2006, 16:51
shadowking Yeah, way too paranoid - unless you sold your CD... Sep 23 2006, 18:14
greynol Some people are under the assumption that it is im... Sep 23 2006, 18:18
guruboolez Decoding is possible but the loss is more importan... Sep 23 2006, 18:41
greynol I know what you said, guruboolez; and in light of ... Sep 23 2006, 18:51
guruboolez QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 19:51) I kn... Sep 23 2006, 19:06
greynol You are talking in shades of gray. That portion o... Sep 23 2006, 19:47
guruboolez QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 20:47) No m... Sep 23 2006, 20:03
greynol QUOTE Is "BS FUD" a simple synonymous of... Sep 23 2006, 20:24
sld QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 24 2006, 03:24) We... Sep 23 2006, 23:04
Digisurfer QUOTE (sld @ Sep 23 2006, 16:04) In the s... Sep 26 2006, 04:08
guruboolez QUOTE (Digisurfer @ Sep 26 2006, 05:08) F... Sep 26 2006, 06:36
Digisurfer I've been using Monkey's Audio for close t... Sep 23 2006, 21:09
greynol Do you honestly want me to start citing all the un... Sep 24 2006, 00:46
beto QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 20:46) Now,... Sep 24 2006, 14:09
Duble0Syx I think the whole point of this topic is basically... Sep 24 2006, 01:17
greynol Barring how one would subjectively weight certain ... Sep 24 2006, 01:55
jido QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 16:55) I am... Sep 24 2006, 12:02
Destroid MAC is still the best lossless codec (that I can r... Sep 24 2006, 03:33
guruboolez I've just checked MAC 4.01 latest build error ... Sep 24 2006, 14:20
TBeck QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 24 2006, 15:20) R... Sep 24 2006, 14:48
guruboolez Hmmm... I forgot to mention that I tried with MAC.... Sep 24 2006, 14:56
spoon I would like to see the test with FLAC as well.
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Fandango Interestingly this is what the "File Integrit... Sep 24 2006, 15:22
haregoo It seems that FB2K's wv decoder can't dete... Sep 24 2006, 16:11
guruboolez I just tried with FLAC. Due to what seems to be a ... Sep 24 2006, 15:45
Fandango QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 24 2006, 16:45) E... Sep 24 2006, 16:18
greynol I tried the MAC sample and verified the results.
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TBeck QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 24 2006, 20:16) To m... Sep 24 2006, 19:31

pest The reason why Monkey uses large frames (up to 4s ... Sep 24 2006, 19:47
guruboolez QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 24 2006, 20:16) To m... Sep 24 2006, 19:53
greynol QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 24 2006, 11:53) ... Sep 25 2006, 07:06
guruboolez QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 25 2006, 08:06) I do... Sep 25 2006, 17:02
Leo 69 guruboolez, how would your experiment with manuall... Sep 24 2006, 20:01
guruboolez QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 24 2006, 21:01) gurub... Sep 24 2006, 20:16
spoon In real life if you get a bad hard drive you will ... Sep 24 2006, 20:29
guruboolez QUOTE (spoon @ Sep 24 2006, 21:29) In rea... Sep 24 2006, 20:37
Leo 69 Well, the reasons for avoiding Monkey's audio ... Sep 24 2006, 21:38
guruboolez QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 24 2006, 22:38) Well,... Sep 24 2006, 21:49
bryant There are a few things I'd like to add to this... Sep 24 2006, 22:58
pest QUOTE Also, WavPack currently has a CRC in each bl... Sep 24 2006, 23:28
TBeck QUOTE (bryant @ Sep 24 2006, 23:58) This ... Sep 24 2006, 23:35
adlai You know, now that you speak of it...
Last year,... Sep 25 2006, 01:18
CyberFoxx Just thought I'd toss in my $0.02CDN.
Mo... Sep 25 2006, 02:31
jcoalson one more note is that a thorough test should also ... Sep 25 2006, 06:55
spoon >One worth mentioning here is that it keeps a m... Sep 25 2006, 08:16
greynol Yes, I made a blanket statement that MAC could be ... Sep 25 2006, 18:00
guruboolez QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 25 2006, 19:00) My p... Sep 25 2006, 18:52
greynol QUOTE Don't forget that there's no compara... Sep 25 2006, 19:15
guruboolez QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 25 2006, 20:15) I gu... Sep 25 2006, 19:22
greynol I remember looking at it when it first appeared an... Sep 25 2006, 19:26
Maglor Hi all! I've been reading a lot of posts l... Mar 24 2007, 14:31
Agrajag Guys, glad to see this being discussed.
I have ab... Mar 28 2007, 06:33
jcoalson QUOTE (Agrajag @ Mar 28 2007, 00:33) Do I... Mar 28 2007, 16:25
Agrajag QUOTE (jcoalson @ Mar 28 2007, 07:25) wha... Mar 28 2007, 19:22
halb27 Practical considerations are the most of concern, ... Mar 28 2007, 11:51
jcoalson compare http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#har... Mar 28 2007, 22:03
Agrajag QUOTE (jcoalson @ Mar 28 2007, 13:03) com... Mar 29 2007, 23:36
jcoalson QUOTE (Agrajag @ Mar 29 2007, 17:36) Uh, ... Mar 30 2007, 00:25
Øyvin Eikeland Hi,
I'm one of the guys to blame for the lacki... Apr 12 2007, 09:04
rt87 Every codec have different adventages when compari... Apr 25 2007, 09:05
heiger the smaller the best ???? May 1 2007, 19:22
MisterMeow Monkey Audio is great! I love the *.ape exten... May 2 2007, 13:36
shadowking Well I've decided that the small gains in comp... May 2 2007, 14:17
greynol OptimFROG? It ought to be called OptimTURTLE.
I... May 2 2007, 16:04
[JAZ] QUOTE (greynol @ May 2 2007, 16:04) I tra... May 2 2007, 18:48
greynol QUOTE ' date='May 2 2007, 10:48' post=... May 3 2007, 02:35
TBeck QUOTE (greynol @ May 3 2007, 02:35) Not j... May 3 2007, 02:43
pepoluan I have been an OptimFROG lover... but yes I teeth ... May 2 2007, 17:31
kanak QUOTE (pepoluan @ May 2 2007, 11:31) I ha... May 2 2007, 19:24
shadowking Classical music comparison.
TAK P2e 'normal... May 3 2007, 07:59![]() ![]() |
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