How high can you hear (with music & lowpass), ABX required |
How high can you hear (with music & lowpass), ABX required |
Dec 16 2002, 12:26
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I've uploaded some test samples at http://www.kikeg.arrakis.es/lowpass in order to test how high can people hear with a clip of 'special' but real (pop) music.
These clips have a very strong high-frequency impulsive peak, at the frequency specified for every sample, and there is a lowpassed clip for each one with just that frequencies an above removed. All clips are resampled versions of the same clip, (where the strong peak is originally at 16300 KHz) , so that for every sample the peak is at a different frequency. In order to know if you can hear the strong impulsive peak for every sample, you must be able to ABX the test sample against the lowpassed version of it. ABX is required in order to have meaningful results. I have available just the clips shown here because I have no more space in my web page. The 12 KHz clip should be easily ABXable for nearly anyone, specially if they are not very old. On casual listening (without concentrating) and using good soundcard & headphones (Audiophile 2496, Sennheiser HD 580) I can hear a difference on the lowpassed 17.5 KHz clip. Concentrating I could ABX the 18 KHz file, with results of 12/14 (p=0.6 %). This should be a more realistic test of how high can people hear in extreme cases of somewhat 'real' music. This post has been edited by KikeG: Dec 16 2002, 16:42 |
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Dec 16 2002, 13:48
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To me this is even funny.. The difference is SO VERY obvious to me with all the samples except the 20khz one. ABX'd in seconds 8/8 each time. With the 20khz one though it's harder, but 10/10. The major difference is noticable in the ringing sound. It's easy for me, ah i feel good now, thanks for this test KikeG
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KikeG How high can you hear (with music & lowpass) Dec 16 2002, 12:26
daniel :'( :'( 14khz abx:12/12
Will rest my ears... Dec 16 2002, 14:36
caligae QUOTE (KikeG @ Dec 16 2002 - 01:26 PM)This sh... Dec 16 2002, 14:52
KikeG @caligae:
I have used resampling simply to genera... Dec 16 2002, 16:04
KikeG @SK1
Man, you have bat ears. If anyone could host... Dec 16 2002, 16:16
Pio2001 Same as with the sweep tone, resampling in most so... Dec 16 2002, 17:34
ErikS 18.5 (4/4 ABA)
I was surprised... 16-17 kHz lowpa... Dec 16 2002, 17:35
SK1 I don't think i have bat ears . I'm 19.5, ... Dec 16 2002, 17:54
caligae QUOTE (KikeG @ Dec 16 2002 - 05:04 PM)Also, I... Dec 16 2002, 19:48
SometimesWarrior QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Dec 16 2002 - 08:34 AM)Same ... Dec 17 2002, 00:15
Pio2001 The problem might be the same at 48 kHz. Someone w... Dec 17 2002, 00:46
rehgf One of those waiting for a (good) 48 kHz version i... Dec 17 2002, 01:02
Mac Ugh, the polling software confused me! I clic... Dec 17 2002, 01:28
mithrandir The 17KHz lowpass file sounds the same as the ... Dec 17 2002, 02:54
JohnV QUOTE (Mac @ Dec 17 2002 - 02:28 AM)Ugh, the ... Dec 17 2002, 03:52
KikeG Uploading 48 KHz files, old files not available at... Dec 17 2002, 09:16
SometimesWarrior QUOTE (JohnV @ Dec 16 2002 - 06:52 PM)QUOTE (... Dec 17 2002, 10:25
daniel Yesterday I couldnt distinguish 16khz lowpass. Heh... Dec 17 2002, 10:51
KikeG I've finished uploading the files resampled to... Dec 17 2002, 16:58
ff123 QUOTE (KikeG @ Dec 17 2002 - 07:58 AM)I'v... Dec 17 2002, 17:10
Q! 18kHz
Funny, I can abx the 18kHz lowpassed easil... Dec 17 2002, 18:13
SK1 Hi again.
Well, i tried and i tried .
I can hear t... Dec 17 2002, 20:20
Mr. Superbad I had to focus on the area from about 1-2 seconds.... Dec 17 2002, 22:16
CRasch I did a hearing test and I could hear past the 20k... Dec 17 2002, 22:21
Mac I found the same. 17khz sounded clearly different... Dec 17 2002, 22:44
RIV@NVX What means to ABX a file?
How to do it? Dec 18 2002, 22:59
SK1 Use a program, like WinABX (by KikeG, starter of t... Dec 18 2002, 23:01
RIV@NVX QUOTE (SK1 @ Dec 18 2002 - 02:01 PM)Use a pro... Dec 18 2002, 23:16
KikeG ABX is a method of testing audible differences, it... Dec 19 2002, 09:03
zerobyte the problem is not hearing a 20k or 18k signal, it... Dec 19 2002, 14:49
KikeG You're right, but many people can hear 18 KHz ... Dec 19 2002, 16:04
KikeG I'm seeing in the pool that some people can su... Dec 19 2002, 16:17
SK1 Hello. I've decided to provide the accurate re... Dec 19 2002, 16:56
KikeG @SK1: my previous post was aimed to the other peop... Dec 20 2002, 08:58
SK1 Yeah i thought so, but felt that anyway it would b... Dec 20 2002, 14:05
Bedeox Yep, ABXed this lately, and it seems I'm able
... Dec 21 2002, 13:42
RIV@NVX I can hear 17-18 Khz (using ABX 0.23).
Will do mor... Dec 21 2002, 17:10
TJA Wow, iīm impressed!
Either that samples are b... Mar 3 2003, 22:05
ger@co I'm impressed too. Impressed by the fact that... Mar 3 2003, 22:33
TJA Hi Ger@co,
to be honest, i donīt understand your c... Mar 3 2003, 23:12
KikeG TJA, I think indeed this test is quite useful no m... Mar 4 2003, 10:04
TJA QUOTE (KikeG @ Mar 4 2003 - 11:04 AM)QUOTE
A... Mar 4 2003, 18:53
DonP VERY interesting test! The first sample I tri... Mar 4 2003, 21:32
KikeG QUOTE (TJA @ Mar 4 2003 - 06:53 PM)Comment: F... Mar 5 2003, 12:08
KikeG QUOTE (DonP @ Mar 4 2003 - 09:32 PM)I didn... Mar 5 2003, 12:13
tigre QUOTE (KikeG @ Mar 5 2003 - 03:13 AM)One way ... Mar 5 2003, 12:46
KikeG QUOTE (tigre @ Mar 5 2003 - 12:46 PM)Another ... Mar 5 2003, 12:51
DonP QUOTE (KikeG @ Mar 5 2003 - 03:13 AM)Interest... Mar 5 2003, 14:08
KikeG QUOTE (DonP @ Mar 5 2003 - 02:08 PM)Is it pos... Mar 5 2003, 14:41
TJA I tried the 19 kHz samples again and is was sooo e... Mar 6 2003, 03:51
CiTay QUOTE (TJA @ Mar 6 2003 - 03:51 AM)But i have... Mar 6 2003, 13:51
GeSomeone QUOTE (CiTay @ Mar 6 2003 - 01:51 PM)QUOTE (T... Mar 6 2003, 14:04
DonP QUOTE (TJA @ Mar 5 2003 - 09:51 PM)About high... Mar 6 2003, 14:32
CiTay QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Mar 6 2003 - 02:04 PM)I wo... Mar 6 2003, 14:40
CiTay By the way: 15.75 KHz tones are present on many (e... Mar 6 2003, 14:49
TJA Hello together,
when thatīs not even 16 kHz, it i... Mar 6 2003, 17:22
TJA Hi!
Thanx to Kikeg for those 19.5 and 20.5 sa... Mar 11 2003, 14:23
TJA Update:
No way to hear the 21kHz lowpass
But 20.5... Mar 13 2003, 09:56
KikeG Still, take the results with a grain of salt, beca... Mar 13 2003, 11:22
masterofimages A very interesting test. First time I've ABXed... Mar 17 2003, 23:51![]() ![]() |
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